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Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#66887 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
I just returned from a quick drive around the 'hood.
Saw a young lady at the bottom of a fairly long, steep driveway.
Her car was running with headlights on at the top.
She had just begun to shovel the 10 inches of snow we just got.
I was thinking how much gas the car would burn before she would be able to drive down the driveway.
She had at a bare minimum an hour of shoveling ahead of her.
Good exercise though.
rabbee: and you passed up another chance, to perform a great meetzvah? you are no, white knight in shining armor?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#66888 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
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But don't you have to shovel out your driveway?
I have a very small Honda and it took care of the 10 inches this morning ok.
Saved a helluva lot of shoveling heavy snow. I wouldn't want to be without it. Though obviously I'd survive. Hondas aren't cheap but this one's 14 years and still working very well. Starts on first pull just like Honda lawn mowers (and my old Honda 360 motorcycle fron high schoo)- though curiously I only drive Toyota cars.
Very heavy, wet snow can clog it but we're a few degrees cooler up here so it was still fairly dry - though not exactly powdery.(are we still talking about snow?:))
Lucky for us, we parked both cars on the driveway (our garage is too packed with stuff to park in). And our driveway is about the length of two cars. So nothing left to shovel. But to get to the driveway from the house is a whole different story. And then there is that nice compact 3 foot mound of snow, courtesy of the City, awaiting attention at our curb.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#66889 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
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See? Your vision. Just as I thought.
I feel so violated and cheap, even dirty now.
Would you at least buy me breakfast?(Not KFC.)
<quoted text>
Wow, you have KFC there? We don't even have it anywhere near where I live.
Do you get Extra Crispy?
Does your aversion to germs limit your intimate activities?
It seems that it could.
In my hood, you go to KFC at your own peril. And I dont mean the food.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66890 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Not necessarily.
We had a training specialist where I used to work who taught that "Practice makes permanent."
Only perfect if what you're doing is right and your are doing it perfectly.
For most folks though it just makes permanent what they are doing.
<quoted text>
Practice:
2. repeated exercise in or performance of an activity or skill so as to acquire or maintain proficiency in it. https://www.google.com/#q=practice+definition

I think of practice in a zen sense, as an end it itself, not a means to an end
former res wrote:
<quoted text>Never tried a chiropractor or acupuncture but would like to try both.
And I never talked to trees but have hugged them before... Giant redwoods at Muir Woods.
Any related experience is of course (and by definition) subjective. And some folks are more suggestible than others.
How about people who actually believe they have spoken to the dead or swear by astrology or swear they see Jesus in their toast.
Don't you think they believe just as sincerely as say, pantheists?
I would say yes and I have no problem with then as long as they dont try to legislate their beliefs on me, or work to degrade my religion or belief system.

Food for thought:
http://www.amazon.com/Plant-Spirit-Medicine-H...

Since: Jan 14

UK

#66891 Feb 5, 2014
IamJoseph wrote:
The truth is, America was founded by Jews [Columbus and all his mapsters were Jews], as a refuge for many - but also to save Christianity - from Europe. This is what Jews escaped from:
'BETTER TO DESTROY THEIR BODIES AND SAVE THEIR SOULS'- Isabela of Spain.
Thanks but no thanks. Please stop saving Jews.
Why do you think that Isabela of Spain is so relevant to this debate?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66892 Feb 5, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Rick M----No one hates Jeebus, he's mythical.
HughBe--- Both are LIES and I asked YOU about YOUR hate for Jesus. I personally don't think that Frijoles or Eric HATES my Jesus but I believe that YOU do and so WHY?
Now back to where it all started and please ANSWER this time, genius.
HughBe to Frijoles---Given your penchant for LIES and DECEIT I would never correspond with you but the LOVE of MY Jesus, the Messiah, in my heart makes me forgive you and talk with you.
Rick Moss---Just another example of of Jeebus screwing over the Jews again.
HughBe--- Now I said that your man or Frijoles has a "penchant for LIES and DECEIT".
I want you to PROVE me wrong and cite post # and quote my words that SUPPORTS his EVIL i.e. "You(HughBe) stated that reward and punishment was a DOMINANT theology of Judaism (not of the Bible, but of Jews like me) and used Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur as examples."
Please at least feign intelligence and make an attempt at answering appropriately.
Also how does LOVE in my HEART that leads me to FORGIVE him of his PROVEN LIES against me an "example of of Jeebus screwing over the Jews again. "? Explain, chief criminal.
Finally, I look forward to the day when the Jewish people rise up against criminals like YOU and charge you with crimes against humanity meaning the Jewish people. You and your kind have misled them, LIED to them and ENSLAVED them etc. Their biggest ENEMIES are people like YOU who are WOLVES among the sheep.
Would Jesus approve of that message?

I dont think so.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66893 Feb 5, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Nope. It's pretty slushy hear.
And like Frijoles, I now have a 3-foot mound of snow in front of my driveway to deal with, courtesy the city plows.
I can relate. Just got done doing driveway and sidewalk for 2nd time and as I'm heading in, a town plow comes by.....you know the rest - right back out in it.

They pushed way more snow onto the sidewalk than me or my Honda can deal with (or are willing to). I'm told they don't bother you for not clearing your sidewalks around here. Most people seem to walk/job in the street. Quiet street, not much traffic. Probably why we didn't get a good plowing until so late in the day.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66894 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Lucky for us, we parked both cars on the driveway (our garage is too packed with stuff to park in). And our driveway is about the length of two cars. So nothing left to shovel. But to get to the driveway from the house is a whole different story. And then there is that nice compact 3 foot mound of snow, courtesy of the City, awaiting attention at our curb.
How about a flame thrower?

My sister has this nice house with a two-car attached garage and same story. No room for the cars!

The wife and I lived in the city for so long with no garage (or driveway) that when we finally got one I was determined to use it. So the crap ends up anywhere but the garage.

I wish had a bigger garage so I could have crap AND cars in it!
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66895 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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In my hood, you go to KFC at your own peril. And I dont mean the food.
If you mean the one a block or so up from the good Mexican take out place (which I still mean to try, I picked up their menu)- I know what you mean.

That's the one we go to when mom gets in the mood for KFC. Though lately she's been doing Boston Chicken which is in OG and safer hood.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66896 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Practice:
2. repeated exercise in or performance of an activity or skill so as to acquire or maintain proficiency in it. https://www.google.com/#q=practice+definition
I think of practice in a zen sense, as an end it itself, not a means to an end
<quoted text>
I would say yes and I have no problem with then as long as they dont try to legislate their beliefs on me, or work to degrade my religion or belief system.
Food for thought:
http://www.amazon.com/Plant-Spirit-Medicine-H...
I was thinking of someone practicing their golf swing. Say you picked up some bad habits and so were just doing it incorrectly, over and over again.. You're practicing, but your only making your bad habits more permanent. Not necessarily getting any better at golf.

Who's trying legislate their beliefs onto anyone else. Missionaries do their thing but spreading the word is part of the faith. Anyone is free to ignore them as you would Fuller brush salesman.

Would making fun of Jesus be considered degrading someone's religion?(not saying you did that) I agree. I try not to do that but sure I have slipped from time to time.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66897 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I was thinking of someone practicing their golf swing. Say you picked up some bad habits and so were just doing it incorrectly, over and over again.. You're practicing, but your only making your bad habits more permanent. Not necessarily getting any better at golf.
Thats why you always need a teacher or mentor.

Thats also probably partially why Joel is such a psycho case. Meditate on your own at your own peril.(Twice today with that word!). Easy to get lost. and then lost. and then lost....
former res wrote:
<quoted text>Who's trying legislate their beliefs onto anyone else. Missionaries do their thing but spreading the word is part of the faith. Anyone is free to ignore them as you would Fuller brush salesman.
Would making fun of Jesus be considered degrading someone's religion?(not saying you did that) I agree. I try not to do that but sure I have slipped from time to time.
I am thinking about legislating marriage inequality, legislating the lack of reproductive freedom, and the mandate to teach creationism, for a start.

I have no problem making fun of Moses or the Jewish cartooned "God". No insecurity, and not done in meanness. I could see myself doing the same, and I have, with Jesus. But the crap that gets spewed from Huggies fingers crosses that line for me. Its hate, not humor or sarcasm.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66898 Feb 5, 2014
To Hughbe (and anyone else interested)

For Some Believers Trying To Connect With Jesus, the Answer Is To Live Like a Jew
The Torah-observant gentiles of the Hebrew Roots movement get circumcised, lay tefillin, and grow peyos

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-reli...

These are non-Jews who have no intention of converting to Judaism yet follow laws, customs, beliefs, and practices commonly associated with Judaism. And while they do believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and the messiah—though in these circles he goes exclusively by his Hebrew name, Yeshua—they are emphatically not Christian. They do not celebrate Christmas or Easter. They do celebrate Passover and Sukkot. They do not display, either in their homes or as jewelry, crosses or other traditional Christian symbols. They do, however, wear Stars of David and post mezuzahs on their doors....

.... Followers of Hebrew Roots believe that Christian practice has been, over the last two millennia, corrupted by pagan influences and like to say that they’re aiming for a pure, first-century version of their religion. In other words, they want to understand and observe the Torah the way they believe their messiah Yeshua did. Words like “restoration,”“revive,”“roots, ” and “renew” are used a lot.....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66899 Feb 5, 2014
I might note that First Century Judaism, was Rabbinic Judaism.

I look forward to Hughbe growing peyot, wearing tzit tzit, and laying Tefillin. But please dont invite me to your bris.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#66900 Feb 5, 2014
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: and you passed up another chance, to perform a great meetzvah? you are no, white knight in shining armor?
accepting money for a good deed, tarnishes the shining armor.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66902 Feb 5, 2014
former res wrote:
I just returned from a quick drive around the 'hood.
Saw a young lady at the bottom of a fairly long, steep driveway.
Her car was running with headlights on at the top.
She had just begun to shovel the 10 inches of snow we just got.
I was thinking how much gas the car would burn before she would be able to drive down the driveway.
She had at a bare minimum an hour of shoveling ahead of her.
Good exercise though.
Question, if it was a young man would you have offered to help him? In any event you could have helped her if you were able to do so. It would not be an investment in your case it would be charity.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66903 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles----Would Jesus approve of that message?

HUghBe---- Yes. Jesus approves of TRUTH. On second thought, perhaps He would not approve of my comment that YOU don't HATE Him.

Frijoles---I dont think..

HughBe--- Nothing new.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66904 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
To Hughbe (and anyone else interested)
For Some Believers Trying To Connect With Jesus, the Answer Is To Live Like a Jew
The Torah-observant gentiles of the Hebrew Roots movement get circumcised, lay tefillin, and grow peyos
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-reli...
These are non-Jews who have no intention of converting to Judaism yet follow laws, customs, beliefs, and practices commonly associated with Judaism. And while they do believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and the messiah—though in these circles he goes exclusively by his Hebrew name, Yeshua—they are emphatically not Christian. They do not celebrate Christmas or Easter. They do celebrate Passover and Sukkot. They do not display, either in their homes or as jewelry, crosses or other traditional Christian symbols. They do, however, wear Stars of David and post mezuzahs on their doors....
.... Followers of Hebrew Roots believe that Christian practice has been, over the last two millennia, corrupted by pagan influences and like to say that they’re aiming for a pure, first-century version of their religion. In other words, they want to understand and observe the Torah the way they believe their messiah Yeshua did. Words like “restoration,”“revive,”“roots, ” and “renew” are used a lot.....
My circumcision is of the heart. I agree with most of their beliefs.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66905 Feb 5, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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My circumcision is of the heart. I agree with most of their beliefs.
Actually you dont,. You spend your time here despising Rabbinic Judaism. And you constantly attempt to redefine what it is to be a Jew.

The Christians in this article try to follow Halacha. And they not only do they not spend any effort redefining what it means to be a Jew, they actually embrace the notion of Jewish identity without imposing themselves on to it, and to boot they do not follow "replacement theology".

Basically, they are everything you are not. But all you should be, if you ever intended to be consistent. You should join them.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#66906 Feb 5, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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...You should join them.
Maybe not ... I know I'm a lot more comfortable with him being a Jew-hating, whack-job who is confined by crippling Agoraphobia to the Internet as his only source of human interaction. And I'm sure, if you really think about it, so are you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66907 Feb 6, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Maybe not ... I know I'm a lot more comfortable with him being a Jew-hating, whack-job who is confined by crippling Agoraphobia to the Internet as his only source of human interaction. And I'm sure, if you really think about it, so are you.
Yeah, but the idea of adult circumcision makes it all worthwhile. As long as I dont have to be there.

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