Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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former res

Cheshire, CT

#69399 Mar 14, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Don't scold me.
I didn't read your past comment advocating a ban on all religious symbols.
Don't yell at me, ok?
You can dish it but can't take it.

In my country, we might call you a puxxy.

[Think cat; I was censored by the man]

All due respect of course.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69400 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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You really need to get laid. Virtual reality is not real.
I'm sure that you're longing to go to bed with Hugh.

Inter-racial sex rocks!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#69401 Mar 14, 2014
former res wrote:
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You can dish it but can't take it.

In my country, we might call you a puxxy.

[Think cat; I was censored by the man]

All due respect of course.
You're also lusting after Hugh.

In your career as a male nurse, I'm sure that you managed to "paw" many male patients and enjoyed the experience.

Now, ask Hugh if he'll consent. I think he may knowing him.....

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#69402 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
...but I have never heard any Jew mention Satan as a external personification, except perhaps in some (but not all) translations of the Book of Job.
This guy must not have gotten the memo ;-)

Torah study is thriving like it did in the past,”[Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar] said.“The devil, jealous at seeing this, put it into the minds of some people to fight against the Torah.”

http://tinyurl.com/n3cwcuc

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69403 Mar 14, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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This guy must not have gotten the memo ;-)
Torah study is thriving like it did in the past,”[Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar] said.“The devil, jealous at seeing this, put it into the minds of some people to fight against the Torah.”
http://tinyurl.com/n3cwcuc
I meant, heard personally

However, note that you are reading a translation. He was speaking in Hebrew. In Hebrew there is no word for devil. He may have cited "hasatan" - or some other word like "yezter hara" - which puts his comment in line with my comment and wiki. The devil is in the details.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69405 Mar 14, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
Did you read the comments? Some very clueless people regarding the political situation, being answered by some very knowledgeable people. Who would think that so many Jews frequent that site?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#69406 Mar 14, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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This guy must not have gotten the memo ;-)
Torah study is thriving like it did in the past,”[Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar] said.“The devil, jealous at seeing this, put it into the minds of some people to fight against the Torah.”
http://tinyurl.com/n3cwcuc
Here is a modern day discussion thread on the subject of Ma'ase Satan (work of satan) in the Talmud. Gemora is part of Talmud
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http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/top...

For those who may be unaware, in Yiddishkeit, Satan is a tool of Hashem. As the Gemorah in Bava Basra says, Satan, the Yetzer Hara, and the Malach HaMoves are the same entity, and that Satan does his actions "Leshem Shomayim" (FOR THE SAKE OF HEAVEN)(or he at least claims to do so). This is opposed to Islam, where Shaitan is allowed to prosecute humans to test them, but does so from spite, and still has no independent powers.

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#69407 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
...The devil is in the details.
LOL. Good one.

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#69408 Mar 14, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Did you read the comments? Some very clueless people regarding the political situation, being answered by some very knowledgeable people. Who would think that so many Jews frequent that site?
Lots of atheists are Jews/Former Jews.

Aside from the devil quote, I refrained to comment on the topic as I'm unfamiliar with it (and quite honestly, don't care).
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69409 Mar 14, 2014
JOEL wrote:
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You're also lusting after Hugh.
In your career as a male nurse, I'm sure that you managed to "paw" many male patients and enjoyed the experience.
Now, ask Hugh if he'll consent. I think he may knowing him.....
Knowing you, I bet you wouldn't even give a fella the benefit of a reach-around.

Selfish prxck.

Now tell me I'm wrong about you. Why and how.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69410 Mar 14, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
This guy must not have gotten the memo ;-)
Torah study is thriving like it did in the past,”[Sephardi Chief Rabbi Shlomo Amar] said.“The devil, jealous at seeing this, put it into the minds of some people to fight against the Torah.”
http://tinyurl.com/n3cwcuc
And Satan is a Hebrew word, so didn't they invent him?

Of course I'm no biblical scholar...

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69411 Mar 14, 2014
former res wrote:
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Knowing you, I bet you wouldn't even give a fella the benefit of a reach-around.

Selfish prxck.

Now tell me I'm wrong about you. Why and how.
I don't like people touching me unless it's a fatherly or a motherly hug or a pat on the head coming from a caring elderly person.

You can barely conceal your lust for poor Hugh.

Don't turn your attention on me. Stick to Hugh.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69412 Mar 14, 2014
THE INTERNAL FOE - SATAN

There's nothing like an individual being called Satan existing out there as invented by the Christians who understand very little of reality on account of the flawed teachings of Jeebus, unless by Satan is meant a perverse internal urge or it could mean a distortion in the brain's electrical field that affects the balance of the brain centers of cognition and decision-making that as a result sets up impediments in a person's life or that makes him behave against his own self-interests or against the well-being of others.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69413 Mar 14, 2014
HELL - AN ABYSS

Likewise, hell as a place of torment is a Christian fabrication.

There isn't a spatio-temporal dimension called hell.

All that is fiction.

Hell symbolizes an abyss, a deep pit, or a state of forgetfulness that resides in one's own subconscious mind.

In my view, if the brain's electrical field with its persistent patterns of neuronal-generated sentience survives the death of the body then one of the poises it could take in the disembodied state is to turn on its own ignorance and fall deep into nescience which is an absence of knowledge or of awareness considering the fact that as a discarnate electrical field with a feeble residual sentience that's unattached to neuronal activity it fails to receive information brought to it by the nerve endings and as a result processing of information ceases and so the disembodied electrical field sinks into a state of "darkness" that's symbolical of falling into an abyss.

If, on the other hand, a dead person's disembodied electrical field merges with the energy field of a living person then it continues its existence in the living person and gets subsumed in the energy field of the living person but contributes its unique features that inhere in it and this input modifies the personality of the living person who's energy field has been intruded by a discarnate field of energy belonging to a dead person.

In many other cases, a disembodied energy field of a dead person simply scatters in the environment.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#69414 Mar 14, 2014
HELL - AN ABYSS

Likewise, hell as a place of torment is a Christian fabrication.

There isn't a spatio-temporal dimension called hell.

All that is fiction.

Hell symbolizes an abyss, a deep pit, or a state of forgetfulness that resides in one's own subconscious mind.

In my view, if the brain's electrical field with its persistent patterns of neuronal-generated sentience survives the death of the body then one of the poises it could take in the disembodied state is to turn on its own ignorance and fall deep into nescience which is an absence of knowledge or of awareness considering the fact that as a discarnate electrical field with a feeble residual sentience that's unattached to neuronal activity it fails to receive information brought to it by the nerve endings and as a result processing of information ceases and so the disembodied electrical field sinks into a state of "darkness" that's symbolical of falling into an abyss.

If, on the other hand, a dead person's disembodied electrical field merges with the energy field of a living person then it continues its existence in the living person and gets subsumed in the energy field of the living person but contributes its unique features that inhere in it and this input modifies the personality of the living person who's energy field has been intruded by a discarnate field of energy belonging to a dead person.

In many other cases, a disembodied energy field of a dead person simply scatters in the environment.

Since: Oct 13

Mount Washington, KY

#69415 Mar 14, 2014
I have seen Christ in Hell as a vision; your daughters shall prophesy in the last days.

I have also seen 2nd death and have seen the depths of corruption of those who are Jews, like myself but know and love Yeshua who has led them out of their corruption and I have seen the Christians who are graphed into the vine Yeshuas corruption who also depend on him for their deliverance.

But I will say in scripture Jesus said "But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. Matthew

Romans: As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#69416 Mar 14, 2014
Professor of Science (Hugh), where are you? On a date with your boy friend? LOL.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#69417 Mar 14, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't like people touching me unless it's a fatherly or a motherly hug or a pat on the head coming from a caring elderly person.
You can barely conceal your lust for poor Hugh.
Don't turn your attention on me. Stick to Hugh.
So I'm right about you then?

Not even the decency of a reach-around?

BTW, I've been called avuncular. And I'm caring and rapidly getting older.

And I do enjoy a good hug. So what do you say?

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69418 Mar 14, 2014
former res wrote:
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BTW, I've been called avuncular. And I'm caring and rapidly getting older.

And I do enjoy a good hug. So what do you say?
An avuncular hug is ok.

I know that you're caring, funny and lovable but don't "paw" while giving me your avuncular hug me since you're bound to get carried away by my good looks.

If the hug changes from avuncular to lustful then you get a cold rebuff or better still a karate kick.

Behave like an uncle at all times with me.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#69419 Mar 14, 2014
former res wrote:
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BTW, I've been called avuncular. And I'm caring and rapidly getting older.
If the hug is avuncular, I may be soothed and feel wanted since my mind, emotions and nerves are messed up.

I would like someone to comfort me and tell me that all will be well with me.

I want someone to care for me.

I can sense your avuncular concern and am comforted a wee bit.

I guess you're in your late 50s or early 60s.

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