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yehoshooah adam

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Oct 11, 2013
 
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Correct. At a minimum, they are there to provide protection "from aggression, theft, breach of contract, and fraud" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Minarchism]. That is indisputable to any sane person.
All of the rest of the services that Government offers is up for fair discussion. As a progressive, I happen to think there is more they can offer. Libertarians, naturally, feel differently.
rabbee: well at least until the government themselves becomes the aggressor, the thieves, and breach of constitution, and fraud. and they always do try, and possibly succeed sooner of later. please do tell me of any country, this has not happened to or is not in the process of happening to?
yehoshooah adam

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Complete opposite of what I said. I said moral people will be moral with or without religion and government, and immoral people will be immoral with or without religion and government, but Government is necessary to prevent the immoral from hurting others.
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Some people are comforted by it, but they certainly don't need it to be moral.
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Not every religion. Some actively preach violence against others, particularly non-believers. I would say its a fundamental human principle, and since religion is a human construct, it sometimes carries that principle forward. But again, religion is not required. You should also note that there are many concepts preached in the Bible that any sane person today would consider immoral.
rabbee: all idolatries, are religions. you cannot show men any government today, that is not involving religious idolatry of men. even the idolatry of our father in washington, give us this day our daily freebies, robbed from the hard worker to give to the lazy.
yehoshooah adam

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So the main purpose of government is to protect individuals from others, why should government have the monopoly on that?
rabbee: is this why the government shows up after the slaughter - like the school massacres, 9/11. because they have proven, how they can protect you so well.

and can send your son's and daughters over seas, to kill or be killed. because they only say, they are protecting you? when even i know that, i cannot even protect myself from me all that well. i and nobody else can even, protect themselves from G-D.

even being an immortal is no insurance, that G-D can't send a mortal to kick your butt.
yehoshooah adam

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The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
I guess what I am getting at is we need to expel and isolate all of these imperialist NON SEMITIC jews that have corrupted and brainwashed this society with vice, greed, excess, perversion, subversion, decadence, and depravity. Or at least get them out of governing, banking, media, entertainment, edjewcation, and law.
Goodbye Rome.
rabbee: don't think that will cure, your being evil and wicked also.
yehoshooah adam

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Under the current system, private entities of which you have limited control and influence with, called insurance companies, often make the decisions regarding standard of care. Under Obama-care, this relationship continues, more or less, maybe tweaked a little, but essentially the same.
The concern about death panels is misdirected. Its already here. Why tea party people cant see that is beyond me.
rabbee: is it or is it not, against G-D'S Law to support the idolatry of alleged as men in any way, shape or form? what is more dangerous, TheLaw of G-D, or the laws of idolatrous alleged as men?
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Yes
Theft is a crime as well as pedophilia.
rabbee: they are both warning signs, of your deteriorating relationship with G-D. and if you ignore this, your going to suffer even more as a result.
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Government of the people, by the people, for the people.
rabbee: that was a long yesteryear ago, that is no longer the today.
yehoshooah adam

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The difference is that everyone gets insurance, with no pre-existing exclusions and no lifelong caps. That alone is huge.
rabbee: anything that looks to good to be true, most likely is too good to be true in it's actual implementation. i think eventually you are going to be disappointed, in the way it was proposed, and the way it actually is going to be. this kind of idolatry, is going to be the cause of more hell and death.
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Government is relationships. Laws implement policy. To the extent certain policies are influenced by ethics and morals of the originators, then government supports certain ethics and morals. But it is not a necessary pre-condition, hence the separation of church and state. You can get ethics and morals from Sesame Street just as easy as from your version of the bible.
rabbee: well if you want a government against G-D, i think you deserve the government of the devil. how did the evareem, that were given freedom of religion in egypt, end up enslaved in idolatry against it? when all the promises of previous government change, your screwed.

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I feel that you want to Humo-r me.
Yes, Humo, you have a good sense of humor.
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Government of the people, by the people, for the people.
The government isn't of me or by me.
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<quoted text> case of mistaken identity? Why are you being stingy with the details. If they mistook you for a dangerous perp, then sounds like it was justified.
Well it wasn't a dangerous perp that they were looking for, so much for your theory.
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<quoted text> It was govt. outsourcing to the free market. A colossal failure. Some things are best left to the govt.
Problem was, the government was still involved.
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The difference is that everyone gets insurance, with no pre-existing exclusions and no lifelong caps. That alone is huge.
Everyone gets insurance by force, you do know that everyones insurance is going up in price.
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Correct. Death panels, metaphorically speaking of course, are not a new consequence of ACA.
So why did liberals and he media run around and say that death panels dont exist and that's a conspiracy theory?

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Joel---Eric ... lacks class and has very little decency.
Hugh--- Perfectly correct

Joel---He's also a born fanatic and a rabid Zionist - a foul subhuman type.

Hugh--- Disagree with the BORN and SUBHUMAN. Everything else seems correct

Joel--But, what Eric fails to understand is that in an open debate his arguments will easily be blown to bits and all his cult beliefs exposed as sheer nonsense and his talk about future Messiah shown as bullshit in view of the evolutionary movement of nature and being.

Hugh--- Blown to bits because he lacks intelligence plus many of his beliefs are FALSE.

Joel--Talk to Eric more on secular matters but don't encourage talk on his observant Jewish bull shit.

Hugh--- Is he capable?

Joel---Treat him like.. a filthy, brainless, fanatical rat of perverse ...makeup.

Hugh---I have no objection to those observations.
Joel---Anyway, let the riff raff do as he pleases since nothing is gonna change him....he's in self-destructive mode. LOL.

Hugh--- Nothing will change him because he embraces DARKNESS and filth.
ha ha ha

See, the problem with ERIC and FRIJOLES is lack of intelligence and perverse genes.

Besides, they're hardcore fanatics rooting for filth like Judaism, Zionism and Israel.

Frijoles says he has a Ph.D. in Science - I think he is a liar.

He can't even understand the most elementary questions in Math, Physics and Chem.

I find it hard to believe that Frijoles has a Ph.D. in a Science discipline. He's most probably lying. His knowledge of Math, Physics and Chem is zero, absolute zero. Even a Grade 9th student back here knows more Math and Science than Frijoles the Super-Dunce.

Frijoles is in his late 40s - maybe 48 or 49.

Frijoles has also been lying about being married to a woman - he could be married but not to a woman but to a man.

If at all Frijoles is married to a woman it must have been in the past for a brief period as a sham and the lady must have dumped him after finding out he's almost fully homosexual with hardly a trace of heterosexuality in him.

Frijoles is a full blown homosexual - no doubt about this.

His expressions like OUCH, GEEZ, BOO and some others are so effeminate - girls and effeminate homos use such words.

Frijoles is also lying that he has kids - first it was a 6 year old girl, then after a few months a 2 year old son and now an 18 year old and an 8 year old.

He has no kids and is in a live-in relationship with a man for sure.

He is the biggest proponent of gay rights here in view of his pronounced interest in young boys. Seeing my extra-handsome face and body he'll begin salivating. LOL.

Eric is a lawyer, no doubt about his claim but has little intelligence and zero conscience.

I fail to understand what kind of pleasure you derive from debating fools and bigots and Satan worshippers like Eric and Frijoles.

Begin a discussion on something intelligent where everyone can participate.

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VOLUNTARIST needs an urgent brain transplant. His IQ = 43. LOL.
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Being belligerent is usually not the smartest conduct with a police officer. You reap what you sow.
Well I can tell you that I have plenty of run ins with police and I size their minds up pretty well, sometimes they need to be put in their place.
Like the gang member with the tattoos in the cop costume that askd me for Id, I told him I needed his Id first.
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ha ha ha
See, the problem with ERIC and FRIJOLES is lack of intelligence and perverse genes.
Besides, they're hardcore fanatics rooting for filth like Judaism, Zionism and Israel.
Frijoles says he has a Ph.D. in Science - I think he is a liar.
He can't even understand the most elementary questions in Math, Physics and Chem.
I find it hard to believe that Frijoles has a Ph.D. in a Science discipline. He's most probably lying. His knowledge of Math, Physics and Chem is zero, absolute zero. Even a Grade 9th student back here knows more Math and Science than Frijoles the Super-Dunce.
Frijoles is in his late 40s - maybe 48 or 49.
Frijoles has also been lying about being married to a woman - he could be married but not to a woman but to a man.
If at all Frijoles is married to a woman it must have been in the past for a brief period as a sham and the lady must have dumped him after finding out he's almost fully homosexual with hardly a trace of heterosexuality in him.
Frijoles is a full blown homosexual - no doubt about this.
His expressions like OUCH, GEEZ, BOO and some others are so effeminate - girls and effeminate homos use such words.
Frijoles is also lying that he has kids - first it was a 6 year old girl, then after a few months a 2 year old son and now an 18 year old and an 8 year old.
He has no kids and is in a live-in relationship with a man for sure.
He is the biggest proponent of gay rights here in view of his pronounced interest in young boys. Seeing my extra-handsome face and body he'll begin salivating. LOL.
Eric is a lawyer, no doubt about his claim but has little intelligence and zero conscience.
I fail to understand what kind of pleasure you derive from debating fools and bigots and Satan worshippers like Eric and Frijoles.
Begin a discussion on something intelligent where everyone can participate.
Frijoles just had a civil union with his long live in boyfriend and they adopted a child.

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well that is dependent on how, immoral your government actually is. the more immoral they are, the least likely is your chance escaping from them.
To be a leader involves immense moral and intellectual responsibilities because you're in control of people's lives and their mind-body well being.



The leaders should frame laws and rules that support sound values that're secular, just, humane, creative and enlightened and at the same time government officials should conduct themselves in a way that people can be proud of them and look up to them for inspiration.

If laws support perversions like legalizing porn or legalizing drugs or legalizing gay marriages or legalizing sex between 12 year olds, legalizing and providing contraception to teens, legalizing the teaching of sex and alternative sexuality to 7 year olds, or legalizing nudity in public places, legalizing guns and the like then well society sooner or latter gets influenced by these perverted laws and if at the same time the leaders are criminals, sex offenders, drug users, religious fanatics, wife abusers or homosexuals who live in with their boyfriends then the masses get the impression that perversion is legal and is indulged in by the ruling elite and so it's just fine for them to imitate or promote such distorted behavior.

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