Black and mad

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I'm mad. Let me qualify that - I'm black and mad. The mad I'm talking about I inherited from generations of black people before me.

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Sep 15, 2012
 
anger = motivation

all who are awake in amerikkka under the abuses of that racist hobama should be angry

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<quoted text>Well, if you HAVE to know, I am 6'1", 215lbs and 12% body fat. Yeah, I work out alot. I don't eat cheesesteaks, pizza and rarely have a beer. I crave Pa softpretzels but don't ever eat em. I do have a lovely GF and a bitch of an ex wife. Insecure? Now that's where you are wrong. I am a go getter and don't give a sheeeit about anyone. I own a $500,000 a year distribution business where the mark-up is 900%. I have 4 homes, one in Ponte Vedra Beach (Jacksonville Fla) and a new 3200 SF masterpiece in suburban Portland, Or. I did NOT complete college, but have a 148 IQ. Tested and confirmed. I skipped college to start making money, ya know, crawling all over people to get to the top. I got to the top of one industry, sold the business after 20 years and am doing the same in a different even more profitable industry where I hope to sell for about $10 million in 2-3 years. I have 2 lovely children and pay more in alimony and support than you make in a year. Am I mad? Yeah, kinda, I don't mind support but alimony to a woman who is a professional herself is a bit much but oh well. At no time did I say I was an Obama support, must have been Frack. I gew up a Baltimore Colts fan and loved Bert Jones. My heart was ripped out in 84' when they moved and nowe LOVE the Ravens. I went to nearly every O's home opener from the mid 70's until I moved out here in 2000. Mhy question is, why do you care so much and why the analysis? I usued this line once, and I'll use it again. The rent is due. You've lived in my shadow long enough Cesar.
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#12907
Jul 24, 2013
 
Time to get some of the topics with more than 5 posts on top.
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#12908
Jul 25, 2013
 
yea me too !

I don't understand how black can kill so many other blacks.

that is racial profiling at its best.

blacks don't complain about high black on black crime rates lame schools, poor housing, no shopping in the hood. don't mumble a thing when a black baby get killed by black morons with gun on drug deals gone bad on the south side of da hood.

but they complain about one silly negro kid acting like a fool then shot dead in Florida??

read the black kids history in florida he was trouble with a capitol T.

that black baby killing should have had you marching in the streets demanding justice demanding drug dealers be shot.

but blacks got it all ass backwards again... too many years of voting democrat and taking them welfare checks got their brains all shriveled up
they can't even think straight.....

no wonder so many blacks get killed by other blacks in da city and the morons don't even see its racial profiling at its worst.

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It's not profiling. Look at the numbers.. The blacks will just be assimilated. Blacks make up only 12% of the population. They commit most of their crimes against themselves. The black woman will have to turn to Hispanic and white men to fulfill their desires. Thereby having mixed babies. Those mixed babies will have babies with other non-blacks. The population of blacks in this country will continue to decline. It's just a theory, but I am ENTITLED to my theory!
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#12910
Jul 25, 2013
 
Here's why:

http://youtu.be/Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

Because I hate injustice.
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#12911
Jul 26, 2013
 
who gives a big fat rats rear end if your black and mad.

if your black your in a subculture that doesn't count or participate in real life anyway.

look around the south side of Chicago, Detroit that doesn't look like real life anywhere on the planet I have ever lived.

but those blacks keep voting for democrats and welfare so they deserve what they get which is NOTHING.
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reality is a crutch wrote:
who gives a big fat rats rear end if your black and mad.
if your black your in a subculture that doesn't count or participate in real life anyway.
look around the south side of Chicago, Detroit that doesn't look like real life anywhere on the planet I have ever lived.
but those blacks keep voting for democrats and welfare so they deserve what they get which is NOTHING.
But Blacks are citizens of America and have the right to vote for whatever party they choose.

Otherwise you'd be living in an autocracy or worse still, a dictatorship.

Surely that isn't what you want. After all, you attack other nations (politically, economically and militarily) who shun democracy.

Me personally, I think Blacks have got it right. Your forefathers plundered their heritage to the point that many Blacks in America don't even know where in Africa their ancestors originated.

Let them live for free on the backs of hardworking Whites.

After all - America became the richest nation on the backs of Blacks.

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CrimeaRiver wrote:
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But Blacks are citizens of America and have the right to vote for whatever party they choose.
Otherwise you'd be living in an autocracy or worse still, a dictatorship.
Surely that isn't what you want. After all, you attack other nations (politically, economically and militarily) who shun democracy.
Me personally, I think Blacks have got it right. Your forefathers plundered their heritage to the point that many Blacks in America don't even know where in Africa their ancestors originated.
Let them live for free on the backs of hardworking Whites.
After all - America became the richest nation on the backs of Blacks.
You are a troll (or convincingly sarcastic)

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CrimeaRiver wrote:
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But Blacks are citizens of America and have the right to vote for whatever party they choose.
Otherwise you'd be living in an autocracy or worse still, a dictatorship.
Surely that isn't what you want. After all, you attack other nations (politically, economically and militarily) who shun democracy.
Me personally, I think Blacks have got it right. Your forefathers plundered their heritage to the point that many Blacks in America don't even know where in Africa their ancestors originated.
Let them live for free on the backs of hardworking Whites.
After all - America became the richest nation on the backs of Blacks.
To feed the troll:
Yes they have the right to vote for whoever they want to... However the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

That is what Detroit has done. That is what blacks do. If you are in a desperate situation and IF YOU WANT OUT what should you do? Vote for the same programs and people that keep you in that desperate situation? Those people and those programs have not helped to this point. Why not try something different?

Illinois elected a crappy senator that did NOTHING for them as a senator. Illinois elected a crappy president that has done NOTHING for them. Illinois elected the same crappy president a second time. Each time expecting a different result from doing the same thing.

We can all make a difference in our lives, but, ONLY IF WE WANT TO.

The African American population in this country is empowered. There is nothing stopping them from doing what they want or need to do except themselves!
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Jul 26, 2013
 
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To feed the troll:
Yes they have the right to vote for whoever they want to... However the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
That is what Detroit has done. That is what blacks do. If you are in a desperate situation and IF YOU WANT OUT what should you do? Vote for the same programs and people that keep you in that desperate situation? Those people and those programs have not helped to this point. Why not try something different?
Illinois elected a crappy senator that did NOTHING for them as a senator. Illinois elected a crappy president that has done NOTHING for them. Illinois elected the same crappy president a second time. Each time expecting a different result from doing the same thing.
We can all make a difference in our lives, but, ONLY IF WE WANT TO.
The African American population in this country is empowered. There is nothing stopping them from doing what they want or need to do except themselves!
Ok - but lets get one thing straight first. As well as lazy good-for-nothing blacks. There is also a huge percentage of Whites that fall into this same category.

All Americans are empowered, be they black, white or hispanic.

But unfortunately poverty and deprivation are perpetual cycles which are hard to break. And unless you can throw a ball through a hoop, kick a ball through an H or sing your little lungs out then you are more or less destined to remain in that cycle.

Social mobility is a fallacy - only a small percentage of people move out of the social strata they are born into.

Americans hate the term socialism. But socialism would provide a free education for all and a free health service for all. That would level the playing field just enough to ensure everyone has the same chance in life.

Do you think a working class parent can raise enough cash to send their kids to univerity at a cost of $30,000+. Do you think that a university education is high on their priority list when they have to keep a roof over their head?

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CrimeaRiver wrote:
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Ok - but lets get one thing straight first. As well as lazy good-for-nothing blacks. There is also a huge percentage of Whites that fall into this same category.
All Americans are empowered, be they black, white or hispanic.
But unfortunately poverty and deprivation are perpetual cycles which are hard to break. And unless you can throw a ball through a hoop, kick a ball through an H or sing your little lungs out then you are more or less destined to remain in that cycle.
Social mobility is a fallacy - only a small percentage of people move out of the social strata they are born into.
Americans hate the term socialism. But socialism would provide a free education for all and a free health service for all. That would level the playing field just enough to ensure everyone has the same chance in life.
Do you think a working class parent can raise enough cash to send their kids to univerity at a cost of $30,000+. Do you think that a university education is high on their priority list when they have to keep a roof over their head?
I agree that all races can fall in this category.

Intentionally skipping over reasons for socialism

As far as opportunities with university goes.. Well we have a good model in my house. I encourage and empower my children to do the best they can with their education. This leads to scholarships. Sure education is expensive but if your child is motivated and understands the importance those costs can be greatly reduced. If you are a thug in HS or just dont care then sure you either wont go or it will be out of your reach. Many states and cities also have programs that benefit the children living near them.

I am working class. I work 50 hours a week in the IT support field. I have 3 children at home and I provide our necessities as well as limited luxuries. Based upon the advice I have heard from multiple financial planners I will not be going into debt for the sake of my children's education. They will need to work or incur their own debt. Luckily for us Purdue has a satellite campus nearby that offers wonderful opportunities.
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Jul 26, 2013
 
Freaky1Freaky wrote:
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I agree that all races can fall in this category.
Intentionally skipping over reasons for socialism
As far as opportunities with university goes.. Well we have a good model in my house. I encourage and empower my children to do the best they can with their education. This leads to scholarships. Sure education is expensive but if your child is motivated and understands the importance those costs can be greatly reduced. If you are a thug in HS or just dont care then sure you either wont go or it will be out of your reach. Many states and cities also have programs that benefit the children living near them.
I am working class. I work 50 hours a week in the IT support field. I have 3 children at home and I provide our necessities as well as limited luxuries. Based upon the advice I have heard from multiple financial planners I will not be going into debt for the sake of my children's education. They will need to work or incur their own debt. Luckily for us Purdue has a satellite campus nearby that offers wonderful opportunities.
Unfortunately, educational success is directly linked to the quality of the local schools available. You have the odd child who may be naturally gifted, if they can avoid the pitfalls of High School life then they may go one to achieve great things and get a scholarship.

But the reality is that bad schools create bad students which creates ill adjusted adults. This then leads to what Merton called 'anomie'.

The process by which a child/adult feels they can't achieve success through accepted channels (school, hard work, sport, scholarship) and so endeavour to achieve success through unacceptable means (drug, robbery, fraud).

This is called counter-culture and is a better way to describe what you called sub-culture.

Counter culture has created more Black millionaires in America than the accepted channels (barring sports). Just look at the HipHop movement. A bunch of thugs touting weapons and glorifying crime have made millions. And in turn they can offer a chance to other young Black males that the system has not been able to.

Black counter culture in the USA has even been exported to Europe and all around the world. You may see it as destructive - but it is something that marginalised/disenfranchised black youths in America have done by and for themselves. And now even white working class disenfranchised youths can reap the benefits (just look at Eminem).

Sorry for the long post - but it isn't as easy as 'they're all lazy'.

Something needs to be done to redress the balance between the haves and have-nots. But that isn't in the Capitalist model's best interest
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Jul 26, 2013
 
Freaky1Freaky wrote:
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I agree that all races can fall in this category.
Intentionally skipping over reasons for socialism
As far as opportunities with university goes.. Well we have a good model in my house. I encourage and empower my children to do the best they can with their education. This leads to scholarships. Sure education is expensive but if your child is motivated and understands the importance those costs can be greatly reduced. If you are a thug in HS or just dont care then sure you either wont go or it will be out of your reach. Many states and cities also have programs that benefit the children living near them.
I am working class. I work 50 hours a week in the IT support field. I have 3 children at home and I provide our necessities as well as limited luxuries. Based upon the advice I have heard from multiple financial planners I will not be going into debt for the sake of my children's education. They will need to work or incur their own debt. Luckily for us Purdue has a satellite campus nearby that offers wonderful opportunities.
By the way - I was also born into a working class family in a working class area.

My parents finally saves enough money to move into the suburbs and I was lucky enough to move from a state school to a Grammar School

My life changed - so i speak from experience.

Had i not had that opportunity, I too would've become part of the counter cutlure
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Jul 26, 2013
 
Frank wrote:
You know why I get angry?
Becaue it is completely unacceptable to be white and angry. And when I read things like this - that is what I get (and white is what I am).
The double-standards are unbelievable and (in a world where equality is the goal - so they so) UNACCEPTABLE!!!
I'm sick and tired and reading articles about how I just don't understand. Well you know what - neither do you! You weren'ta slave and your parents weren't slaves.
The Jews have risen above the Holocaust. The Japanese have risen above Hiroshima. I, as a Catholic, have risen about the Romans feeding my anscestors to the lions. But for some reason, African Americans can't seem to rise above ANYTHING!!!
You vilify people like Bill Cosby; call him an Uncle Tom and call him a sellout - all because he tells the truth. And you glorify people like Rev. Wright - because he 'tells if like you wish it was'.
And yes, Obama summed it up.'It cannot be washed away." But you know what, it can be "moved beyond". But it has to start in the black community.
I live in a small town in Kentucky. Black folk live in my subdivision. A black man coaches our county basketball team. The high school has a black male assistant principal. We have black teachers. Most black students are motivated and many go to college. We are a tourist community and I see many mixed race families. Our community is far from perfect, but we do not have big city problems.

I type this to put across this point. Opportunities are available for black people that their grand fathers never dreamed of. But black folk have to be prepared both academically and have the ambition in order to take advantage of these opportunities. Teens who learn more from rap than they learn from teachers are never going to get beyond a future of early death or jail.

The civil rights movement changed America for the better. A segment of the black community is far better off now that they were before the movement. Another segment is far worse. Fatherless children, gangs, the poison of rap, generations of well fare dependence, rotting in housing developments, the prison culture...this segment has degenerated.

Come on Jackson, Sharpton, media, politicians and black preachers talk about the real racism in this country. The selling out of inner city black youth. Politicians stop blocking vouchers. Black men father the children that you begat, kids began to realize that life will take you only as far as you have educated yourself.

Young black males will die on Chicago streets this week end. Does no body care?
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tired of silly wrote:
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Bull puckey. You're coming from a socialist mind-set, so you simply don't get it. Americans have traditionally been independent (that's why we revolted against your king) and self-reliant. It is only in the past few generations, since the 1960's and the beginning of the downslide into socialist policies, that SOME Americans, not by any means all or even the majority, have decided that the nanny state should provide for them. In past generations, if your parents weren't responsible enough or successful enough to provide for college, you either found a way to make a living that did not require a college degree, or you worked your own way through college. Imagine that.........providing for yourself instead of asking the taxpayers to provide for you!!!!!! As for the schools, again, BULL PUCKEY! If parents teach the value of education, are involved in their kids' education, and instill the value of education in their children, they will succeed. If, like so many of the ghetto dwellers, the parents are not married, the father is absent and the mother does not make her kids and their education a priority.........more ghetto dwellers result. And here's a REALLY revolutionary thought. If you can't afford to feed, clothe, house and educate children, DON'T HAVE THEM. Keep your pants on and you won't find yourself stuck with kids you can't afford. It is absolutely still possible for ANYONE to succeed in America. It will never be possible to do so without expending your own blood, sweat and tears, and it never SHOULD be possible to succeed without doing so.
I'm not speaking from a socialist mindset but a sociological one.

If it were as easy as 'everyone go get a job' then we wouldn't be in this situation. But there is unemployment because your government didn't protect industry and manufacturing. Why? because the US ruling class are only interested in profit and not nationalist interests. As can be seen by the disastrous banking crisis that formed in the states.

You need to move with the times. The world has changed,

So where are these people supposed to work? By your reasoning, it is then comendable that a youth who can't find work should sell drugs. After all 'by any means possible' is your mantra right?

Feaky1Freaky should be commended for working 50 hours a week. But it isn't always possible.

Stop blaming the product of social policy and instead address the inadequacies of your social policy

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CrimeaRiver wrote:
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You need to move with the times. The world has changed,
So where are these people supposed to work? By your reasoning, it is then comendable that a youth who can't find work should sell drugs. After all 'by any means possible' is your mantra right?
I would disagree. The company I work for operates out of multiple cities. All are major metropolises. Operations in all are understaffed. You know why?
1) The general applicant is ignorant (not like rude ignorant but uneducated ignorant).
2) These jobs would be primarily for the 20 something young adult. That group of the population does NOT want to work.
3) Why work for minimum wage when the gubment is paying you more than minimum wage to sit on your ass.

So we (the big corporate monster) should pay exorbitant wages to appease the "Don't give a damn" employee?

I went from HS straight to the Army. Upon leaving the Army I took a minimum wage job (part-time) while I went to college. My wife took a job to supplement my crap wages. The job SUCKED! I didn't give up I busted my balls and succeeded in the work place, took a couple promotions and completed my 4 year degree.

The problem today is not with those over (let's say) 30. It is the 20 somethings and younger. They are raised in an entitlement state. The Me generation I believe they call it. They want instant gratification with the smallest of effort.

Guess the F$%K what... if you want it you HAVE to work for it.

Quit putting your hand out. Good example... I work in Chicago and take daily lunch walks... I won't give a cent to the bum sitting on his ass holding up a cup. However, if I pass a destitute soul that is providing some entertainment even if it is just humming loudly I will give them something.

You do nothing you get nothing.... Get out there and work for waht you want!
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What a coincidence - you are black and mad - I am not black and too busy working to be mad. I am working like the generations before me who paid the taxes that paid the bills of those who were too busy being mad to work. Gee - small world isn't it? If you can ever get over your generational anger could you maybe get a job and get happy? The rest of us would like a break.
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tired of silly wrote:
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Congratulations, sir. You are a real American. And thank you for your military service. I don't expect that our friend from across the pond will comprehend, he/she has been steeped in the socialist values of Europe and has no idea how different the mindset of REAL Americans is from those of the socialist countries. Best wishes to you, sir.
TOS - you need to stop acting as if any political system that differs from yours is somehow destructive and at odds with the US.

Other political systems do exist you know, and many of them existed before the United States was even born.

What you're saying is that a National Health Service is bad, that free healthcare for the masses is destructive. That if my child falls seriously ill but i can't afford health insurance, then he/she should just be allowed to die? Come on!

Britain has actually adopted a semi US-style approach to university education. We don't pay full fees but pay up to 10,000 a year. Do you know what the result is? Lower volumes of applications for University. Do you know what that means for the future? It means that a University Education has once again become class based where only those who can afford to will get a degree.

It means that future genarations are more likely to end up on social welfare because they no longer have the opportunity to escapte their class based fate.

A free education levels the playing field - it means every child has the same opportunity regardless of how wealthy, broke, priveleged or lazy their parents are.

A child's future should not be dependent on their parents willingness to work. Thats how people get caught in the perpetual cycle of deprivation that i spoke about before.

And Stop this socialism bashing - Firstly - Socialism and Marxism/Communism are no the same thing. Secondly, the US Declaration of Independence is one of the most beatifully socialist documents I've ever read. Inalienable rights, right to revolution, equality, Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

You should read it some time.

I'm not being argumnetative here, I'm just saying that you shouldn't ridicule other political systems. That is what will eventually cause America's demise as the paragon of world Freedom. Take it from someone whose own empire suffered a similar fate.

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CrimeaRiver wrote:
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TOS - you need to stop acting as if any political system that differs from yours is somehow destructive and at odds with the US.
Other political systems do exist you know, and many of them existed before the United States was even born.
What you're saying is that a National Health Service is bad, that free healthcare for the masses is destructive. That if my child falls seriously ill but i can't afford health insurance, then he/she should just be allowed to die? Come on!
Britain has actually adopted a semi US-style approach to university education. We don't pay full fees but pay up to 10,000 a year. Do you know what the result is? Lower volumes of applications for University. Do you know what that means for the future? It means that a University Education has once again become class based where only those who can afford to will get a degree.
It means that future genarations are more likely to end up on social welfare because they no longer have the opportunity to escapte their class based fate.
A free education levels the playing field - it means every child has the same opportunity regardless of how wealthy, broke, priveleged or lazy their parents are.
A child's future should not be dependent on their parents willingness to work. Thats how people get caught in the perpetual cycle of deprivation that i spoke about before.
And Stop this socialism bashing - Firstly - Socialism and Marxism/Communism are no the same thing. Secondly, the US Declaration of Independence is one of the most beatifully socialist documents I've ever read. Inalienable rights, right to revolution, equality, Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
You should read it some time.
I'm not being argumnetative here, I'm just saying that you shouldn't ridicule other political systems. That is what will eventually cause America's demise as the paragon of world Freedom. Take it from someone whose own empire suffered a similar fate.
Again, you simply don't "get" the American mindset. I have no interest in trying to explain it further to you. I'll ridicule anything I want, sir. SOCIALISM SUCKS!! That's why Europe is falling apart. You all want a nanny state and not to be accountable for your own success or failure. Yes, taxpayer funded health care is a bad thing. Yes, taxpayer funded education beyond h.s. is a bad thing. Again, I do not expect you to understand. You have been brainwashed since birth. But real Americans are standing strong against the encroachment of socialist values. We don't WANT the taxpaying public to support us, and as taxpayers, we don't want to support the lazy. End of discussion,since it's OT anyway. Bottom line for this thread is that we're becoming "white and mad" and we're tired of supporting millions of blacks on welfare. Stop making excuses and get a J O B!!!

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