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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69820 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe---Tell me, was Christianity spread from the West?

Read the quote below and share your views on it.
"Western culture itself was significantly DEVELOPED through the emergence of CHRISTIANITY as it was introduced in the Roman Empire in the late 4th century and evolved in the course of the European Middle Ages, and the term "Christendom" largely indicates this intertwined history.

Aegege---I have no clue where you have taken that quote from.
But Christianity hasn't brougt anyting posive into Europe - Christianity has killed mio's of people of scientists, pagans and people who knew how to think for themselfs.

HughBe--- So, in your opinion Christianity has not contributed positively to Europe. Did Europeans e.g. Columbus have as their aim to Christianize the rest of the world? If yes, did they do so to a large extent and were they the beneficiaries of the conquest of many countries? Let me give you an example, did Europe benefit from Slavery a byproduct of European efforts to Christianize etc.?

Aegege---Without Christianity Europe would have probably advanced 400 years further what concerns technology and science.

HughBe---Doubt it. The wealth gained from conquest catapulted Europe and its development.

Aegege--But unfortunatly people have still respected autoritites so much that we still today have a parasitic, war mongering political class that is hindering our freedom, they are enforcing copyright laws, they do protect the immunity of coporations, they collect taxes, they go to war,
They are a big hindrance in the medical industry for more deveolopment.

HughBe--- Noted. Copyright laws are of benefit to INDIVIDUALS and companies. I see nothing wrong with such laws. Do you think that you should author a book and get nothing from the millions that is generated from its sale?

In terms of your "parasitic, war mongering political class" it is my opinion that they are being used by the class with money to further its own interest.

Finally, you did not answer this, was Christianity spread from the West?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69821 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe----I do NOT HATE homosexuals.

Frijoles----No, you only think homosexuality is an "abomination". Thats not hate, thats really love.

HughBe----- Based on your words the God of Abraham and the patriarchs HATE'S you and many of your rabbis. So I am simply following His example. Curse Him and live, Frijoles.

Lesson: "You shall not lie down with a male, as with a woman: this is an ABOMINATION." The Complete Jewish Bible.

http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/9...

Frijoles----I really doubt you have any Jewish blood in you either. Your notions are too far out for any relatives to tolerate.

HughBe--- You lack the capacity to THINK and to assess people. I am the most honourable and honest person that you have ever encountered and shall ever encounter. Given your ejaculation, I now challenge YOU and ALL of your HOST to bet me on the matter. I am willing to do a DNA test that is to be done by JEWS only.

Finally, I shall repeat. I believe that YOU Frijoles are at least a bisexual and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic which is unlike your own position on the matter.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69822 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
Nothing, as a state that is devoid of everything, is an aberration of the actual state of existence preached by dumb creationists.
This absolute nothing can not even be imagined nor defined nor experienced.
If you still feel that an absolute nothing exists, define it and give me an example drawn from nature/life of creation ex nihilo.
The 1000 g of food that you eat will always remain 1000 g though its energy/matter content gets converted into other energy/matter forms which if you add up after collecting the bits that get scattered in all directions will always total up to the the same 1000 g.
The sum total of energy/matter in isolated system will always remain unchanged at all times though the form may vary.
Ok, Mon?
We had gone over this simple question a couple of years ago on the Allah thread, if you remember.
So, your notion of creation from nothing flies out of the window into the garbage bin.
HughBe: 1000-1000=1000

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Joel---Correct.

Nothing, as a state that is devoid of everything, is an aberration of the actual state of existence preached by dumb creationists.

Hugh--- If you have ONLY a $1000 and you give the $1000 to me, I want you to be assured that you still have money.

Case closed.

Much love, Mon.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69823 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
From an indestructible something (as explained in many of my previous posts).
Hugh----Put it this way, did the forces come from nothing or did they come from something?

Joel---From an indestructible something (as explained in many of my previous posts).

Hugh---- 1. So, the higher forces that you speak of are not the highest given that they come out from something. 2. What did the indestructible something come from?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69824 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, Professor of Science/CEO, I know that you're as "brilliant" as the other "geniuses" on this thread.
(smiles)
Hugh----As you see I too am brilliant.

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Joel---Yes, Professor of Science/CEO, I know that you're as "brilliant" as the other "geniuses" on this thread.

Hugh---Dear professor of "nuts" , I did not realize that you were at the same level of intelligence as those of the ilk of Frijoles.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69825 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
HUGH,
Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.
As far as hygiene is concerned, well, homos can always use condoms or avoid anal sex and stick to oral or whatever.
Similarly, straight men should always enter a clean vagina and wash after discharge, right?
However, from a procreative perspective, homosexuality is abnormal since it is sterile and so it cannot be a medium of procreation via sexual intercourse.
Joel---Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.

HughBe--- It seems that you have become a convert to the wrong way.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69826 Mar 20, 2014
former res wrote:
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Besides all of this, explain to me why a person like YOU who do NOT have Jewish ancestry is standing up for your IMAGINED persecution of Jews by me a person with JEWISH ancestry and one who is not ashamed of that ancestry.
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
.... In addition, I am NOT against anyone because of their race or religion and that includes the race of Jews, the religion called Judaism and its members Judahists, Muslims, Irish, English, Hindus you name it.
I have seen you giving Frijoles a very hard time over his religion and its link to his ethnic heritage. Very disrespectful of him, his culture, and his beliefs.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Having said all of that, let me be clear I am against LIES and DECEPTION. So if anyone or country is guilty of either LIES or DECEPTION......
You cannot call someone a liar if they are simply telling you about their religious beliefs.
Faith is belief without proof, so you are also on the same thin ice. Or shaky ground.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
...In addition, I do NOT HATE homosexuals. Now, with all sincerity I believe that Frijoles is at least a bisexual and the same applies to you and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic.
Did I say you hated gays? I called you a homophobe. Do you deny this?
You do not support their rights. You judge their behavior harshly in my view.
You say it is "my opinion" that homosexuality is "wrong." But then you say this opinion is "because of my religious beliefs." The second part negates the first part.
Your statements suggest that you are not in fact thinking for yourself but following the rules of your chosen clubhouse. Doing and thinking whatever they tell you.
Also many straight people engage in anal sex and it could be argued that sex itself, kissing, and any human contact transfers microbes from person to person. All very "unhygienic."
HughBe---explain to me why a person like YOU who do NOT have Jewish ancestry is standing up for your IMAGINED persecution of Jews by me a person with JEWISH ancestry and one who is not ashamed of that ancestry.

Former---First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

HughBe--- Son, do you understand what you wrote? NO.

Let me explain your words above, YOU are not Jewish and so YOU would be a part of those going for the Jews. Think about it, please. Take weeks if necessary.

Scenario, you are in a room with your grandmother, grandfather, uncles, aunts, cousins and other relatives. Now, someone has something against the family and wants to kill the entire family. Do you FEEL that you would escape being killed?

Now son, I have ALL of the above Jewish relatives BUT I am NOT a Jew. Question, do you FEEL that in such a scenario I would escape being killed?

Finally, you speak like a flocing ass.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69827 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Hugh--- If you have ONLY a $1000 and you give the $1000 to me, I want you to be assured that you still have money.
The $ 1000 is now with the other person. It has not become nothing.

Matter from one place can be pushed to another place and its mass still remains intact even though its location and form may have undergone a change.

Understand?

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#69828 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the plasma that you're referring to the quark-gluon plasma - the 5th state of matter?
That does not explain sentience either.
rabbee: sentience is dependent, on how it is encoded. much likened unto, a magnetic tape. how it is put together, arranged determines sentience. like a transceiver, if it is not put together in the right order it does not transmit or receive. and is why you can't just slop elements, of dna in a test tube and make it work. it has to have an specific order of arrangement, for it to work. sentience is by input, indicating intelligent design. the physical human body itself does not have sentience, without the interface to the casper. without the ruach inside of you, your body is dead.

with any out of body experience, your time to return is very finite. we are talking about something, beyond your ability to slightly comprehend. even i do not fully comprehend it, all i know is by actual experience in this area. my body does not continue to move around purposely, with sentience when my casper is not in it. the human human body by itself, does not have sentience. it has no idea i am gone it's the sane as dead, unless my casper returns in it. and i have never been out of my physical body, for more than 3 1/2 days.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69829 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

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2. What did the indestructible something come from?
The principle of conservation applied to an isolated system puts a stop to an irrational infinite regress.

Understand?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69830 Mar 20, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. Like cunnilingus and fellatio are not "unhygienic"?
former res------Also many straight people engage in anal sex and it could be argued that sex itself, kissing, and any human contact transfers microbes from person to person. All very "unhygienic."

Frijoles----Good point. Like cunnilingus and fellatio are not "unhygienic"?

HughBe--- 1. Former dear, there are 2 types of people who engage in anal sex and they are homosexuals and "straight" people like you. As you know "straight" means bisexuals.

2, Indeed it takes a practitioner of the REAR art to compare sucking a dick and a vagina to sucking an ANus.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69831 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
The $ 1000 is now with the other person. It has not become nothing.
Matter from one place can be pushed to another place and its mass still remains intact even though its location and form may have undergone a change.
Understand?
Hugh--- If you have ONLY a $1000 and you give the $1000 to me, I want you to be assured that you still have money.

Joel---The $ 1000 is now with the other person. It has not become nothing.

Hugh--- Clear unless it has been destroyed.

Joel---Matter from one place can be pushed to another place and its mass still remains intact even though its location and form may have undergone a change.

Understand?

Hugh--- Ok let me accept the science principle and say what is the source of the matter?

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69832 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Joel---Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.

HughBe--- It seems that you have become a convert to the wrong way.
There exist various expressions of sexuality with homosexuality being one of them.

However, in the context of the propagation of the human race, homosexuality is a failure for apparent reasons and so from the perspective of procreation homosexuality is abnormal.

Had all/most males been homosexual, the human race would have become extinct long ago or would be on the verge of extinction by now.

Aside from the fact of homosexuality being an abnormality in the context of procreation and the propagation of the human species, it is also wrong for a gay couple to adopt a child or to bring up a child fathered by one of the gays in a live-in relationship through invitro using a surrogate womb because a kid would be psychologically unbalanced being brought up in a gay household.

It's a perversion to subject kids to being nurtured in a homosexual household.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69833 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Joel---The $ 1000 is now with the other person. It has not become nothing.

Hugh--- Clear unless it has been destroyed.
If the currency note gets torn its mass would remain unaltered provided not a bit of the paper currency is lost but if the currency note is burnt its mass would again still be the same if one subtracts from the ash formed the mass of the oxides or whatever else would be formed as the compounded end-product of combustion.

Understand?

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69834 Mar 20, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Hugh--- Ok let me accept the science principle and say what is the source of the matter?
I said earlier that the principle of conservation in an isolated system puts an end to an infinite regress.

Didn't you understand what I said earlier?

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#69835 Mar 20, 2014
the woman is responsible for the physical production of the physical human body. it's still must acquire the casper, somehow to have sentience. the casper is not the product, of the male sperm and female egg. it comes from an external source, usually from the grave the place of sleeping caspers to the third and fourth visitations of TheTorah again.

and if you have never been true to G-D here in TheTorah, your casper is erased of all memory. generally to be returned, the very next Torot time from G-D. very few people are returned, more than once during the same Torah Period.

and you are never returned as anyone or anything else, but you here in TheTorah. you may choose to be a rat mentally, while you are here but not physically. if you wish to be the same ignorant idiot as, The Torot times before. that is your, choice. but if your casper is destroyed, you can never exist anywhere it's called oblivion. oblivion is the dead, dead, dead, forever gone dead. and right now, this world and your grandmother chaooah are on pretty shaky third Torot time.

and this world is so ignorant, you all can't even explain. why the word Torot is masculine for The His Story, and the word Torah is feminine for The Her Story.

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69836 Mar 20, 2014
Child needs the parental inputs from both father and mother in a loving atmosphere for healthy psychological/emotional growth.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69837 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
There exist various expressions of sexuality with homosexuality being one of them.
However, in the context of the propagation of the human race, homosexuality is a failure for apparent reasons and so from the perspective of procreation homosexuality is abnormal.
Had all/most males been homosexual, the human race would have become extinct long ago or would be on the verge of extinction by now.
Aside from the fact of homosexuality being an abnormality in the context of procreation and the propagation of the human species, it is also wrong for a gay couple to adopt a child or to bring up a child fathered by one of the gays in a live-in relationship through invitro using a surrogate womb because a kid would be psychologically unbalanced being brought up in a gay household.
It's a perversion to subject kids to being nurtured in a homosexual household.
Joel---Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.

HughBe--- It seems that you have become a convert to the wrong way.

Joel---There exist various EXPRESSIONS of sexuality with homosexuality being one of them.

Hugh--- Indeed and bestiality is another EXPRESSION of sexuality.

Joel---It's a perversion to subject kids to being nurtured in a homosexual household.

Hugh--- Offhand, I have no objection to your words.,

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69838 Mar 20, 2014
Mon, the Mini Monster. LOL.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69839 Mar 20, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
If the currency note gets torn its mass would remain unaltered provided not a bit of the paper currency is lost but if the currency note is burnt its mass would again still be the same if one subtracts from the ash formed the mass of the oxides or whatever else would be formed as the compounded end-product of combustion.
Understand?
Not under consideration.

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