Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Since: Nov 13

Denver, CO

#65177 Jan 4, 2014
ah! crumb, Phil Everly is dead.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65182 Jan 4, 2014
None of my posts on rich, poor and karma have appeared till now. I guess they have been deleted.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65183 Jan 4, 2014
KARMA IS DEAD

After seeing the highly corrupt and the most perverse individuals in society getting away with all their crimes and when, on the contrary, I see them and their future generations flourishing in mind, body, political influence and material wealth, I am forced to conclude that causation or the the law of karma (as you sow, so shall you reap) and the teaching which states that the sins of the parents are upon their children via heredity have either malfunctioned or are dead.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65184 Jan 4, 2014
POOR AND RICH AND KARMA:

1) Most of the stress experienced by poor people is on account of poverty and I have seen that the poor (no matter how good their karma or deeds are) are always tensed and under great pressure and as a result their force fields are way too unsteady and vibrate in abnormal ways. After death, the unbalance in their disembodied force fields brought on a result of poverty or material want persists creating much hardship for the disembodied force fields. Thus, the suffering of the poor does not end even after death and where the law of cyclical progression (reincarnation) is concerned, it stands to reason that those exposed to great material want and suffering of a mental and physical kind due to poverty would get reborn once again in impoverished families as their individual consciousness does not possess the capacity to flourish in a material sense and in this way the vicious cycle of poverty and the concomitant suffering it brings with it gets perpetuated. We also see that during riots, war, economic depressions, epidemics, crime detection by law enforcing agencies and natural calamities, it is the poor who face the worst damage thus once again underscoring the point that suffering is an inalienable aspect of poverty.

2) Whereas, those born with a silver spoon in their mouth or in the case of those persons who acquire great wealth using legal or wrong means - such materially well off people are usually never tense since they have wealth, the best technology and sufficient political power to keep themselves in a position of advantage at all times and this gets reflected in the stability in their force fields. This stability in their force fields spills over into the afterlife in the disembodied state and as a matter of logic would get carried over into future existences as well where they would get reborn in affluent families. If at all rich people suffer it could be due to marital problems or addictive lifestyle habits and in case a rich person gets bumped off by his rivals it only indicates that in the power struggle with his rivals the person with a stronger force field has prevailed in getting his rival killed or jailed or beaten up as the case maybe.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65185 Jan 4, 2014
JOEL wrote:
None of my posts on rich, poor and karma have appeared till now. I guess they have been deleted.
Consider it karma
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65187 Jan 4, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Consider it karma
Karma?

LOL.

What does your tiny brain and undeveloped consciousness understand about the laws governing cause and effect (karma)?

Karma is not a tit for tat mechanism as most people naively assume.

Understand?

The posts on karma, rich and poor and reincarnation that I thought were deleted have appeared....let me see for how long they stay in place.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65188 Jan 4, 2014
NEWTON'S 3RD LAW AND KARMA:

Newton's third law of motion is an example of action and reaction forces at work between 2 bodies, whereas the law of causation (karma) at the human level could involve 2 or more people or could get activated at the individual level itself without the involvement of anyone else.

Karma is not action and reaction forces at work.

Karma is the cumulative trends that get manifested in an individual's force fields as a result of heredity, thoughts, words, deeds and environmental influences.

Many lines of causes imprinted in the body cells or that sink as mental or emotional imprints into the subconscious add up to produce a cumulative effect that could give far different effects than any or all of the accumulated causal trends.

It's possible that karma is not such a great mechanism as thought since the poor and the underprivileged suffer the most despite many of them having good karma and they are usually at the receiving end in times of war, economic recession, epidemics and natural calamities and besides they get penalized for crimes, whereas the rich and powerful people display little or no stress since they're shielded from the sufferings created by poverty and they're usually unaffected when epidemics, wars, riots, economic recession and natural calamities strike. Even the crimes of the rich and powerful people get covered up through bribes, frame ups and political influence and they're usually never penalized.

Evidently, the laws of cause and effect are not all that potent as people assume they are.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65189 Jan 4, 2014
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Karma?
LOL.
What does your tiny brain and undeveloped consciousness understand about the laws governing cause and effect (karma)?
.
I am not the one whining about lost posts, am I?

Soul searching is your task, not mine
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65191 Jan 4, 2014
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Soul searching is your task, not mine
Soul?

LOL.

What do you know about the soul?

Soul is not the breath of life or the life force as many ignorant persons assume on the basis of scriptural teachings.

(winks)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65193 Jan 4, 2014
I cook pretty well. This is what my friends tell me when at times they get a taste of the food that I have prepared. I rarely cook. I either eat out or the servants at home do the basic cooking.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#65194 Jan 4, 2014
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Soul?
LOL.
What do you know about the soul?

It is evident who needs to do the searching. The guy who keeps asking the question.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65195 Jan 4, 2014
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Soul?
LOL.
What do you know about the soul?
Soul is not the breath of life or the life force as many ignorant persons assume on the basis of scriptural teachings.
(winks)
What you need specifically is called "Heshbon hanesh"....

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#65196 Jan 4, 2014
OOPS - TYPO

Heshbon Hanefesh
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65197 Jan 4, 2014
ha ha - the intellectually challenged guy is teased. Relax.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65198 Jan 4, 2014
Where's Hugh? Come online. I miss your presence, here.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65199 Jan 4, 2014
Hugh,

What do you have to say about the belief that one can erase the sins of another or that one can take someone else's sins on oneself and suffer or even die as a result?

How is all this possible?

Would you care to elaborate, if interested?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65200 Jan 4, 2014
Is vicarious redemption moral or just or or advisable?

Does it not absolve a person of his responsibilities?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65201 Jan 4, 2014
In religious history, Jesus and Ramakrishna Paramhans are supposed to have drawn the sins of others on to themselves and as a result either became ill or suffered or died . In medieval times, the Mughal emperor Babur who conquered India is said to have willingly drawn on to himself via a Sufi ritual the fatal disease of his beloved son, Humayun, and died soon thereafter while the son got cured at the same time.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65202 Jan 4, 2014
It's 4:42 am here. Later.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#65203 Jan 4, 2014
Hugh,

What's the difference between instinct, reason and intuition and on which planes of consciousness does each of these arise?

Bye, I need to rest for some time.

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