“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#21 Nov 8, 2012
ChicagolandChica wrote:
I don't see veterans as perfect people who should be kowtowed to at all times.
In the Orlando Sentinel's ticked off feature, there was a guy in the military who was ticked off that some restaurant did not offer military discount and was complaining about how he was going to get all his friends to never go there. Thumbs up to places that DO offer a military discount, but I thought this guy was a complete a-hole with his entitled attitude. It's nice when offered, but no one owes you a discounted meal.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#22 Nov 8, 2012
There a lot of fat cops who probably could not run 100yds without needing oxygen. Lots more sit behind a desk all day. And I would be curious to know how many firefighters actually run into a burning building as opposed to simply hosing it off from the outside. I see more firetrucks at publix grocery store than anywhere else.

I aint saying they dont, just that any vet who has served a couple of tours in Iraq probably faced 1000 times the danger that any cop or fireman will in their entire career, and gets a pittance of a pension compared to them if they are injured.
ChicagolandChica wrote:
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Because they're generally in it for the long haul, and face more danger over the course of their careers.
YES, of course there are people in the Army/Navy/Marines/Air Force who get shot at or blown up or are in otherwise awful situations, but there are plenty who don't see any action, either, especially in peace time.
Firefighters get the most respect from me, actually, because they are deliberately running into a place that everyone else is running away from.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#23 Nov 8, 2012
ChicagolandChica wrote:
Because they're generally in it for the long haul, and face more danger over the course of their careers..
Hmmm....Paramedics face more danger? How? Don't they typically come in and put the pieces back together after the danger is over?
ChicagolandChica wrote:
YES, of course there are people in the Army/Navy/Marines/Air Force who get shot at or blown up or are in otherwise awful situations, but there are plenty who don't see any action, either, especially in peace time.
And aren't there a lot of cops who work the job for years and have never had to ever draw their weapon? Its not a shootout in front of a liquor store every other day.
ChicagolandChica wrote:
Firefighters get the most respect from me, actually, because they are deliberately running into a place that everyone else is running away from.
I'll agree with that.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#24 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
There a lot of fat cops who probably could not run 100yds without needing oxygen. Lots more sit behind a desk all day. And I would be curious to know how many firefighters actually run into a burning building as opposed to simply hosing it off from the outside. I see more firetrucks at publix grocery store than anywhere else.
I aint saying they dont, just that any vet who has served a couple of tours in Iraq probably faced 1000 times the danger that any cop or fireman will in their entire career, and gets a pittance of a pension compared to them if they are injured.
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I totally agree. Driving out to every fender bender and spending time on the clock working out in the gym sounds a sh1tload cushier than watching out for land mines in Iraq.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#25 Nov 8, 2012
Mister Tonka wrote:
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Hmmm....Paramedics face more danger? How? Don't they typically come in and put the pieces back together after the danger is over?
<quoted text>
And aren't there a lot of cops who work the job for years and have never had to ever draw their weapon? Its not a shootout in front of a liquor store every other day.
<quoted text> I'll agree with that.
In Chicago, medics put their lives in danger every time they go in to some neighborhoods. F that. Plus, dealing with combative patients?

I play hockey with a lot of medics, cops, and firefighters. It's *really* nice to know that if something happens, the right people are next to me. All of them are braver than I'll ever be.

Since: Jan 10

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#26 Nov 8, 2012
j_m_w wrote:
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I agree. And the letter's point #2 sounds like she (since it's Amanda, we decided it's a female LW, right?) is basically asking for strangers to pick up her check in restaurants. I'd gladly do that for a veteran on a given day but not after they basically told me I should.
Heh. I see veterans (based on their special license plates) driving $40K SUVs. I appreciate that they fought for my country, and I will even shake his hand and say so to his face, but i'm not picking up a tab for a that guy. I'd rather spend the money on, say, new shoes for a homeless vet.

Since: Jan 10

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#27 Nov 8, 2012
I don't see the point in a pissing contest between who is more deserving of our respect -- soldiers, cops, firefighters, etc. Other than being drafted, all of them went into that line of work voluntarily. But they also have chosen a rather altruistic line of work, and I have a lot of respect for that.

Cops, firefighters, soldiers, I can appreciate all they do AND the sacrifices their families make so jobs can get done.

Heck, if I have to go to a convenience store on Thanksgiving or Christmas, I don't do the lame "Sucks that you have to work today" route. I say "thanks for working today, I appreciate your being open."

Since: Jan 10

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#28 Nov 8, 2012
BTW, I called the non-emergency police number Monday night. "I don't know if you care about this, but a st. paul police car has a headlight out, do you want more info?" She absolutely wanted it. Gave her the squad car # and she said she'd radio him to let him know he needed to get that fixed right away. I told her, "Finally!*I* get to report a COP for something!" She laughed and was very nice and thankful.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#29 Nov 8, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Heh. I see veterans (based on their special license plates) driving $40K SUVs. I appreciate that they fought for my country, and I will even shake his hand and say so to his face, but i'm not picking up a tab for a that guy. I'd rather spend the money on, say, new shoes for a homeless vet.
Ha, yeah. Two of my uncles were career military and then had/have careers after that. They aren't hurting for cash.
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#30 Nov 8, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I don't see the point in a pissing contest between who is more deserving of our respect -- soldiers, cops, firefighters, etc.
Exactly. IMO their jobs are more selfless and and more deserving of recognition than most, if not everyone's, in here.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#31 Nov 8, 2012
I see people who are paying for the groceries with (wic?) cards and loading them into their Escalade's.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Heh. I see veterans (based on their special license plates) driving $40K SUVs. I appreciate that they fought for my country, and I will even shake his hand and say so to his face, but i'm not picking up a tab for a that guy. I'd rather spend the money on, say, new shoes for a homeless vet.
Uncle R

Conshohocken, PA

#32 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
I see people who are paying for the groceries with (wic?) cards and loading them into their Escalade's.
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Grocery stores can't discriminate what they buy or exchange cards to someone who maxed out.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#33 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
I see people who are paying for the groceries with (wic?) cards and loading them into their Escalade's.
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Some people sell their cards. Ask for a little less than what the card is worth and so then they have the cash for their drugs or whatever and then the person who buys it has a good deal for their groceries. That might be want is going on there.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#34 Nov 8, 2012
Right, and how did they get the escalade?
Oh, thats right, collecting welfare money from 4 different addresses
around the city.

How can I go about buying a wic card?
Toj wrote:
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Some people sell their cards. Ask for a little less than what the card is worth and so then they have the cash for their drugs or whatever and then the person who buys it has a good deal for their groceries. That might be want is going on there.

Since: Jan 10

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#35 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
I see people who are paying for the groceries with (wic?) cards and loading them into their Escalade's.
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EBT cards, most likely. WIC is a program for low-income single parents: Children must be in the household in order to participate in the program (and that program limits the foods allowed--no junk food, for instance).
pde

Homer Glen, IL

#36 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
I see people who are paying for the groceries with (wic?) cards and loading them into their Escalade's.
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At the grocery where I shop, there is one machine. You swipe a plastic card and it asks on the protected little screen:

[EBT][DEBIT][CREDIT]

Do they do it differently down there?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#37 Nov 8, 2012
Whats the diff? But I do remember that they showed the cashier the card before swiping it.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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EBT cards, most likely. WIC is a program for low-income single parents: Children must be in the household in order to participate in the program (and that program limits the foods allowed--no junk food, for instance).

Since: Jan 10

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#38 Nov 8, 2012
pde wrote:
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At the grocery where I shop, there is one machine. You swipe a plastic card and it asks on the protected little screen:
[EBT][DEBIT][CREDIT]
Do they do it differently down there?
In my observations, at least where I live, the EBT card reader is a separate card reader than the one that scanns debit/credit cards.
pde

Homer Glen, IL

#39 Nov 8, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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In my observations, at least where I live, the EBT card reader is a separate card reader than the one that scanns debit/credit cards.
Interesting. At my local grocery, the Trader Joe's, and Target (in Illinois), it's just an option presented by the card reader.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#40 Nov 8, 2012
Our EBT readers are the same as the debit/credit cards.

Some of this might be Illinois-specific or outdated technology but:

WIC is specific vouchers for a few items at a time. Really specific on what you can and cannot get, like two cans of baby formula or a gallon of milk, a dozen eggs, a brick of cheese, and some dried beans. LINK or food stamps is a card that looks like a debit card. They can put food stamps on there and money. So, with one card, they can have $200 in food stamps and $200 in cash benefits that they can get out at the ATM or use for purchases.

And yeah, it got old, as a cashier, seeing the obvious abuse of the system. I finally just had to stop thinking about it entirely.

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