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former res

Cheshire, CT

#71661 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.....HughBe---- As I understand it BABIES and the prepubescent are perpetual virgins over here, in Jamaica, but I accept that in America it is not so.....
Correct.

In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71662 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.....What is America doing about RELIGIOUS OPPRESSION in other countries starting with their CLOSE allies?....
Have we disappointed you?

Did you have any particular ally in mind?

Why not just say so?

Do think the US is so exemplary on human rights that we are in position to lecture others?

I don't.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71663 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
However, I do not support the corruption of the concept of marriage and I do not support the nasty habit of calling others HOMOPHOBIC when there is no FEAR or hate for your community.
You discriminate against gays. Hence you are homophobic. The end.

Definition of HOMOPHOBIA

: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
The act remains an ABOMINATION to God and He confirmed this when I last spoke to Him. However, the world is not a godly place so let your community be itself and let the righteous be righteous
If you believe your god spoke to you then you have voices in your head and need to see a head shrinker/psychiatrist.

You have yet to show me one shred of evidence that your so-called scriptures were written or dictated by god.

All smoke and mirrors so far.

Please prove me wrong. I dare you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71664 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.
HughBe---- As I understand it BABIES and the prepubescent are perpetual virgins over here, in Jamaica, but I accept that in America it is not so.....

Former---Correct.

HughBe---Are you really saying that in America BABIES are not virgins?:D

Recall, you said CORRECT.

Former---In America it is expected they will grow up and go forth and recreate and perhaps even procreate one day.

HughBe--- What will they be recreating? Here in tree-dwelling land the vast majority will grow up and procreate and when that happens they are no longer BABIES, prepubescent and VIRGINS.

Keep in mind that I said that BABIES and prepubescent are perpetual VIRGINS, in Jamaica. When these people reach the age of maturity WE do not call them BABIES. However, while they are yet babies and prepubescent they remain PERPETUAL virgins, here.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71665 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Have we disappointed you?
Did you have any particular ally in mind?
Why not just say so?
Do think the US is so exemplary on human rights that we are in position to lecture others?
I don't.
1. Why the material does not the US leave Uganda alone and STOP the SANCTIONS because of its laws on homosexuality.

2.Do you listen to the news over there?

3. I gave an example of one ally in one of my posts.

4. The US does not disappoint me because I have learnt about it from its own media and I do not expect neither morality, nor justice nor truth from it.
Eric

Medinah, IL

#71667 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Please reread my words below and at least make an attempt to relate to them on an intellectual level as clearly you cannot relate to them experientially.
Here they are again---Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years .....? I welcome back the Eric of old.
Note, I have helped you by simplifying via omitting the last part as clearly the now omitted part had contributed to your misunderstanding and utterance.
In essence, there was no personal attack. If you still insist that there was please explain to me how that works in your world. Explain to me how my saying that I had many years of pleasurable exchanges with Eric of yesteryear and my warm welcoming of him back to the forum is a personal attack.
Go right ahead.
HMMMM, you eliminate the offending words and then you ask where is the offense.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71668 Apr 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>HMMMM, you eliminate the offending words and then you ask where is the offense.
You CANNOT focus on ONE part of my sentence especially when a BIG word like OR was used in it.

Tell me the meaning of OR in my sentence.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71669 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
......Keep in mind that I said that BABIES and prepubescent are perpetual VIRGINS, in Jamaica. When these people reach the age of maturity WE do not call them BABIES. However, while they are yet babies and prepubescent they remain PERPETUAL virgins, here.
Yes, I had a feeling you were heading for a silly point like this.

Can we agree that babies do not remain perpetually babies?

Then they also do not remain perpetual virgins (except for Joel, but not by his choice).
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71670 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Why the material does not the US leave Uganda alone and STOP the SANCTIONS because of its laws on homosexuality.
2.Do you listen to the news over there?
3. I gave an example of one ally in one of my posts.
4. The US does not disappoint me because I have learnt about it from its own media and I do not expect neither morality, nor justice nor truth from it.
I think you are saying we are behaving as hypocrites.

Agreed.

When will we run through the surf on 7 mile beach, than have a cup of Blue Mountain Coffee in Negril, to be followed be a smoke of your mellow national herb?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71671 Apr 15, 2014
bi boys
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71672 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I had a feeling you were heading for a silly point like this.
Can we agree that babies do not remain perpetually babies?
Then they also do not remain perpetual virgins (except for Joel, but not by his choice).
HughBe---..Keep in mind that I said that BABIES and prepubescent are perpetual VIRGINS, in Jamaica. When these people reach the age of maturity WE do not call them BABIES. However, while they are yet babies and prepubescent they remain PERPETUAL virgins, here.

Former---Yes, I had a feeling you were heading for a silly point like this.

HughBe--- Tell me what is SILLY about the point. Do you disagree with my SILLY point?

Former---Can we agree that babies do not remain perpetually babies?

HughBe---YES but they remain perpetually virgins. Can we agree on this?

Former---Then they also do not remain perpetual virgins (except for Joel, but not by his choice).

HughBe--- Son, babies remain perpetual virgins. However, when they are no longer babies most lose that status. Is this hard to understand?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71673 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are saying we are behaving as hypocrites.
Agreed.
When will we run through the surf on 7 mile beach, than have a cup of Blue Mountain Coffee in Negril, to be followed be a smoke of your mellow national herb?
HughBe---1. Why the material does not the US leave Uganda alone and STOP the SANCTIONS because of its laws on homosexuality.
2.Do you listen to the news over there?
3. I gave an example of one ally in one of my posts.
4. The US does not disappoint me because I have learnt about it from its own media and I do not expect neither morality, nor justice nor truth from it.

Former---I think you are saying we are behaving as hypocrites.Agreed.

HughBe--- Double standards, lack of credibility and yes hypocrisy among other things.

Former---When will we run through the surf on 7 mile beach, than have a cup of Blue Mountain Coffee in Negril, to be followed be a smoke of your mellow national herb?

HughBe--- I shall inform my fellow Jamaicans what their NATIONAL herb is as they don't know it. Over the US you have a thriving business from the herb and on a scale that Jamaica could never replicate. What is the income generated from the herb again and compare it to corn.

We can do the beach and even the coffee but not the God-made herb as I have a FEAR of it and I mean that. So I fear the herb but I do NOT fear homosexuals and you should know this personally. Any fear would come about because your community wants to KILL me literally and figuratively. Otherwise they are people to me and so there are no fears on my side.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71674 Apr 15, 2014
later dears.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71675 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---Can we agree that babies do not remain perpetually babies?
HughBe---YES but they remain perpetually virgins. Can we agree on this?
No, they do not. Because they grow up.

And now you are being a moron. Mon.

Do puppies grow into dogs? yes

Now shxt the hell up.
Eric

Medinah, IL

#71676 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
You CANNOT focus on ONE part of my sentence especially when a BIG word like OR was used in it.
Tell me the meaning of OR in my sentence.
One cannot focus on one part of your sentence because you have joined the two thoughts with the word "or". "Or" in your sentence means the same thing that "or" means in any sentence. Either one thought, the other thought or both thoughts are true.[9th grade logic.] Since you have used the "or" you have said that the offensive portion may be true either on its own or in conjunction with the other portion. Further it means that the offensive portion was once true or still true.

It's amazing Hugh. I haven't been around for 4 months. I didn't even address you. I posted a Pesach greeting to Frijoles and we joked about taxes. I never addressed you even though you were on line for a long period of time. But, the first thing you say to me includes an offensive reference. Like I said, "Nothing has changed."
former res

Cheshire, CT

#71677 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
We can do the beach and even the coffee but not the God-made herb as I have a FEAR of it and I mean that. So I fear the herb but I do NOT fear homosexuals and you should know this personally. Any fear would come about because your community wants to KILL me literally and figuratively. Otherwise they are people to me and so there are no fears on my side.
Why do you fear the weed?

Seriously/ do you fear a bottle of Red Stripe beer?

You don't fear a cup of coffee? all drugs BTW . Same with cigarettes.

So why weed?

Is it irrational, like your belief in god?

And you are homophobic though you don't seem to like the label. It does apply my shiny friend/
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71678 Apr 15, 2014
HughBe---We can do the beach and even the coffee but not the God-made herb as I have a FEAR of it and I mean that. So I fear the herb but I do NOT fear homosexuals and you should know this personally. Any fear would come about because your community wants to KILL me literally and figuratively. Otherwise they are people to me and so there are no fears on my side.

Former---Why do you fear the weed?

HughBe--- Because I believe that in the given context it can make some people mad.

Former---Seriously/ do you fear a bottle of Red Stripe beer?

HughBe--- No and what is the link?

Former---You don't fear a cup of coffee? all drugs BTW . Same with cigarettes.

HughBe--- Indeed, they are all classified as drugs but they are not all the same. The beer does not occur naturally but the herd does.

Besides all drugs do not have the same side effects. Did you know this?

Former---So why weed?

HughBe--- I am weed-phobic.

Former---Is it irrational, like your belief in god?

HughBe--- It is as irrational as your belief that fire can burn you.

Former---And you are homophobic though you don't seem to like the label. It does apply my shiny friend/

HughBe--- Please do not leave out Jet-black when speaking about me as it adds beauty to the words.

The application of the words homophobic to me is dishonest, irrational and perverted as I am NOT afraid of homosexuals because of their homosexuality. I am not even against them stirring each others waste since it makes them HAPPY, so to speak.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71679 Apr 15, 2014
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>One cannot focus on one part of your sentence because you have joined the two thoughts with the word "or". "Or" in your sentence means the same thing that "or" means in any sentence. Either one thought, the other thought or both thoughts are true.[9th grade logic.] Since you have used the "or" you have said that the offensive portion may be true either on its own or in conjunction with the other portion. Further it means that the offensive portion was once true or still true.
It's amazing Hugh. I haven't been around for 4 months. I didn't even address you. I posted a Pesach greeting to Frijoles and we joked about taxes. I never addressed you even though you were on line for a long period of time. But, the first thing you say to me includes an offensive reference. Like I said, "Nothing has changed."
HughBe---You CANNOT focus on ONE part of my sentence especially when a BIG word like OR was used in it.
Tell me the meaning of OR in my sentence.

Eric--One cannot focus on one part of your sentence because you have joined the two thoughts with the word "or". "Or" in your sentence means the SAME thing that "or" means in any sentence. Either one thought, the other thought or both thoughts are true.[9th grade logic.]

HughBe--- Eric dear you have said that OR means "Either one thought, the other thought or both thoughts are true" but understand those 3 things are not the same. Note, you have failed to explain or give the meaning of my OR and so nothing has changed with you.

Having said that the OR in my sentence gives a CHOICE it is not your BS about "both thoughts are true" . See below for my challenging words.

Are you the Eric that I once had a pleasurable relationship with for a number of years OR (speaks to choice)are you still the more recent(ly) possessed Eric?

I welcome back the Eric of old.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71680 Apr 15, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
No, they do not. Because they grow up.
And now you are being a moron. Mon.
Do puppies grow into dogs? yes
Now shxt the hell up.
Former---Can we agree that babies do not remain perpetually babies?

HughBe---YES but they remain perpetually virgins. Can we agree on this?

Former---No, they do not. Because they grow up.

HughBe--- Dear when they grow up they are NOT babies. I am yet to see a baby that is not a virgin be it boy or girl.

Former---And now you are being a moron. Mon.

HughBe--- I am a moron because I KNOW that babies in Jamaica are virgins?

Former---Do puppies grow into dogs? yes

HughBe--- Having asked the question you should have waited for an answer and not open your trap and talk BS. Puppies do NOT grow into dogs as they are already dogs.

Former---Now shxt the hell up.

HughBe--- Why are you resistant to learning?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#71681 Apr 15, 2014
good night

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