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edogxxx wrote:
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You're ok with a married man cheating on his sick wife?
See my response to Red.

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edogxxx wrote:
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Screw you! You don't dictate what's moral either, nor do you dictate what others think is moral, so fk off!
He never said he gets to dictate what is moral.

Unlike him, you are like the Muslim Brotherhood ... you seem to think your morals should be imposed upon everyone.

In many instances, what is moral and immoral is not something everyone agrees upon. Given this you are free to live your life according to your morals and judge folks who do not subscribe to your morals, but your morals are personal to you.

So when you say that's immoral, really it's something you, edog, find immoral. It might not be immoral to others. As Race said, you aren't the arbiter of morals for the world.

So when you said to Angela:
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<quoted text> Do you take pride in your lack of morals?
What you should have said was "do you take pride in your lack of MY morals." If you had done so, I would wager she would say "yes, yes she does."

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PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>When and if hs wife dies he will wind up with someone other than the Mistress.
You don't know that.

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RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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RIght. My telling a guy he can have sex on the side if his wife is unable to have sex for 10 years is giving him "free rein"
YES! What part of that are you not understanding? And who says ten years is the magic number? Where's that number even coming from? And a truly devoted spouse still wouldn't cheat. But I don't expect you to understand anyone with morals.

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Sublime1 wrote:
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He never said he gets to dictate what is moral.
Unlike him, you are like the Muslim Brotherhood ... you seem to think your morals should be imposed upon everyone.
In many instances, what is moral and immoral is not something everyone agrees upon. Given this you are free to live your life according to your morals and judge folks who do not subscribe to your morals, but your morals are personal to you.
So when you say that's immoral, really it's something you, edog, find immoral. It might not be immoral to others. As Race said, you aren't the arbiter of morals for the world.
So when you said to Angela:
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What you should have said was "do you take pride in your lack of MY morals." If you had done so, I would wager she would say "yes, yes she does."
Get off you're goddamm high horse. You don't dictate what's moral. I don't dictate what's moral. SOCIETY dictates what's moral.

And I am not going to debate whether cheating on your sick spouse is moral or not. Of course it is, society says so.

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LW1: If he truly cared about you and your interests, instead of just his own, he would discuss things openly with you and probably encourage you to find someone else, because you two are not on an equal footing. He should think that you deserve more than he can offer. Sometimes the true mark of love is letting something go, because you know it deserves more than you can offer. He doesn’t see things this way and it sounds like it is all about him.
At the same time, it depends what you want out of the relationship. You want to replace his wife, but that may not ever happen. So, if you really want to be married, you may have to find someone else. Problem is it won’t be him. Sometimes you meet the right person at the wrong time.
It’s a tough situation and your call. You must decide what you want more … him and the limited time he can offer you or to be married.
LW2: Tell him he turned you gay and you no longer talk to men.
LW3: At home, I just drink mine from the bowl same with soup. In a restaurant I use a spoon for left over liquid of soup, and I would never order cereal in a restaurant.
All of this.

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Dummy, I was not trying to dictate, you are. Stop doing crank your brain is dissolving.
edogxxx wrote:
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Screw you! You don't dictate what's moral either, nor do you dictate what others think is moral, so fk off!

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Sublime1 wrote:
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He never said he gets to dictate what is moral.
Unlike him, you are like the Muslim Brotherhood ... you seem to think your morals should be imposed upon everyone.
Maybe he should start his own country...Dogistan.

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edogxxx wrote:
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Get off you're goddamm high horse. You don't dictate what's moral. I don't dictate what's moral. SOCIETY dictates what's moral.
How can this be the case, when the members of society don't agree on what is immoral or moral? If the members of society agreed, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.
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<quoted text>And I am not going to debate whether cheating on your sick spouse is moral or not.
Whether other folks stay faithful or not, doesn’t provoke much of a response from me. I find your moral outrage, puzzling, in fact. Maybe it's cause you don't have your own SO and have too much time on your hands.

I'd also need to know more information before I could determine whether I found his conduct to be slimy. I can see why someone who is just their spouse’s caregiver would long for more companionship and intimacy. It might not be the road I would choose, but I wouldn’t come down too hard on a guy for acting on that. I’ve seen men behave much worse, including men who I consider friends. Even in the case of friends, I really don't care ... it's none of my business.

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Mimi Seattle wrote:
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Maybe he should start his own country...Dogistan.
Dogistan: Population 1, lol

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PEllen wrote:
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No need. She is already getting nailed.
Depends on what L1 wants. If she just needs some action occasionally without strings, she has it. If she wants a public relationship which might move to exclusive, it's not going to happen. When and if hs wife dies he will wind up with someone other than the Mistress.
FWIW I have known some otherwise decent men whose wives were dying of cancer who put moves on good friends. I took it as loneliness and a need for physical connection with someone who was not a stranger and did not judge them as cheating on a dying wife.
I should have said it bette r-- I didnt mean you'd nail LW1 with your words as in, being harsh. I just meant that you'd have a better perspective on it because I think you've probably witnessed some aspect of this behavior.

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edogxxx wrote:
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Get off you're goddamm high horse. You don't dictate what's moral. I don't dictate what's moral. SOCIETY dictates what's moral.
And I am not going to debate whether cheating on your sick spouse is moral or not. Of course it is, society says so.
HAHAHAHAHA!

Right. Society is going to agree on that. Whatevs.

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Mimi Seattle wrote:
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All of this.
I agree, Sub had a great post.

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Mimi Seattle wrote:
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Maybe he should start his own country...Dogistan.
With no taxes, it should run smoothly.
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edogxxx wrote:
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Get off you're goddamm high horse. You don't dictate what's moral. I don't dictate what's moral. SOCIETY dictates what's moral.
And I am not going to debate whether cheating on your sick spouse is moral or not. Of course it is, society says so.
Holy hell you are a moron. "Society" often gets things wrong and it is up to others to change people's beliefs thru words and deeds. Before Loving v. Virginia, "society" said interracial marriages were wrong and illegal. Was society correct? No, of course not. But why am I even bothering to respond to you...

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Sublime1 wrote:
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How can this be the case, when the members of society don't agree on what is immoral or moral? If the members of society agreed, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.
What in the hell are you talking about?? Cheating on your spouse has already been deemed immoral by society for a long time note. Again, I'm not having that argument.

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Dogistan: Population 1, lol
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Sublime1 wrote:
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How can this be the case, when the members of society don't agree on what is immoral or moral? If the members of society agreed, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.
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Whether other folks stay faithful or not, doesn’t provoke much of a response from me. I find your moral outrage, puzzling, in fact. Maybe it's cause you don't have your own SO and have too much time on your hands.
I'd also need to know more information before I could determine whether I found his conduct to be slimy. I can see why someone who is just their spouse’s caregiver would long for more companionship and intimacy. It might not be the road I would choose, but I wouldn’t come down too hard on a guy for acting on that. I’ve seen men behave much worse, including men who I consider friends. Even in the case of friends, I really don't care ... it's none of my business.
Mostly I agree. The part I have an issue with is that she broke it off then he pressured her to come back. SHE needs to get a spine and end it, but he needs to understand her position and NOT pressure her. They used to call it being noble, but I think no one really does that anymore...<sigh>
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Aug 21, 2013
 
LW1: You already know what you SHOULD do. You should break up with him for good and find a man who is SINGLE and available. But that's too challenging for you, so you keep going back to Mr. Married Guy. You should also do some self-work to figure out why you are settling for so little. This guy is not sweet, thoughtful, and caring. He is a charming cheat and I'd bet you lunch that you are not his first paramour.

LW2: Do not reply to this guy. There are plenty of men on the outside. Here's Mr. Charming #2, and he's even a worse pick than LW1's dude.

LW3: Yuck. I know I am weird, but when I eat cereal, which is not every day, I eat it dry. If you have leftover milk, you pour it down the sink. At a restaurant, you let the server deal with it and he or she pours it down the sink.

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edogxxx wrote:
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What in the hell are you talking about?? Cheating on your spouse has already been deemed immoral by society for a long time note. Again, I'm not having that argument.
Then why do so many people cheat? How do you explain polygamy?

Also who said he is cheating on her ... maybe she knows ... maybe he has a hall pass. Hard to say that would be immoral.

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