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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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former res

Cheshire, CT

#69718 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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.....I can't say that all is well with me in view of the fact that I've never known peace, happiness and love in my entire life.....
I sincerely hope that you take steps each and every day of your life to attempt to meet these unfulfilled needs and wants.

Let us discuss the specific plan for today or tomorrow. Baby steps.

What do you say?
aegege

Tˇrshavn, Faroe Islands

#69719 Mar 18, 2014
Throw the isrealies out from Europe, ban christianity and fight against socialism. Then humanity will acheive freedom.

Jews (isrealites)
Christianity
And government.

They are the biggest enemies the west has for unlimited prosperity, peace and liberty.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69721 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Honestly, at times, I wonder how at your advanced age you manage all by yourself.
I am glad to know that all is well with you. More power to you.
I live alone in this huge apartment but unlike you I can't say that all is well with me in view of the fact that I've never known peace, happiness and love in my entire life.
Keep posting.
Take care.
Best Regards.
rabbee: and i just can't wait, for when i begin a family at the young age of 130. because HaShem G-D, promised for me and my assigned mate as chaooah a son. so nothing G-D would have me do here in TheTorah, could surprise me though possibly astonished the way G-D has it done. and if G-D commands me to walk on water, no problem i am ready for that too. so it is not by my power i am operating on, but that which is given to me from G-D. and since G-D does not lie, i must sadly live for 930 years according to scripture here in IT.

and as long as this world rejects being here in this physical story from G-D. then join the anti-peace club, where nobody shall have any real peace. since peace begins in the mind with G-D. though i am at peace with G-D, there is this hell and death all around me. so how can anyone ever have true happiness, in this world making everyone else their unhappy way trying to be happy.

as even moments of happiness, are delusional rare and fleeting. the most i can expect is to be at peace with myself, for not being part of this world against any real peace here in TheTorah again. in this world that has found normalcy in an acceptable level of collateral damage of hell and death.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69722 Mar 18, 2014
this world sure knows, how to make this story again from G-D. a lot worse than it really needs to be, here in TheTorah just really again.

as your delusions of not being here, in The Physical Story from G-D again. is defiantly going to result in G-D, giving us all hell for lying.

when G-D said, you shall not bear false witness here in TheTorah. THEY, were not joking around.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#69723 Mar 18, 2014
-Sprocket- wrote:
Tell me this: The Jews anticipate a spiritual-political figure? Christians believe the Christ saved his people mainly from the spiritual oppressors of sin and death.. The jews are still awaiting the messiah, christians believe that jesus of nazareth was the messiah.. So are nation believe's he has came, the jewish are still awaiting? Gnostics taught that jesus, was not really a physical person, since the body is evil, and that the old testament god, yahweh, who had created bodies and matter. Was really the devil.. The word god means infinite goodness, so nothing evil can come from it.. I personaly believe satan created what we see with our eyes.. But im no pro, im a young pup on search for the truth, thats why I enjoy this thread.. Love all, and peace to all.
The God of Israel is the living God and she will conquer and transcend death. Jesus is one of many dead gods. He's been dead for 2000 years. The true Messiah of the OT is alive on earth today and should make an appearance this year. Everything comes from God, evil and good. God created Satan (Adam). Our bodies are prone to the sins of the flesh. Spirits cannot sin. The final proof will be when God comes back from heaven with the entire host of heaven. Earth is called the "land of the living" and the God of Israel is alive.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69724 Mar 18, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE: Infinity - Infinity = Infinity !!!!

Hugh----Special. Now let us apply your formula to something else.

1000-1000=1000

As you see I too am brilliant.

Much love, Mon.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69725 Mar 18, 2014
aegege wrote:
Throw the isrealies out from Europe, ban christianity and fight against socialism. Then humanity will acheive freedom.
Jews (isrealites)
Christianity
And government.
They are the biggest enemies the west has for unlimited prosperity, peace and liberty.
Tell me, was Christianity spread from the West?

Read the quote below and share your views on it.

"Western culture itself was significantly DEVELOPED through the emergence of CHRISTIANITY as it was introduced in the Roman Empire in the late 4th century and evolved in the course of the European Middle Ages, and the term "Christendom" largely indicates this intertwined history.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#69726 Mar 18, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The God of Israel is the living God and she will conquer and transcend death. Jesus is one of many dead gods. He's been dead for 2000 years. The true Messiah of the OT is alive on earth today and should make an appearance this year. Everything comes from God, evil and good. God created Satan (Adam). Our bodies are prone to the sins of the flesh. Spirits cannot sin. The final proof will be when God comes back from heaven with the entire host of heaven. Earth is called the "land of the living" and the God of Israel is alive.
rabbee: are you trying to talk about, THE G-D of all known nations at mt seeanee with your way of lying about it? and what do you mean spirits cannot sin, while your casper in you is sinning? and what about the fallen angel spirits hasatan, baal hamolech, and halooseefer? so just what highly intelligent imbeciles, have you been monkey trained by? The Written Torah, given to the representative of all known nations, tells you all everything you need to know about being still physically here in IT today.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#69727 Mar 18, 2014
As I take my leave once again let me tell all the fellows a secret i.e. it is not everything that you enjoy doing you should do and this is so for a variety of reasons including propriety among other things.
aegege

Tˇrshavn, Faroe Islands

#69728 Mar 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, was Christianity spread from the West?
Read the quote below and share your views on it.
"Western culture itself was significantly DEVELOPED through the emergence of CHRISTIANITY as it was introduced in the Roman Empire in the late 4th century and evolved in the course of the European Middle Ages, and the term "Christendom" largely indicates this intertwined history.
I have no clue where you have taken that quote from.

But Christianity hasn't brougt anyting posive into Europe - Christianity has killed mio's of people of scientists, pagans and people who knew how to think for themselfs.

Without Christianity Europe would have probably advanced 400 years further what concerns technology and science.

It was all because of supressive governments who banned scientists from speaking their mind and governments who collaborated with Christianity and killed many people.

Yet today government is the same enemy to our freedom as it always have been.
In te 1800's there was industrial revolution and enlightenment period witch helped alot for people to respect human rights more, and people were beginning to have small revolts against the autorities.

But unfortunatly people have still respected autoritites so much that we still today have a parasitic, war mongering political class that is hindering our freedom, they are enforcing copyright laws, they do protect the immunity of coporations, they collect taxes, they go to war,
They are a big hindrance in the medical industry for more deveolopment.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#69731 Mar 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Having said all of that, let me be clear I am against LIES and DECEPTION. So if anyone or country is guilty of either LIES or DECEPTION then understand that I am not on their side. It does not mean HATE it means that I shall NOT be a LIAR and DECEIVER like them and I shall call a spade a spade.
Finally boy, I have JEWISH BLOOD relatives, so OF with your nastiness and LIES. In addition, I do NOT HATE homosexuals. Now, with all sincerity I believe that Frijoles is at least a bisexual and the same applies to you and I am NOT against you. However, it is my opinion that homosexuality is WRONG because of my religious beliefs and also because I deem the practice to be unhygienic.
No, you only think homosexuality is an "abomination". Thats not hate, thats really love.

I really doubt you have any Jewish blood in you either. Your notions are too far out for any relatives to tolerate.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69732 Mar 18, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>

I sincerely hope that you take steps each and every day of your life to attempt to meet these unfulfilled needs and wants. Let us discuss the specific plan for today or tomorrow. Baby steps. What do you say?
Thank you, Former.

For starters, how do I get rid of a certain energy field that's always hovering near the skin of my body especially near the face, throat, heart, solar plexus and lower abdominal regions that often gets so activated that it invades my nervous system leading to tremors, breathing problems, fevers, head ache and great mental distress?

This external energy field that envelops my body in far greater measure (ever since I left that evil guru) has been put on me by him to destroy my physical health, nervous system, mental stability and emotional calm. He told me once that were I to ever leave him he'd teach me the lesson of my life. He was controlling me via this occult influence even when I was with him but the adverse conditions were mostly missing or fewer in number/frequency then.

How do I get rid of this occult influence which no med/counseling can cure or hope to even understand?

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69733 Mar 18, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>

Earth is called the "land of the living" and the God of Israel is alive.
Everything is "living" if we consider consciousness developing in increasing intensity as the field of energy/matter gets into different states of organization beginning with the pre-Big Bang state.

So, consciousness, as an inherent phenomenon of the universal energy field, confers, in varying degrees, an awareness/intelligence on everything at all times and even before time could come into existence via the Big Bang.

On death, the bioenergy field lifts out of the body and if resilient enough it may exist independent of any body in the universal energy field or it could merge with the bioenergy field of a living being and continue its existence in that living form.

So, consciousness, as a phenomenon of energy/matter, will exist so long as energy/matter exists which as known will always exist in view of the principle of conservation.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69734 Mar 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
1000-1000=1000

.
Correct.

Nothing, as a state that is devoid of everything, is an aberration of the actual state of existence preached by dumb creationists.

This absolute nothing can not even be imagined nor defined nor experienced.

If you still feel that an absolute nothing exists, define it and give me an example drawn from nature/life of creation ex nihilo.

The 1000 g of food that you eat will always remain 1000 g though its energy/matter content gets converted into other energy/matter forms which if you add up after collecting the bits that get scattered in all directions will always total up to the the same 1000 g.

The sum total of energy/matter in isolated system will always remain unchanged at all times though the form may vary.

Ok, Mon?

We had gone over this simple question a couple of years ago on the Allah thread, if you remember.

So, your notion of creation from nothing flies out of the window into the garbage bin.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69735 Mar 18, 2014
Moses Kestenbaum ODA wrote:
Just don't mess with security of Israel or your fcked
Really?

Do you think if a person messes with the security of China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or the US, he'll get away? No way!

Till now Israel has been fighting the rag tag armies of its Arab neighbors and winning its wars (with Western support).

Do you think Israel can win a war with say China, India or Russia or can Israel hope to win a war with medium powers like say Turkey or Pakistan?

I don't think so.

Israel will be destroyed in a short time if it ever gets into a conflict (using conventional weapons) with most of the above-named military powers.

I speak of a conventional war which has a winner and a loser.

In a nuclear war, there are no winners if both sides possess nukes.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69736 Mar 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Put it this way, did the forces come from nothing or did they come from something?
From an indestructible something (as explained in many of my previous posts).

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69737 Mar 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
As you see I too am brilliant.

.
Yes, Professor of Science/CEO, I know that you're as "brilliant" as the other "geniuses" on this thread.

(smiles)

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69740 Mar 18, 2014
HUGH,

Homosexuality is a form of sexuality just as say some people are left-handed.

As far as hygiene is concerned, well, homos can always use condoms or avoid anal sex and stick to oral or whatever.

Similarly, straight men should always enter a clean vagina and wash after discharge, right?
However, from a procreative perspective, homosexuality is abnormal since it is sterile and so it cannot be a medium of procreation via sexual intercourse.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69741 Mar 18, 2014
It's not advisable for gay couples to adopt kids or to father progeny via invitro and to then rear these kids in a same sex household since for balanced psychological growth a child should be reared in a loving atmosphere where the inputs of both father and mother are indispensable provided the couple is compatible.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

Location hidden

#69742 Mar 18, 2014
From a procreative perspective, homosexuality is abnormal since it is sterile and so it cannot be a medium of procreation via sexual intercourse. The human race would have become extinct long ago had most men/all men been gay.

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