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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75849 Aug 16, 2014
WERE THE HEBREWS ORIGINALLY FROM CANAAN?

NO.

1) Abraham's story revolves around the two main themes of posterity and land. His career begins when he is called by his new found G-d to leave the house of his father, Terah, and to settle in the land which this G-d will show him. Genesis 11: 27-31 gives the birthplace of Abraham as Ur of the Chaldees. Abram married Sarai, who was barren. Terah, with Abram, Sarai, and Lot, then departed for Canaan, but settled in a place named Haran, where Terah died at the age of 205.(Genesis 11:27–32). The LORD had told Abraham to leave his country and kindred and go to a land that he would show him, and promised to make of him a great nation, bless him, make his name great, bless them that bless him, and curse "him" that curses him.(Genesis 12:1–3). Ur is in modern Iraq. Other scholar say that a similar sounding place with familiar landmarks is in Kashmir. Both these regions are far away from Canaan. The name Ur still exists in the name of the modern day country Iraq.

2) The new land, Canaan, that Abraham is to be directed to by his new found G-d is already settled by the descendants of Canaan, but this G-d now promises it to Abraham and his posterity.(At most of the points at which this promise is repeated, it is to Abraham's posterity rather than to Abraham himself).

LMFAO
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75850 Aug 16, 2014
HEBREWS AND KASHMIR

According to the ancient court chronicler, Sheikh-us.Sadiq, the Kristiani and Nazara cults regarded themselves as Jewish and because they were the interpreters of the King of Kashmir's laws and edicts the King of Kashmir himself was Jewish. The ancient Persian chronicle, Kamal-ud-Din narrates incidents about the Hebrews of Kashmir and the Hebrew rules of Kashmir in great detail. These ancient sources also talk about Moses, Solomon and others who being of Kashmiri descent died in Kashmir where their tombs exist till this day with exactly the same geographical and linguistic descriptions.

MUST READ

Jesus and Moses Are Buried in India, Birthplace of Abraham and the Hebrews!


By Gene D. Matlock

The author meticulously traces the origins of the Hebrews to Kashmir. Many other ancient historians and ancient historical records say the same.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75851 Aug 16, 2014
1) In his HISTORY OF THE JEWS, the Jewish philosopher and theologian, Flavious Jospehus (37 to 100 AD), wrote that the Greek philosopher Aristotle had said - "These Jews are derived from Indian philosophers and are named by the Indians, Calani.." (Book I:22).

The word Calani is derived from the Sanskirt Kalyani.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75852 Aug 16, 2014
MUST READS ON HEBREW HISTORY & ON ANCIENT INDIAN HISTORY IN GENERAL

1) From Kashmir to Palestine by Parmesh Chowdhury

2) The India we Have Lost by Parmesh Chowdhury

In the highly scholarly work, The India we Have Lost by Parmesh Chowdhury, he writes that, "much before the birth of Jesus, Palestine was colonized and dominated by Indians." Other scholarly treatises, give out amazing details, supported by archaeological and inscriptional and evidences and ancient historical records, on the ancient Indian diaspora and conquests which includes the spread of the Kashmiri Calanis (Hebrews) to the ME.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75853 Aug 16, 2014
I am off to bathe. Bye.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75854 Aug 16, 2014
I had a wonderful bath. I only wish Hugh was there to scrub my bare back, to towel my sexy body dry and to clean up after I stepped out of the bath.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#75855 Aug 17, 2014
JOEL wrote:
Yes, Abraham could have been from Ur or from Kashmir
or Kashmir????

What, now you hedge your best because Stefano points out the inconsistencies in your babble*?

*babble, by the way comes from "bavel", as in tower of Bavel. another import from the Jewish scriptures.....
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75856 Aug 17, 2014
JOEL wrote:
Logically speaking, since the first Hebrew, Abraham, originated in Ur thus modern Iraq is the original homeland of the Hebrews.
The first Hebrew was Eber, great, great grandson of Noah, great grandson of Shem.
Eric

Aurora, IL

#75857 Aug 17, 2014
JOEL wrote:
1) In his HISTORY OF THE JEWS, the Jewish philosopher and theologian, Flavious Jospehus (37 to 100 AD), wrote that the Greek philosopher Aristotle had said - "These Jews are derived from Indian philosophers and are named by the Indians, Calani.." (Book I:22).
The word Calani is derived from the Sanskirt Kalyani.
There is no such book as HISTORY OF THE JEWS by Josephus. A search in the index of The Works of of Josephus shows no reference to Aristotle in anything written by Josephus.
BigRabbit

Adelaide, Australia

#75858 Aug 17, 2014
Why do Jews kill so many children all the time?

Since: May 14

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#75859 Aug 17, 2014
JOEL wrote:
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Why skip to Joseph when the first Hebrew was his grandfather, Abraham, the pagan, who came from Ur or Chaldea?
So, since Abraham, the founding father of the Hebrews, came from outside the region that is now Israel thus the Hebrews are foreigners in the region and the native homeland of the Hebrews is Ur or somewhere in Iraq which is the original homeland of Abraham and his forefathers.
Because Abram was not Jewish until he arrived in the land of Israel and changed his name to reflect his belief. His progeny have become the children of Israel.

BTW, aren't Arabs from Arabia? Is that where Palestinians claim their ancestry is?

So who has the oldest claim and lived there the longest?

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#75860 Aug 17, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no such book as HISTORY OF THE JEWS by Josephus. A search in the index of The Works of of Josephus shows no reference to Aristotle in anything written by Josephus.
The work is called the Antiquities of the Jews

http://www.biblestudytools.com/history/flaviu...

Since: May 14

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#75861 Aug 17, 2014
BigRabbit wrote:
Why do Jews kill so many children all the time?
Only in the mind of anti-Semites

20,000 children have been murdered in Syria by Muslims and that doesn't register a blip.
BigRabbit

Adelaide, Australia

#75862 Aug 17, 2014
scirocco wrote:
<quoted text>
Only in the mind of anti-Semites
20,000 children have been murdered in Syria by Muslims and that doesn't register a blip.
"We only killed 400 babies but the other people killed more so don't look at us we are the eternal victims and murder less kids then the other people." Spoken by a Jewish Supremacist.

Grow up you idiot and clean up your own back yard first

Since: May 14

Location hidden

#75863 Aug 17, 2014
BigRabbit wrote:
<quoted text>
"We only killed 400 babies but the other people killed more so don't look at us we are the eternal victims and murder less kids then the other people." Spoken by a Jewish Supremacist.
Grow up you idiot and clean up your own back yard first
This is who you support…they seek death, why do care when they are assured of 72 Virgins?

HAMAS REJECTS 'FINAL' CEASEFIRE PROPOSAL:'DEATH FOR ALLAH IS OUR MOST EXALTED WISH'

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/16...
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75864 Aug 17, 2014
The original homeland of the dark skinned Hebrews is either Ur or Kashmir since the place Ur is found in both Iraq as well as in Kashmir and in fact the Ur of Kashmir has all the important archaeological evidences and geographical landmarks to corroborate the view that the Ur of Kashmir is more likely to be the place of origin of the pagan, Abraham than the Ur of Chaldea/Iraq.

LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75865 Aug 17, 2014
SANSKRIT ORIGIN OF HEBREW/IVRI:

1) Consider the word Bharata. This word is formed from the Sanskrit root ‘Bhara’, which under the sway of the rule of vowelization, may assume the form ‘Ibhar’,‘Iber’,‘Ibhray’,‘Ibhri ’,‘Ibri’,‘Ibrini’ etc. Words
which all have been equated with the term Hebrew.

2) Further discussion of the term ‘Hebrew’: Another meaning of the term Savitr (the Sanskrit form of the term Hebrew) is Brahmana. Now let us consider the word ‘Brahmana’. If the suffix ‘mana’ is removed
from this word, then it becomes ‘Brah’. Through time and usage this would give us the word,‘Habra’ which is nearer to the word ‘Hebrew’. Also that, both these words, written without vowel signs, would
give ‘BRH’ and ‘HBR’ respectively. The similarity is evident.

3) It is of interest to note another Sanskrit word,‘Vipra’(a synonym of ‘Brahmana’) in the same connection. The word ‘Vipra’ becomes ‘Ipar’ in colloquial Marathi. Now consider the word ‘Ipar’. This word may
assume the forms ‘Iber, Ibri, Ivri, Ibhray, Ibrani’ etc,- other forms of the word Hebrew.

CONCLUSION: This leads to the conclusion that the Hebrews, aside from other strong corroborative evidences, can be identified unhesitatingly with these Indian Brahmins who had
migrated from India in the very early dawn of the Vedic period.

Since: May 14

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#75866 Aug 17, 2014
JOEL wrote:
The original homeland of the dark skinned Hebrews is either Ur or Kashmir since the place Ur is found in both Iraq as well as in Kashmir and in fact the Ur of Kashmir has all the important archaeological evidences and geographical landmarks to corroborate the view that the Ur of Kashmir is more likely to be the place of origin of the pagan, Abraham than the Ur of Chaldea/Iraq.
LOL.
The ancestral homeland of Arabs is Arabia and everyone comes from Africa.

As a people Jews have the oldest claim to the land. Arabic wasn't a language until the 3rd or 4th century CE some 2000 years After Jews were already in the land of Israel.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75867 Aug 17, 2014
MORE ON THE HEBREWS AND ABRAHAM:

1) The drying up of the Saraswathi around 1900 BCE, led to a major relocation of the population centered around and in the Sindhu and the Saraswathi valleys, causing a migration westward from India. It is soon
after this time that the Indic element begins to appear all over West Asia, Egypt, and eventually, even Greece.

2) An Indian historian, Kuttikhat Purushothama Chon, believes that Abraham was driven out of India. He states that the Aryans, unable to defeat the Asuras (The mercantile caste that once ruled in the Indus
Valley or Harappans) spent so many years fighting covertly against the Asuras, such as destroying their huge system of irrigation lakes, causing destructive flooding, that Abraham and his kindred just gave up
and marched to West Asia. Therefore, besides being driven out of Northern India by floods, the Aryans also forced Indian merchants, artisans, and educated classes to flee to West Asia.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#75868 Aug 17, 2014
SANSKRIT MORPHS INTO HEBREW

1) Talmud (Written Jewish teachings) derived from the Sanskrit word TalMud-ra (Sacred teachings written on palm leaves)

2) Kippot (Skullcap worn by Orthodox Jews) modified form of Kaparda (Hair top-knot)

3) Yehudi (Jewish People) taken from Yutiya/Yah-Khuda (Name of an
ancient Indian tribe).

4) Since the proto-Semitic Tribes (the Yehudi) or the dark-skinned Hebrews left the Dwarka region, the original Sanskrit that they spoke has undergone considerable changes of pronunciation and an admixture of words, so what was Sanskrit 5,742 years ago is now Hebrew. Names of several places in the Levant where they finally settled can be matched to old Sanskrit names. By nature, the original Hebrews were dark in complexion.

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