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rabbee: what you see happening in TheTorah, was not the result of racism. since the multitudes, represented every known nation. but was the results of either, not being true or being true to G-D. and G-D did not kill all those at mt seeanee, because G-D is anti-semitic. any more than G-D, commanding all those alleged as jews killed in wwii, made G-D a racist. it was still a matter of being or not being true to G-D, here in TheTorah. a lot of jews die, for rebelling against G-D here in TheTorah.
HughBe --"Racism originated in the Torah," said Rabbi Yosef Scheinen, who heads the Ashdod Yeshiva."
Question, is RACISM a CRIME?

rabbee: what you see happening in TheTorah, was NOT the result of racism

HUghBE--- You are CORRECT but EVIL men will TWIST it and use it for their own EVIL purposes and gain.

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Where do you get your core beliefs and values from?
Secular Humanism. No god required.
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Oct 10, 2013
 
FACT: Jews are a RACE and NOT a RELIGION.

I have repeated this fact many times in the past but did not fully understand the opposition to such an idea/FACT by some claiming to be Jews until not so long ago.

I have said SEED of Abraham speaks to BIOLOGY or RACE and that fact shall NEVER change. It appears to me that if one is NOT a SEED then the concept of Jews as a RACE would make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE because you would have no true claim to being Jewish.

Anyhow, the genealogies in the scriptures that speak to who fathered who etc. is straight BIOLOGY or SEED.It is NOT the PERVERTED idea of the rabbis as to who is a JEW.

By the way, Israel was given to SEED of Abraham and NOT to FAITH converts.

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Oct 10, 2013
 
HughBe wrote:
FACT: Jews are a RACE and NOT a RELIGION.
I have repeated this fact many times in the past
and everyone in the universe has declared that you are incorrect

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Where do you get your core beliefs and values from?
Christian delusions are driving the GOP insane

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/10/christian_del...

.....Pew Research shows that people who align with the Tea Party are more likely to not only agree with the views of religious conservatives, but are likely to cite religious belief as their prime motivation for their political views.

White evangelicals are the religious group most likely to approve of the Tea Party. Looking over the data, it becomes evident that the “Tea Party” is just a new name for the same old white fundamentalists who would rather burn this country to the ground than share it with everyone else, and this latest power play from the Republicans is, in essence, a move from that demographic to assert their “right” to control the country, even if their politicians aren’t in power.

It’s no surprise, under the circumstances, that a movement controlled by fundamentalist Christians would be oblivious to the very real dangers that their actions present. Fundamentalist religion is extremely good at convincing its followers to be more afraid of imaginary threats than real ones, and to engage in downright magical thinking about the possibility that their own choices could work out very badly.

When you believe that forcing the government into default in an attempt to derail Obamacare is the Lord’s work, it’s very difficult for you to see that it could have very real, negative effects.

It’s hard for the Christian fundamentalists who run the Republican Party now to worry about the serious economic danger they’re putting the world in, because they are swept up in worrying that President Obama is an agent of the devil and that the world is on the verge of mayhem and apocalypse if they don’t “stop” him somehow, presumably be derailing the Affordable Care Act........
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Me thinks the creature from Jamaica is a teensie weensie high strung these days.
Too much ganja
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Oct 10, 2013
 
Another opposition to God's commandments by the USURPERS.

Tanach---"For the PRIEST'S lips should keep knowledge, and they(the people) should seek the law at his(PRIEST'S) mouth"

Whose mouth? PRIEST'S.

Encyclopedia---"the Pharisees created an aristocracy of learning instead, declaring a bastard who is a student of the Law to be HIGHER in RANK than an ignorant HIGH PRIEST priest (Hor. 13a)"

Question: where in the Tanach do you find such a doctrine? Higher in RANK to an ignorant HIGH PRIEST priest?

Who would have made him High Priest? How can someone become a High Priest and be IGNORANT?

How could he teach?

Source: Jewish encyclopedia

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12...

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Too much ganja
Too little ganja and perhaps too much coffee
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Pharisees "glorying in the fact that their most PROMINENT leaders were descendants of proselytes(CONVERTS)(Yoma 71b; Sanh. 96b)."

Most prominent LEADERS were CONVERTS descendants? What happened to the natural BRILLIANCE?

The above seems to me to be the foundation of the PERVERTED pharisaic concept of who a Jew is.

Motive is clear, POWER to dominate and is driven by COVETOUSNESS. They wanted the God GIVEN role of the priests for their OWN gain.
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" the whole history of Judaism was RECONSTRUCTED from the Pharisaic point of view"

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RECONSTRUCTED= changed

Let me simplify the quote from the Jewish encyclopedia.

This is what it is saying--- the whole HISTORY of Judaism was CHANGED.

How can any SANE person TRUST a CHANGED HISTORY?
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HughBe wrote:
Deuteronomy 21: 10-
"When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11 And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy WIFE;
12 Then thou shalt bring HER HOME to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; ...."
Comment: God that YOU claim to worship and OBEY condones and APPROVES of marriages of Jewish men to non-Jewish women.
On the other hand your god-men have OVERRULED the Torah and the laws of God and are AGAINST it.
You call that Marriage. You have a perverted sense of Marriage. I call that slavery. I call that taking the spoils of war. I might go so far as call it rape under today's standards of war.

And if you go on, the passage says that she shall be forced to abandon her ways (discard her raiments) and family; i.e., forced conversion. Only then can there be a marriage. But if you don't like her then you must free her. Why might you not like her? Maybe because she refused to abandon her family and ways.

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HughBe wrote:
" the whole history of Judaism was RECONSTRUCTED from the Pharisaic point of view"
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RECONSTRUCTED= changed
Let me simplify the quote from the Jewish encyclopedia.
This is what it is saying--- the whole HISTORY of Judaism was CHANGED.
How can any SANE person TRUST a CHANGED HISTORY?
How can an insane person like yourself answer that?
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1. SEED of Abraham speaks to BIOLOGY or RACE and that fact shall NEVER change.

SEED illustrated. Genesis 15:3

"And Abram said(to Almighty God), Behold, to me thou hast given no SEED: and, lo, one born in my house is mine HEIR."

What does SEED mean to YOU now?

In your mind is Abraham using SEED to mean a CONVERT to his beliefs?

Genesis 13:15--"all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy SEED for ever."

Did you see RELIGIOUS CONVERTS being given the land of Israel.

Couple the example of SEED above with Genesis 13.

2. If one is a CONVERT and NOT a SEED then the concept of Jews as a RACE or SEED would make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE.

Whether or not you are uncomfortable the land of ISRAEL was given to SEED of ISRAEL.

3.The genealogies in the scriptures that speak to who fathered who etc. is straight BIOLOGY or SEED. These genealogies show the importance of BIOLOGY. Challenge this statement in ANY court in any country.

So being Jewish is NOT the PERVERTED idea of the rabbis. Certainly one can CONVERT to the religion of the majority of RELIGIOUS Jews but that would make you a BELIEVER but NEVER a real JEW.

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HughBe wrote:
1. SEED of Abraham speaks to BIOLOGY or RACE and that fact shall NEVER change.
SEED illustrated. Genesis 15:3
"And Abram said(to Almighty God), Behold, to me thou hast given no SEED: and, lo, one born in my house is mine HEIR."
What does SEED mean to YOU now?
In your mind is Abraham using SEED to mean a CONVERT to his beliefs?
Genesis 13:15--"all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy SEED for ever."
Did you see RELIGIOUS CONVERTS being given the land of Israel.
Couple the example of SEED above with Genesis 13.
2. If one is a CONVERT and NOT a SEED then the concept of Jews as a RACE or SEED would make you feel UNCOMFORTABLE.
Whether or not you are uncomfortable the land of ISRAEL was given to SEED of ISRAEL.
3.The genealogies in the scriptures that speak to who fathered who etc. is straight BIOLOGY or SEED. These genealogies show the importance of BIOLOGY. Challenge this statement in ANY court in any country.
So being Jewish is NOT the PERVERTED idea of the rabbis. Certainly one can CONVERT to the religion of the majority of RELIGIOUS Jews but that would make you a BELIEVER but NEVER a real JEW.
Your just pissed because according to your OT, defective balls disqualifies you for the priesthood.
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Oct 10, 2013
 
Eric--Torah SAYS that the animals came to the Ark; not that Noah went out and got them.

HughBe--- Torah SAYS---"all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy SEED for ever."

"And Abram said(to Almighty God), Behold, to me thou hast given no SEED: and, lo, one born in my house is mine HEIR."

Clear, COVERTS are NOT SEED.

later
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HughBe wrote:
Eric--Torah SAYS that the animals came to the Ark; not that Noah went out and got them.
HughBe--- Torah SAYS---"all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy SEED for ever."
"And Abram said(to Almighty God), Behold, to me thou hast given no SEED: and, lo, one born in my house is mine HEIR."
Clear, COVERTS are NOT SEED.
later
What a non-sequitur!

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HughBe---"He(Yosef) is considered by his followers – directly, ultra-Orthodox Sephardic public, and indirectly, the wider religious society – as a master sage, or Maran, and the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law. Hence, his health is no laughing matter."
My(HughBe's) summary of the quote above---Yosef is considered by his followers and the wider religious society – as a MASTER sage, or Maran, and the generation’s GREATEST authority on religious law. Hence, his health is no laughing matter.
It is of NATIONAL interest as well as interest in the US and elsewhere.
(CNN coverage of his death, BBC and others CONFIRM the above)
Do try to pay attention here:
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NOW do you get the point?

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and homosexual activity causes tsunamis
Election fraud causes hurricanes...
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HughBe --"Racism originated in the Torah," said Rabbi Yosef Scheinen, who heads the Ashdod Yeshiva."
Question, is RACISM a CRIME?
rabbee: what you see happening in TheTorah, was NOT the result of racism
HUghBE--- You are CORRECT but EVIL men will TWIST it and use it for their own EVIL purposes and gain.
rabbee: only if you hate a person G-D loves, using race as your excuse. or if you love a person G-D hates, with race as your excuse.

all crimes begin with disbelief of G-D, here in TheTorah Happening. just like all other pestilence, plague, and famine, begins with disbelief of G-D here in TheTorah. in this world with the one franken-mind, of the criminal against G-D.

following a person G-D loves, is treacherous enough depending upon your reasons. but following any obama G-D hates, is extremely treacherous no matter what the idol reason is.
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HughBe wrote:
Another example of the ENSLAVEMENT and OPPRESSION of the Jewish people by the PHARAOHS also called rabbis.
Rabbis: "The neighbors and acquaintances [of a Jew who sells or RENTS to an Arab] must distance himself from the Jew, REFRAIN from doing business with him, DENY HIM THE RIGHT TO READ FROM THE TORAH, and similarly [ostracize] him UNTIL he goes back from this harmful deed…"
Comment: if an Israeli Jew RENTS or SELLS a house to a fellow Israeli meaning Arab then ALL other Jews must "DENY HIM THE RIGHT TO READ FROM THE TORAH... UNTIL he goes back from this harmful deed(of RENTING a house to his countryman)…"
Torah: "the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"
Where would the STRANGER WITHIN the gates be LIVING? Would these strangers that God spoke of LIVE in the land of Israel?
If so would the Jews provide them with STABLES or PIGSTIES?
Are we living in the 21st century? Is SLAVERY still legal?
FREEEEEEEDOM.
rabbee: well how many slaves, does obama have legally* working for him in idolatry? and i still have the freedom, to choose G-D as my only true slave MASTER.

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