Chicago teachers ready to strike, hop...

Chicago teachers ready to strike, hoping for deal

There are 338 comments on the Salt Lake Tribune story from Sep 8, 2012, titled Chicago teachers ready to strike, hoping for deal. In it, Salt Lake Tribune reports that:

Demonstrators with the Chicago Teachers Union rally at Daley Plaza in Chicago, Monday, Sept.

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“Hillary, thirty years of lying”

Since: Nov 08

Paris

#332 Sep 17, 2012
Pennsylvania wrote:
Teachers "insisted we aren't playing games, we need more time to study the complex agreement "
Take all the time you need to study the agreement . You fooled the people this long you may as well stay out longer and study the agreement . It isn't going to get any better.
How many homeowner/taxpayers can be fooled into believing your pay and pensions are good for the taxpayer paying your way for life?
FLASH: THIS JUST IN.........STUDENT TEST SCORES HAVE GONE UP..........since the teachers strike started.
LIveFreeOrDie

Seattle, WA

#333 Sep 17, 2012
Who couldn't just the city of Chicago have an extra surtax of 5% on transactions to cover this? THen the burden would be more evenly spread. Instead of "spread the wealth around" we should start with "spread the debt around". Wouldn't it be much less likely this stopped continuing if the average voiter actually felt it in his/her pocket next time they voted D?

Again, the republicans aren't much better. None of them has trhe guts to take on the teachers, maybe with exception of Christie and he's got enough problems with this in NJ.

Al the fools who have voted democrat day in and day out without ever questioning anything and just continuing to think we can just loot "the rich" (unless those righ are the teachers to begin with), should hopefully learn from this. However, since a large part of the democrat base never pays any taxes to begin with, this is not so sure a thing as one would think. Best thing in the long run would be to provide free buses, planes and a one-bye little piece of money and tell them to go to Chicago. Remember, Chicago is also a "sanctuary citry" so they can always get one of those jobs "americans don't want", because I always hear there are tons of them around.

Finally, as Mike above said: Why would you become a teacher if you have any sense of drive, integrity or simply a desire to work for your OWN paycheck? At least that is what I wonder about.

dummys

United States

#334 Sep 17, 2012
these teachers need to be fired and hire new people. if the mayor or obama had any balls they would tell them to go back to work or be canned....these teachers know they are worthless thats why they dont want the yearly evaluation.and since they are mostly black im sure obama will step in and make sure they dont have to be evaluated.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#336 Sep 17, 2012
Ask not what the taxpayer can do for you

Ask what you can do for the taxpayer

I heard this somewhere before ?
Bill

Miami, FL

#337 Sep 18, 2012
dummys wrote:
these teachers need to be fired and hire new people. if the mayor or obama had any balls they would tell them to go back to work or be canned....these teachers know they are worthless thats why they dont want the yearly evaluation.and since they are mostly black im sure obama will step in and make sure they dont have to be evaluated.
You covered all the relevant points extremely well. Obama stepping in to save the day is just part of his campaign strategy.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#338 Sep 18, 2012
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>You covered all the relevant points extremely well. Obama stepping in to save the day is just part of his campaign strategy.
The teachers were already added into the Obama column of 47 %.

Food stamps , welfare , housing , SSD , GM , Chrysler
LiveFreeOrDie

Seattle, WA

#339 Sep 18, 2012
Teachers union won. Emmanuel has now revealed himself to be a loser here. It looked like he wanted topick a fight earlier, but I guess the Messiah told him to knock it off and give them whatever they were asking for.

After all, taking someone elses money and giving it to people who then will vote for you isn't hard when all you have to do is raise taxes.
Bill

Miami, FL

#340 Sep 18, 2012
Pennsylvania wrote:
<quoted text>
The teachers were already added into the Obama column of 47 %.
Food stamps , welfare , housing , SSD , GM , Chrysler
Most of the teachers I know despise the unions and their over paid thug leaders. They are for ROMNEY but are afraid to tell many of their fellow teachers.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#341 Sep 19, 2012
Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Most of the teachers I know despise the unions and their over paid thug leaders. They are for ROMNEY but are afraid to tell many of their fellow teachers.
Lets hope you're right . Redistribution of money isn't the hope and change Obama ran under . Back in the day the unions would use
strong arm tactics and tough talk rhetoric. I know a few people that voted for Obama and will now vote for Romney . Obama has his 47% and growing . The polls are slanted in favor of Obama by only polling democrats . Mr nice guy Romney has to show stronger in the debates without name calling and try to get his facts out in the light . The 47 % are getting more than enough money ,why should they want change .
Bill

Miami, FL

#342 Sep 19, 2012
Pennsylvania wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets hope you're right . Redistribution of money isn't the hope and change Obama ran under . Back in the day the unions would use
strong arm tactics and tough talk rhetoric. I know a few people that voted for Obama and will now vote for Romney . Obama has his 47% and growing . The polls are slanted in favor of Obama by only polling democrats . Mr nice guy Romney has to show stronger in the debates without name calling and try to get his facts out in the light . The 47 % are getting more than enough money ,why should they want change .
A huge part of the 47% are welfare slugs who know if a Republican gets in they are toast.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#343 Sep 19, 2012
"How will a 17 % raise over four years be funded and will my property taxes go up" ?

answer- There are no public funds , just public workers funded by your taxes . Subtle, but there it is .They would like you to think the state pays also but they only get your money in taxes and hand it over .

No different for the President of the United States or other elected officials . They don't have money either . They get paid through you.
LiveFreeOrDie

Seattle, WA

#344 Sep 19, 2012
No problem, raise the property taxes again. Eventually those "selfish people" who happen to own "too large" houses would not be able to keep them and therefore they would sell and this would give MORE revenue to the government.

Agree: Public funding is a made-up word. What one really is talking about is finding new ways to steal from those who work for a living and give it to those who don't.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#345 Sep 19, 2012
LiveFreeOrDie wrote:
No problem, raise the property taxes again. Eventually those "selfish people" who happen to own "too large" houses would not be able to keep them and therefore they would sell and this would give MORE revenue to the government.
Agree: Public funding is a made-up word. What one really is talking about is finding new ways to steal from those who work for a living and give it to those who don't.
The playbook is the same for teachers from state to state and district to district . They want what other districts are getting and take note of what happens in other states . Then wait til school starts and strike . It's all orchestrated to have a contract or strike run out at the opportune time. They usually get what they want from stacked school boards and go on strike once and a while just for shits a giggles . Now that the taxpayer knows what's going on do you think it will make a difference .

My posts are getting old, like peeing on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Live

Spokane, WA

#346 Sep 19, 2012
This is amazing. I think there must even be a Democrat or two that must be smart enough to see what is coming. Because even most trial lawyers,and especially crony capitalists depend upn a free market to survive. And no revolution with full redistribution would work today either libs. It DID work under the Russian revolution, because even "the evil rich" had most of their wealth in local assets and commodities.
Today, so much wealth is tied up on fake paper currency based upon a false assumption and shares based upon psychological trust that if the revolution hits home it will be th same lie it always is in a revolution -> Those with resourcs will GTFO, while the others will be at the mercy of people that got power through intimidation and violence.

You think Obama cannot get worse? Idon't now, his entire rheotic this day sounds ery revolutionary to me.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#348 Sep 20, 2012
He hung around with revolutionaries in Chicago ? What do you really think if he gets another four ?

It sounded the same way four years ago and he was elected . It doesn't look so good , he already has 50 some % he can count on . He's a disgrace to America .
LiveFreeOrDie

Seattle, WA

#349 Sep 20, 2012
The most crazy thing here I am totally sure the mass of lazy, entitled and class-envious mooches would have no problem taking all the money of everybody else and throwing them in the dark.

Communists always appeal to the primitive feeling soul of those who claim to be "oppressed".

I think as more and more p[roductive people will leave the mooch-commie states, we will see HOW effective that system is.

When Rahm Emmanuel seems like the most reasonable person in town, then it's time to wake up before your tax bracket hits French levels. Even THAT I am sure the liberals won't accept. They have lived their entire life giving out someone else's money to others. Now we will see the results of this.

Currently, a moment of minimalistic life style is emerging. IT is only SOOO much property tax and other looting the government can do and as long as you live in a state where you can still own (and use) a gun without endiong up like GZ, I think there is still hope somewhere.



Psalms 109.8

United States

#350 Sep 23, 2012
Pennsylvania wrote:
He hung around with revolutionaries in Chicago ? What do you really think if he gets another four ?

It sounded the same way four years ago and he was elected . It doesn't look so good , he already has 50 some % he can count on . He's a disgrace to America .
And the partisan fight will continue regardless of the outcome. I just hope the truth comes out in spite of the lies the MSM feeds us. Thank God for Fox News.
Pennsylvania

Reading, PA

#352 Sep 23, 2012
mike wrote:
Interesting article today in the WSJ regarding why the best and the brightest no longer go into teaching.
These kids work like heck and are rewarded with acceptance to the best colleges. then they work just as hard and do well. So why would any of them then want to go into a profession that rewards everyone without regards to what they have accomplished?
That's an easy one .
MONEY , No job in the private sector pays as much as a starting teacher graduate from a teacher mill. 180 days work, six hr days ,
summers off , 13 holidays , christmas break , new years , easter, rosh hash , can't ever lose any part of your full salary pension .
Retire in your fifties and get paid for life plus collect s/s .

They no longer go into teaching cause there ain't no teaching jobs like there used to be.
mike

Akron, OH

#353 Sep 24, 2012
You are somewhat right. But most of the students i know today in education are not exactly the 'best and the brightest.' Those that are and graduate from the top univeristy - with potentially the most to offer - are more interested in a job where there excellence can be recognized and rewarded - which is NOT teaching.

In short, even the short work year, early retirement, etc is not enough to atrract them and more than it would be to run in a race (and win) but against a bunch of one sorry a## runners.
Atlas Shrugged

Caruthersville, MO

#354 Sep 25, 2012
Bottomline: they don't care about the kids. They want more money KNOWING THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK .....Why? because 71% of the tax money, that goes to education in IL, goes into the retirement fund exclusively. There is no way this is going to work!!!

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