Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#66044 Jan 16, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Chicken and the egg isn't even up for debate. Eggs predate birds on the evolutionary chain by millions of years.
rabbee: oh you believe in, that scientific myth from your scientific g-ds?

when TheTorah is most specific, that G-D made the chicken first, then divided them into rooster and hen, to give with seed and egg.

and every time G-D gives the whole seven day Torah Cycle, it is always precisely 6818 man years long. and this time again in TheTorah, shall also precisely be 6818 man years.

The G-D of only and always TheTorah, does not ever lie. no matter how many scientific liars you have, as the enemy of G-D saying otherwise.

Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#66045 Jan 16, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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although generally I have been avoiding you, I will drop in for a quick note.
We are using a bastardization of Hebrew here (i.e. Hebrew using English letters to approximate the phonetics of the Hebrew alphabet). So all types of misunderstandings abound here since there are all kinds of transliteration mistakes.
Give me the Hebrew with the actual Hebrew alphabet and I will not be mistaken. Unfortunately this is not possible with Topix.
rabbee: there is no vowel i in eevreet, so it is not even a legal eevreet word. neither is the german word hebrew eevreet, there is no english w sound in eevreet. as in german the w, is pronounced like the english and eevreet v. so it should be a minimum written as hebrev in english to be more correct. without mention that some people, do not know the eevreet bet from vet.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#66046 Jan 16, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Au contraire, the image of "Santa" -- a Saint -- has been around for a long time. He's been part of the Xtian rebranding of Saturnalia since 1600 or befor (I'm pretty sure that even predates the Coca Cola Corporation -- citation needed).
St Nicholas, Sinterklaas, Tomte, Father Xmas ... all incarnation of the same person. Like Doctor Who with a sleigh instead of a TARDIS.
The good folks at Coca Cola have been using his image since the '20s and have probably done more to canonize his image as the morbidly obese, flamboyantly dressed, elf molester that we have come to know and love. But, they didn't invent him or his likeness.
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

I actually knew that, but I was focused on the popular image as promulgated by the CCC. Not sure, but I think that the earliest version goes back to somewhere around the 6th century or so.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#66047 Jan 16, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Why would you want to attract deer?
Lazy hunters?
Frijoles wrote:
Most people I know want to rid themselves of them.
This winter has barely even started...hold on your hat...
Eat lots of venison, then urinate around the property line. Or just hunt them as they show up!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66048 Jan 16, 2014
former res wrote:
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Key word WERE.
They then became the earliest Christians.
Jews don't believe in JC. Religion 101.
What do you see as the difference between Jews and Christians? Anything at all?
As an aside, have you joined NAMLA yet?
HughBe--- The xians who wrote the NT were JEWS.

Former---Key word WERE.

HughBe--- Correct in terms of being able to IDENTIFY one of the key words. You are incorrect in terms of your UNDERSTANDING of how the word was used. Let me explain it to you. WERE was used because because they are ARE dead.

Former----They then became the earliest Christians.

HughBe-- Correct as they followed their Jewish Messiah.

Former---Jews don't believe in JC. Religion 101.

HughBe--- What a DUNCE you are. Did you not understand what was said above? NO. Jews BELIEVED in Jesus the Jew.

Former---What do you see as the difference between Jews and Christians? Anything at all?

HughBe--- RACE. The RACE called Jews are BIOLOGICAL relatives and they can believe anything and their beliefs will NEVER change their ANCESTRY. Study it as clearly you are a VICTIM of the LIES and DECEPTION of rabbis.

Former---As an aside, have you joined NAMLA yet?

HughBe--- I am not a club member. In any event I would not fit in unlike you.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#66049 Jan 16, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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Winter Does Not Disprove Global Warming
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_scie...
1. Statements about climate trends must be based on, er, trends. Not individual events or occurrences. Weather is not climate, and anecdotes are not statistics.
2. Global warming is actually expected to increase “heavy precipitation in winter storms,” and for the Northern Hemisphere, there is evidence that these storms are already more frequent and intense, according to the draft U.S. National Climate Assessment.
3. Antarctica is a very cold place. But global warming is affecting it as predicted: Antarctica is losing ice overall, according to the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. However, sea ice is a different matter than land-based or glacial ice. Antarctic sea ice is increasing, and moreover, the reason for this may be climate change!(For more, read here.)
Finally, just one last thing: When it’s winter on Earth, it’s also summer on Earth ... somewhere else. Thus, allow us to counter anecdotal evidence about cold weather with more anecdotal evidence: It’s blazing hot in Australia, with temperatures in some regions set to possibly soar above 120 degrees Fahrenheit in the coming days.
Anecdotal evidence: So Cal is experiencing summer like weather this week, with temps in the 80's.

The better evidence for climate change is the fact that we are experiencing a couple of wildfires in the hills, in the middle of what SHOULD be the rainy season. The hills are summer brown rather than winter green.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66050 Jan 16, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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although generally I have been avoiding you, I will drop in for a quick note.
We are using a bastardization of Hebrew here (i.e. Hebrew using English letters to approximate the phonetics of the Hebrew alphabet). So all types of misunderstandings abound here since there are all kinds of transliteration mistakes.
Give me the Hebrew with the actual Hebrew alphabet and I will not be mistaken. Unfortunately this is not possible with Topix.
Excuse is noted.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66051 Jan 16, 2014
Former dear, I shall ask you to explain a few passages for me on the topic of Just who is a Jew. If you cannot explain the passages, which will expose the LIES and the DECEPTION of the rabbis, get the BRIGHTEST of the SAGES of Judaism to do so or to engage me on this forum.

The DECEPTION and enslavement must END.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66052 Jan 16, 2014
Former---As an aside, have you joined NAMLA yet?

HughBe--- Are you eyeing your neighbour's 6-year-old son? Double trouble.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#66053 Jan 16, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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FR:
minchag means custom/tradition, in contrast to Jewish law.
Absolutely right. There is a custom to write G-d in English, but no halachic requirement. Particularly on an electronic medium which can't be physically desecrated.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#66054 Jan 16, 2014
MAAT wrote:
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just butting in
Minchag is not a Hebrew word. Minhag is tradition in the sense of "something that people do regularly". Minhag also translates to "habit".
You're correct, my transliteration module is on the fritz.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66055 Jan 16, 2014
Rick Moss wrote:
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Absolutely right. There is a custom to write G-d in English, but no halachic requirement. Particularly on an electronic medium which can't be physically desecrated.
yep. Last week FR and I went deep into that explanation - he wanted to know why Jews can say God but not write it. It is not my custom to write it as G-d, so normally I dont, unless I am trying to be emphatic about something here.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#66059 Jan 16, 2014
Former---What do you see as the difference between Jews and Christians? Anything at all?

HughBe---- What a profoundly intelligent question. Note, I have already answered this question in a previous post but now I am asking you to answer it by telling me the differences between a Jew and a Christian.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#66066 Jan 16, 2014
HUGH'S MUMBO JUMBO GOD:

Hugh, an incorrigible religious fanatical like many others here, says that his God is all goodness. Yet, this very God of goodness has ordered genocides, rape of captive female slaves, stoning to death disobedient sons, cannibalism, bashing babies against rocks, getting apostates killed and cursing those who found/find fault with his commands.

This the so-called God of goodness that Hugh worships behaves more like a monster than a God.

There are many such Gods in the pantheon of religions.

Besides, good and bad are the interconvertible aspects of one causal law and so to talk of good without accounting for bad would leave a question mark on the law of causation.

Facing this challenge, a devil was introduced by many religions to account for bad.

So, what's the causal connection between good and bad?

Are they 2 independent entities?

If so, how do they exist independent of each other when it's evident that underlying all diversity is unity and causation at work?

Even if some persons argue that "bad" is present on account of "disobedience" then, too, their belief fails for to account for "disobedience" which cannot exist independent of good (like light and shadow) since one has to factor the capacity for "disobedience" or the capacity to twist good into the system which in this case is God.

Finally, Hugh's God is said to have created the universe (energy, matter and consciousness) from nothing. I wonder how this is possible. LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#66067 Jan 16, 2014
God or Gods are simply so many temporary formations of energy with each having an innate degree of intelligence found on the lower cosmic planes with each plane vibrating at a certain frequency. Thus, YHVH, Vishnu, Moloch, Baphomet, Baal, and others are the various temporary formations of energy with an inbuilt degree of intelligence that exist on many of the lower cosmic planes. The higher cosmic planes are more impersonal. The withdrawal of a particular frequency of vibration of a particular plane would result in the dissolution of the formation (the deity) of that plane. The basis of the cosmos is the field of energy with its inherent consciousness.

JOEL COOL DUDE

Since: Jan 14

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#66068 Jan 16, 2014
ENERGY

If energy can be converted into mass via E = mc^2 then energy should necessarily be composed of stuff since mass has magnitude and forms particles which on combination take the shape of macro objects. It makes little sense to define energy in terms of its effects which is the capacity to do work or the capacity to generate motion in an object or the capacity of being stored in objects since the question pertaining to the basis of energy - of what stuff is energy made of?- would still remain unanswered. However, as matter is stuff thus it's only logical to assume, as borne out by the equation E= mc^2, that energy, too, is stuff, albeit higher frequency stuff. So, we may say that energy is finer stuff and that at a factor c a transformation takes place which converts the higher frequency stuff into lower frequency stuff. This transformation gives rise to mass which is gross stuff that vibrates at a lower frequency. This logic makes better sense.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#66069 Jan 17, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
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you should of gone straight to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew dictionary
Books for sale.

Would that be the tomato Guy's ?

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#66070 Jan 17, 2014
rest Energy = mass in rest of an electron or proton x 'speed' of light squared

http://www.circlon-theory.com/HTML/EmcFallaci...

Rest mass is the quantitative value of a body of matter’s resistance to change in motion

When a photon goes from rest to the speed of light, it does not accelerate. The stationary photon from which it originated was spinning with several types of circular motion at the speed of light. When the photon’s circular structure within the particle breaks, the motion of the photon’s mass changes from all circular motion to one half circular motion and one half linear motion but its velocity C remains unchanged.

Photons of visible light do not have nearly enough energy to convert to mass..

The formula E=MC2 has long been interpreted to mean that the rest mass of matter could be converted into the energy of massless photons and that the kinetic energy inherent in the motion of bodies of mass increases the mass of those bodies.
The validity of this idea rests on the arbitrary assumption that the photon has no mass. However, a classical interpretation of photon experiments would identify the photon as a particle of mass. Experiments show that photons have both energy and momentum and each of these is associated with the motion of mass. A careful examination of these experiments will show that energy and mass are separate and distinct parameters and that one is never converted to the other.

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

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#66071 Jan 17, 2014
Liam R wrote:
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Lazy hunters?
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Eat lots of venison, then urinate around the property line. Or just hunt them as they show up!
Why are they considered a pest?

Are you really going to shoot Bambi?

Or are people just pretending iot get a piece of free venison on their plate?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#66072 Jan 17, 2014
MAAT wrote:
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Why are they considered a pest?
Are you really going to shoot Bambi?
Or are people just pretending iot get a piece of free venison on their plate?
Where I live, northeastern US, because of the extermination of natural predators such as wolves and mountain lions, there is an overpopulation of deer. They eat the forest understory, selectively eating species they find palatable, which effectively represses forest regeneration and drives the forest ecology. The deer also eat everyone's landscaping in their yards. And there are deer- auto collisions. On top of all that, they are carriers and proponents of deer ticks, which carry Lyme disease.

As a result, most people in our region recognize the problem, and are in favor of population reduction. However, that is easier said than done, because hunting is generally not safe, or in some cases even legal, near the populated suburban areas. Plus there is a very vocal minority of animal rights people who come out of the woodwork every time a hunt is announced. However, this is all changing, and over the last 10 years or so, people have been becoming more accepting of hunting as a management practice to counter the overpopulation.

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