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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66377 Jan 25, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
How cute
It thinks it has actual unanswered questions
Sh.. has reminded me that in its world there are no rooms for truth and a brain. It explains its religious affiliation.
Simon

Nairobi, Kenya

#66378 Jan 25, 2014
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#66379 Jan 25, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
How cute
It thinks it has actual unanswered questions
IT cannot distinguish between unanswered questions and those answered but which IT doesn't like the answers.

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#66381 Jan 25, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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IT cannot distinguish between unanswered questions and those answered but which IT doesn't like the answers.
Thank you for beating me to the punch.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66383 Jan 25, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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IT cannot distinguish between unanswered questions and those answered but which IT doesn't like the answers.
Typical SHI., unanswered means just that it does not mean a typically idiotic answer.

Do you want PROOF?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66384 Jan 25, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Thank you for beating me to the punch.
One FLOCKER supporting a FELLOW flocker, in his LIES and DECEPTION.

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#66385 Jan 25, 2014
It gets angry too. How cute.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66386 Jan 25, 2014
Eric--- To be a Hebrew one has to be a DESCENDANT of Hebrews. It has nothing to do with religion.

Are JEWS Hebrews? YES.
And out of the horses mouth "It has NOTHING to do with RELIGION(Judaism).

Case closed.

2869

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#66387 Jan 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Typical SHI., unanswered means just that it does not mean a typically idiotic answer.
Do you want PROOF?
Explain how Jesus was a Jew and a blood descendant of David.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66388 Jan 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Greetings Always, a fellow, how are things at your "end"?
You still owe me a response from page 2994, unless
you are surrendering to my logic.(Post 66363 - You can't miss. It
glows with truth and wisdom!)

I accept your always inevitable surrender and apologies.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#66389 Jan 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
Eric--- To be a Hebrew one has to be a DESCENDANT of Hebrews. It has nothing to do with religion.
Are JEWS Hebrews? YES.
And out of the horses mouth "It has NOTHING to do with RELIGION(Judaism).
Case closed.
2869
Then explain Sammy Davis Junior.

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#66390 Jan 26, 2014
I believe I had a few conditions for a surrender too, but I am too lazy to scroll back. I would settle for an apology and an assertion that all missionary behavior and rhetorical questioning will cease.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#66391 Jan 26, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
I believe I had a few conditions for a surrender too, but I am too lazy to scroll back. I would settle for an apology and an assertion that all missionary behavior and rhetorical questioning will cease.
rabbee: very seldom does wishful thinking and reality, meet successfully.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66392 Jan 26, 2014
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Explain how Jesus was a Jew and a blood descendant of David.
COR---Explain how Jesus was a .. blood descendant of David.

HughBe----
Step 1--- Did Jesus have Gentile blood? NO
Step 2--- Was Mary a Jew? YES
Step 3--- Was Mary a JEW with David's bloodline? YES
Step 4--- Was Mary Jesus' BIOLOGICAL mother? YES
Step 5--- Given that Mary was Jesus' BIOLOGICAL mother He must have had her JEWISH chromosomes thus making Him a Jew.
Step 6-- Understand this basic science. All persons not including Adam, Eve and Jesus have Chromosomes from TWO parents.

When a Jewish man or woman copulates with persons of other races that man or woman will only provide 1/2 of the chromosomes to make a child. The other 1/2 is provided by the other donor whoever s/he may be.

So then although a father makes one a Jew, by reason of IMPUTATION, if that father had a child with a Gentile then the child shall ALWAYS have Jewish BLOOD or chromosomes. This is a SCIENTIFIC FACT. The same goes for a Jewish woman and a non-Jewish spouse.

However, the Jewish IDENTITY is ASCRIBED based on the MALE or father of the SEED/child. The use and emphasis on genealogy by Jews speaks to this FACT as well.

To underscore the point and truth of that which I speak, look at the behaviour of the 4 most EXALTED Jews, they ALL had non-Jewish wives. Why? Thy knew that the IDENTITY of their children was determined by them as the FATHERS. Moses married a Midianite and an Ethiopian woman, David married a non-Jew, Boaz married Ruth a non-Jew and I need not mention King Solomon.

Moreover, the point is underscored by the commandment of God in the Torah.

"When you(male JEW) wage war against your enemies and the Lord hands them over to you and you take prisoners, if you see among the captives a beautiful WOMAN, and you fall in love with her and take her as your wife," Deuteronomy 21

In the passage the MALE marries a non-Jew. Let no one LIE about conversion; the passage does not speak in those terms and it is DISHONEST to believe that you could conquer any group of people and the women would convert. Note, not even the ISRAELITES were CONVERTED from their pagan ways.

Step 7-- The Genes of the father are esteemed ABOVE the genes of the mother but the child has both sets of genes and not even in ancient times would people deny that a child is the product of both parents. Now, in the case of Jesus the Christ, He had the genes of His mother. There are no genes from any father Jewish or otherwise and so there is no male genes that can be ESTEEMED above that of Mary. The genes of Mary then serves to give Jesus His Jewish IDENTITY as there is not another set of human genes to make it otherwise.

COR---Explain how Jesus was a Jew ....

HughBe--- see above.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66393 Jan 26, 2014
former res wrote:
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Then explain Sammy Davis Junior.
Former---Then explain Sammy Davis Junior.

HughBe---- Let me use the words of a JEW or Eric to answer or explain it to you. Please read with understanding.

Eric---"Being Semitic has NOTHING to do with religion."

HughBe---Sammy was NOT Semitic and so was NOT Jewish or Semitic.

Eric---"Being a Muslim is being a member of Islam, a religion"

HughBe--- Sammy was a member of Judaism, a religion, and this "has NOTHING to do with" being Jewish or Semitic.

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Denver, CO

#66394 Jan 26, 2014
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Then explain Sammy Davis Junior.
HughBe---- Let me use the words of a JEW or Eric to answer or explain it to you. Please read with understanding.
Eric---"Being Semitic has NOTHING to do with religion."
HughBe---Sammy was NOT Semitic and so was NOT Jewish or Semitic.
Eric---"Being a Muslim is being a member of Islam, a religion"
HughBe--- Sammy was a member of Judaism, a religion, and this "has NOTHING to do with" being Jewish or Semitic.
rabbee: becoming alleged jewish, is by conversion only. everyone at mt seeanee, were all converts. being eevareem, is by linage only. the alleged term jew, applies to the multitudes that left egypt. all religion is determined, by the g-d/s they believe in.

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#66395 Jan 26, 2014
Thats all interesting and everything, but there is no evidence presented that Mary was a descendant of David.

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#66396 Jan 26, 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jes...

The genealogy of Jesus is described in two passages of the New Testament: in the Gospel of Luke and the Gospel of Matthew. Matthew's genealogy commences with Abraham and then from King David and his son Solomon through the legal line of the kings via Jeconiah to Joseph. Luke gives a different genealogy, going back to the mythical Adam, through Nathan, a minor son of David, and again to Joseph.

Both gospels state that Jesus was fathered, not by Joseph, but by God, being born to Mary through a virgin birth. At the same time they claim a direct descent from David, and thus a legal inheritance of the throne. The lists are identical between Abraham and David, but differ radically from that point onward. Traditional Christian scholars have put forward various theories that seek to explain why the lineages are so different, such as that Matthew's account follows the lineage of Joseph, while Luke's follows the lineage of Mary.

Many Biblical scholars tend to see these genealogies as inventions, conforming to Jewish literary convention.[1][2]

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#66397 Jan 26, 2014
In other words, they made the sht up
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66398 Jan 26, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
Thats all interesting and everything, but there is no evidence presented that Mary was a descendant of David.
Thank you and I am glad that you have found it interesting and I might add FACTUAL.

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