Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63645 Dec 3, 2013
AGirlWhoLovesTrannies wrote:
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I am quite aware. Ethnic, as well as religious history have both been distorted greatly over the centuries. Nothing is fact and one must go way way way back to find the real Hebrews. The letter "J" doesn't even exist in original Hebrew language/alphabet.
rabbee: the letter j did not even exist, until after 1054 ad or about 4950 ftb again.

Avraham arrived in the year 1948, Adam arrived in the year 3896 and was put to death by G-D. cause there wasn't any body around to comfort Him here in TheTorah again. and adam and his mate, both had arrived by 5718 again. and they are put in charge, in the year 5844 again, when the day of rest begins again. because THE G-D, of Only TheTorah never lies.

as you have all been educated out of being, true to G-D for so long. there is most likely not much chance of correcting, your corrupted indoctrination in antiG-D mental delusions.

Since: Dec 13

Batavia, IL

#63646 Dec 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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1. Ok President and CEO of the numb nuts your comments are noted.
2. I am NOT the author of the words of the scriptures and so the matter of patrilineal descent is not mine to claim.
3. Were your sages not short on sense plus other things you would have known, even if not understood, the truth of my position.
Here is a hint: Look at the matter of Genealogy as outlined in the bible. Is it via the MALES and NOT the mothers or female.
If females or mothers determined identity, give me ALL the good reasons why their GENEALOGY was not preserved as in the case of MALES.
Do you see how careless and irresponsible it would have been not to record genealogy via the MOTHERS if they determined Jewish identity?
Please do NOT respond immediately. I mean it. Stop and THINK and be HONEST.
Great. Accepting what you say as true for argument sake, if you apply the above to Jesus as described in the New Testament, Jesus was not a Jew because his biological father was not a Jew. Thank you very much.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#63647 Dec 3, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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No Jew has been since 1948.
Ah, we're not Jewish...

(He's even more not Jewish than I am - most of the time he's an atheist because I'm not.)

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#63648 Dec 3, 2013
ericfromchi wrote:
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Great. Accepting what you say as true for argument sake, if you apply the above to Jesus as described in the New Testament, Jesus was not a Jew because his biological father was not a Jew. Thank you very much.
But according to Matthew, Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, in accordance with the law, indicating that he was Jewish.

Just one more contradiction...

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63649 Dec 3, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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But according to Matthew, Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, in accordance with the law, indicating that he was Jewish.
Just one more contradiction...
rabbee: well according to their scripture, makes it sound like He was there to be celebrated to death. if you already, knew you would die if you went to Yeroosalem. would you, want to go there? when there is the parade of death, awaiting you.

Since: Dec 13

Batavia, IL

#63650 Dec 3, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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But according to Matthew, Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, in accordance with the law, indicating that he was Jewish.
Just one more contradiction...
And according to John he was at the Temple on Chanukah.

Hugh is dodging the question.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63651 Dec 3, 2013
and why do they always avoid, that part. where He allegedly said, no one may take my life unless it has been commanded by G-D? well it is because they were going to need the false excuse, when they were commanded by G-D to punish the jews for betraying G-D still here in TheTorah.

you can always blame the jews, for what ever G-D commanded to happen. and the jews can always blame you, for what G-D commanded them to do as enemies also.

if you want to be an enemy of G-D, then G-D is going to command you all to go to hell still here in IT. and when G-D an enemy to attack jews being THEIR enemies also. they can always yell, it's anti-semitism. when TheG-D WHO commanded it, is not anti-semitic at all. and the ones who are attacking them, don't really know what the in the hell is going on either.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#63652 Dec 3, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well according to their scripture, makes it sound like He was there to be celebrated to death. if you already, knew you would die if you went to Yeroosalem. would you, want to go there? when there is the parade of death, awaiting you.
I seriously doubt that Jesus had any idea that he would die there and then. He expected to see the Messiah come within his own lifetime.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63653 Dec 3, 2013
you can't have a world war, commanded to happen. unless the whole world, has become an enemy of G-D.

wars are just as much and act of G-D, as hurricanes, typhoons, tornados, earthquakes, tsunamis, just like all other gone viral plagues. cause G-D is giving you the hell you prefer in disloyalty here in IT.

how many virgins can you throw into a volcano because the other g-ds are angry. when that kind if idolatry, is just going to have you keep repeating it?

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63654 Dec 3, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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I seriously doubt that Jesus had any idea that he would die there and then. He expected to see the Messiah come within his own lifetime.
rabbee: oh! i think They-Both, knew this story of Adam better than you. They even knew this, when the fig tree did not bear fruit on command out of season. as He also spoke of the comforter to come, which happens to be the woman chaooah inside of Him. to be returned as adam and his mate separated. THEY already knew they are HaMosheeach. Who G-D always places in charge for the day of rest. this is not a different story, from G-D we are all here in. it is the same one, you all keep failing to be here in again.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63655 Dec 3, 2013
it would be really nice, if everyone cooperated with G-D here in TheTorah. so we could all see G-D'S GanEden version of this.

but since again, there is nobody here in TheTorah. there is no point in G-D, giving that version.

you all say, there is nobody here in TheTorah. so i guess, G-D is going to give IT again until there is somebody here in TheTorah to give GanEden to.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

Since: Jan 08

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#63656 Dec 3, 2013
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>Ah, we're not Jewish...
Funny, you look Jewish.

“Here again in The Torah”

Since: Nov 13

Denver Colorado 80218

#63657 Dec 3, 2013
ericfromchi wrote:
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Great. Accepting what you say as true for argument sake, if you apply the above to Jesus as described in the New Testament, Jesus was not a Jew because his biological father was not a Jew. Thank you very much.
rabbee: well according to their scripture, Yoseph was not his father, and Merreeam was only a surrogate mother chosen by G-D, to give virgin birth to THEIR OUR Son Yeshooah in The-OUR IMAGE and LIKENESS. and if it sounds familiar, to something in TheTorah. well It most certainly should, still here in TheTorah again.

Since: Dec 13

Batavia, IL

#63658 Dec 3, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well according to their scripture, Yoseph was not his father, and Merreeam was only a surrogate mother chosen by G-D, to give virgin birth to THEIR OUR Son Yeshooah in The-OUR IMAGE and LIKENESS. and if it sounds familiar, to something in TheTorah. well It most certainly should, still here in TheTorah again.
It sounds like a bunch of Greek and Roman mythology I once read; e.g., Zeus changing into a swan and impregnating Leda. Gotta attract those gentile Romans to change to Christianity!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#63659 Dec 4, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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But according to Matthew, Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, in accordance with the law, indicating that he was Jewish.
Just one more contradiction...
President Obama holds a Passover seder, but yet some people still think he is a Muslim.(And Hugh probably thinks the guy is a Norwegian).

Its a mixed up world, a shook up world...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#63660 Dec 4, 2013
ericfromchi wrote:
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Great. Accepting what you say as true for argument sake, if you apply the above to Jesus as described in the New Testament, Jesus was not a Jew because his biological father was not a Jew. Thank you very much.
Its amazing that Hugh can CONTINUE to state this contradiction and expect noone to pick up on it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63661 Dec 4, 2013
ericfromchi wrote:
<quoted text>And according to John he was at the Temple on Chanukah.
Hugh is dodging the question.
Eric--Hugh is dodging the question.

HughBe---Although it appears to the simple/you that I am coping your way of dodging questions the dodging of this one question would not equate to the HUNDREDS that you have dodged.

Of course your thoughts on the matter are wrong, foolish and without merit.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63662 Dec 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Its amazing that Hugh can CONTINUE to state this contradiction and expect noone to pick up on it.
You see a contradiction when none exists. It is time to take a break from the subject. Your brain may ignite under the stress.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63663 Dec 4, 2013
add Y
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#63664 Dec 4, 2013
ericfromchi wrote:
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Great. Accepting what you say as true for argument sake, if you apply the above to Jesus as described in the New Testament, Jesus was not a Jew because his biological father was not a Jew. Thank you very much.
1. Charity says, overlook all the implications of your words.

2. My words which come next are true within in a context of argument and in a context of fact.

Look at the matter of Genealogy as outlined in the bible. It is via the MALES and NOT the mothers or females.

If females or mothers determined identity, give me ALL the good reasons why their GENEALOGY was not preserved as in the case of MALES.

Do you see how careless and irresponsible it would have been not to record genealogy via the MOTHERS if they determined Jewish identity?

3. I find your argument against Jesus being a Jew to be comical.

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