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#67697 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
You are (lamely) trying to revise history to create a monolithic Christian tribe, with a shared history and a shared vision. Despite all evidence to the contrary. And you are connoting a sense of superiority to the group you are creating. A totally tribal behavior.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" - Thomas Jefferson, Treaty of Tripoli
From it's very beginnings, xtians were not a unified group. James and Peter (apostles of Jesus), headed the initial church after Jesus' death and focused their preaching strictly to Jews. Saul (who later changed his name to Paul), was a Greek speaking pharisee who converted to xtianity, but began teaching his own flavor of xtianity to gentiles, against the wishes of James and Peter. In addition, he invented all sorts of flavorful enhancements to the Jesus story, such as his divinity as well as his ultimate mission. Suffice it to say, there was a lot of tension and non-conformity amongst these early members. Modern day xtians like to gloss over a lot of these inconvenient truths.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67699 Feb 18, 2014
former res----Ohhhh......SNAP !!!!No you din't !!![sic]

HughBe---- Indeed he is sick. Frijole's head could not cope with the material and so it exploded and splattered all of its contents and that explains the foul stench.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67700 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Son, I never asked you to go on a Christian jihad. That was your idea entirely.
Explain your private concept of a Christian jihad.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67701 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" - Thomas Jefferson, Treaty of Tripoli
Please focus and do as you have been asked to do.

DECLARATION:
In matters of discipline I have borne in mind that its procedures/policies are put in place by the board independent of the executive management of the school . I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the procedures suited to it, but have left them, as the new board found them

TASK: Please explain ALL of the above as clearly as you are capable of doing
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67702 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
You are (lamely) trying to revise history to create a monolithic Christian tribe, with a shared history and a shared vision. Despite all evidence to the contrary. And you are connoting a sense of superiority to the group you are creating. A totally tribal behavior.
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" - Thomas Jefferson, Treaty of Tripoli
1. YOU changed the subject. Proof follows.

Note, below are the contents of YOUR post 67664 .

HughBe---That FACT underscores the SPECIAL place that Sunday or the Christian Sabbath has in American history and life.

Frijoles----Christian tribalism...that never ends well..

2. Explain your lesson for today.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#67703 Feb 18, 2014
E23Jer34 wrote:
<quoted text>
you are completly NUTS - I bet you rated my comments with the nuts.
BUT jesus christ you are real NUT. I bet you are one of the jews who claim that God gave "Isreal" to the jews!!!
You lying peace of shit who justify slavery.
The reason why Isreal was created was because the jews like Rothschild family got banking monopolies over Europe (long story - you can examine a movie on youtube called the money masters)
And the same Rothschild family wrote an contract with Balfour of UK to get Isreal.
Anyone can look that up.
Isreal wasn't a land given by you by God. You're God is 100% FICTIVE. Rothschild monopoly however is NOT.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
rabbee: nah! your comments are not even worth, the time it takes to rate them. and where in the hell do you even get the assumption that i might even remotely considered as a jew? who are you trying to insult here, the jews or me?

and bull schist, for the rest of your crap. and neither the rothchilds, jews, christians, muslems or other athiests are in charge of what happens here in TheTorah. and i do not care, if you can't figure out how G-D, is having it all done precisely as THEY say.

and i have bigger problems, than just Yesrael. cause i got this really bad feeling about G-D saying, this is "your world" to me.

and i do not care what you, wickedpedia, or baalfor say, all the land west of the river is Yesralee land for the alleged as jews. and it is not even, my country. your not G-D, so why should i pay any attention to you or what your evil says?

i only have to consider what G-D, came and said to me personally. and i am not going to listen to every on of you, lying, murdering, thieves, on this planet. if you want to disbelieve what G-D said, then be prepared to get more hell for it.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#67704 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles

Where did Huggy say Christianity is monolithic or unified?

What religion is?

That many stores are closed on Sunday, do you dispute that this has religious origins?

__________

Did you see Michael Dunn has called himself "the victim" in the situation of his own making? Wow!

Zimmerman created his situation too, and walked.

At the least the other guy will do serious time.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#67705 Feb 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
former res----Ohhhh......SNAP !!!!No you din't !!![sic]
HughBe---- Indeed he is sick. Frijole's head could not cope with the material and so it exploded and splattered all of its contents and that explains the foul stench.
Dear Huggybear

Definition of SIC

: intentionally so written —used after a printed word or passage to indicate that it is intended exactly as printed or to indicate that it exactly reproduces an original <said he seed [sic] it all>

Much love

former res

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#67706 Feb 18, 2014
E23Jer34 wrote:
<quoted text>
Jews shouldn't be in Governments. Once jews are banned from governments then we wound't have the troubles we have no.
it has nothing to do with you're ridiculous Jehoavah or Jesus - would you shut up about it.
the founding fathers warend against jews and christianity and they were right.
you've been nothing but pestilences since you've destroyed america with zionist christianity, big goverment, socialism and monopoly on americas money system.
Now Americans are losing freedom everyday while they are being sent to war against the arabs, unwillingly.
Do jews never feel shame??????????
rabbee: sorry but you are not, in charge of this world. and you do not dictate, your terms of surrender to me or G-D. and every horrible thing that happens on this planet, has to do with disbelief of G-D. and i do not care, whether it is yours or theirs or anyone else's.

and americans do not need any help destroying america. you've all got obama, to help you with this. i am not the cause of your problems, you all are. so do not even try to blame, any of this national antiG-D bs on me. and if you all piss G-D off any more, then you shall discover that global warming from G-D'S anger shall be the least of your tragic worries.

and since you do not feel any shame, why would you expect the jews to feel any different?

and you had better be worried, as to the reason why G-D is commanding america to be at war with anyone. and it sure isn't because you are a G-Dly brady bunch.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#67707 Feb 18, 2014
former res wrote:
Frijoles
Where did Huggy say Christianity is monolithic or unified?
What religion is?
That many stores are closed on Sunday, do you dispute that this has religious origins?
__________
Did you see Michael Dunn has called himself "the victim" in the situation of his own making? Wow!
Zimmerman created his situation too, and walked.
At the least the other guy will do serious time.
I dispute the claim that the founding fathers set up America as a Christian nation.

No religion is monolithic. Hence the religious freedom granted to all the sects. hence the motto "In God we trust" instead of "In Jesus we trust". A nod to the Deists, the "Israelites" and the "Mohammedans" of that period.

Huggy, the guy who wont even call himself a Christian, is imputing a degree of religious organization that was absent, in order to bolster his identity. During colonial times there were probably a dozen Christian sects, and at least half of them probably thought the other ones were not even Christian.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#67708 Feb 18, 2014
POST 67621
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Context is, America was established as a CHRISTIAN nation.
Nope. There were Christians within the developing nation, but as the quote from Jefferson asserts - the idea that America was established as a CHRISTIAN nation is false.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67709 Feb 18, 2014
Former res---Dear Huggybear

Definition of SIC
: intentionally so written —used after a printed word or passage to indicate that it is intended exactly as printed or to indicate that it exactly reproduces an original <said he seed [sic] it all>

HughBe---- Thank you for that information, I am now more informed. However, I stand by original words i.e.Indeed he is SICK. Frijole's head could not cope with the material and so it exploded and splattered all of its contents and that explains the foul stench.

Former---Much love, former res

HughBe--- Ditto

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#67710 Feb 18, 2014
Hughbe's Christian tribalism

67398
HughBe wrote:
As a matter of fact, I believe and I am saying/PROMOTING the idea that America and the other CHRISTIAN countries should wake-up to the reality of this world and TREAT people of ALL other RELIGIONS the same way that Christians are treated in those countries where those religions are followed by the MAJORITY, of religious persons.
Note, by treat I mean via the use of laws and so you would see such things as some religions being ILLEGAL in the US and elsewhere.
Do unto them as they HAVE done to you.
67426
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Observation, the fact that you have equated my words below to Jihad tells every HONEST person that you are a CRIMINAL.
My "Jihad" words which were taken from another post follows.
I believe and I am saying/PROMOTING the idea that America and the other CHRISTIAN countries should wake-up to the reality of this world and TREAT people of ALL other RELIGIONS the same way that Christians are treated in those countries where those religions are followed by the MAJORITY, of religious persons.
Note, by treat I mean via the use of laws and so you would see such things as some religions being ILLEGAL in the US and elsewhere.
Do unto them as they HAVE done to you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67711 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
POST 67621
<quoted text>
Nope. There were Christians within the developing nation, but as the quote from Jefferson asserts - the idea that America was established as a CHRISTIAN nation is false.
Please explain the following, Dr. Frijoles.

In matters of discipline I have borne in mind that its procedures/policies are put in place by the board independent of the executive management of the school . I have therefore undertaken on no occasion to prescribe the procedures suited to it, but have left them, as the new board found them

TASK: Please explain ALL of the above as clearly as you are capable of doing
former res

Cheshire, CT

#67712 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I dispute the claim that the founding fathers set up America as a Christian nation.
Agreed regarding the founding fathers.

Thought most of the settlers were Christian.
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
No religion is monolithic. Hence the religious freedom granted to all the sects. hence the motto "In God we trust" instead of "In Jesus we trust". A nod to the Deists, the "Israelites" and the "Mohammedans" of that period.
Sure. Also agreed.
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Huggy, the guy who wont even call himself a Christian, is imputing a degree of religious organization that was absent, in order to bolster his identity. During colonial times there were probably a dozen Christian sects, and at least half of them probably thought the other ones were not even Christian.
As we agreed, no religion is monolithic.

A lot of folks don't consider Mormons to be Christians. Does that make them not Christians?

I don't think so.

I consider their religion just as valid as any other!

;0)

A guy from NY went out west and started his own religion - what's wrong with that?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67713 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Hughbe's Christian tribalism
67398
<quoted text>
67426
<quoted text>
I stand by my "Christian tribalism" formerly "Christian jihad" as expressed below.

Judahite, tell me the problems that YOU and your religion have with my approach oh you chief Pharisee.

I believe and I am saying/PROMOTING the idea that America and the other CHRISTIAN countries should wake-up to the reality of this world and TREAT people of ALL other RELIGIONS the same way that Christians are treated in those countries where those religions are followed by the MAJORITY, of religious persons.

Note, by treat I mean via the use of laws and so you would see such things as some religions being ILLEGAL in the US and elsewhere.

Do unto them as they HAVE done to you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#67714 Feb 18, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Just cleared 5 inches of snow, but I think that included a little from the weekend when we were away.
Hoping that's it for a while. Looks like rain is coming.
Just cleared parking spaces lead to West Side shoving match

http://blog.ctnews.com/stamford411/2014/02/18...

(note the ending of the story)
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#67715 Feb 18, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
POST 67621
<quoted text>
Nope. There were Christians within the developing nation, but as the quote from Jefferson asserts - the idea that America was established as a CHRISTIAN nation is false.
Tell me when the Blue laws were repealed plus tell everyone the provisions of those laws.

Observation, you have AVOIDED answering the last part many times before so please surprise yourself and answer it now.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#67716 Feb 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I stand by my "Christian tribalism" formerly "Christian jihad" as expressed below.
Judahite, tell me the problems that YOU and your religion have with my approach oh you chief Pharisee.
I believe and I am saying/PROMOTING the idea that America and the other CHRISTIAN countries should wake-up to the reality of this world and TREAT people of ALL other RELIGIONS the same way that Christians are treated in those countries where those religions are followed by the MAJORITY, of religious persons.
Note, by treat I mean via the use of laws and so you would see such things as some religions being ILLEGAL in the US and elsewhere.
Do unto them as they HAVE done to you.
So if Christians are being persecuted in other countries they should persecute others in the US in return?

Why would you want to see some religions illegal?(that comment doesnt make any sense)
former res

Cheshire, CT

#67717 Feb 18, 2014
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.......Context is, America was established as a CHRISTIAN nation......
Sorry, Huggy. This is clearly wrong.

Founded by mostly Christians and a de facto WASP country, but not a "Christian nation."

First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof........."

The separation of church and state has been upheld by the courts.

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