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Sep 22, 2013
 
Eric wrote:
Hugh, the author of Matthew does not speak of a virgin birth. The author speaks of a typical story of Roman deities of the time. The author speaks that "she was found with child of the Holy Ghost". A deity came and impregnated a mortal. How many times did Roman/Greek mythology tell this story? Zeus and Semele. Zeus and Leda. Zeus and Olympius.
Clearly, the stories are Greek and Roman, not Jewish. Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.
Eric---Clearly, the stories are Greek and Roman, not Jewish. Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.

HughBe--- A typical approach of a Judahite. Are you an American?

Are you saying that a Jew cannot be a Roman?

What would you call a Jew born in the city of Rome?

Prove that Luke was not a ROMAN Jew.

The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
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Sep 22, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Oh, the beautiful and classy girls with Cathedral School/LSE/Stanford backgrounds won't spare you a glance, Mon, nor will the handsome young boys. LOL.
1. The boys are your thing, MON.

2. Your yogic powers are really WEAK. People, normal or otherwise, do find me appealing.

3. As a teenager I paid a visit to a major hospital because of a relative. Now I encountered 3 medical students who were all Indians from elsewhere and I can tell you this they were fascinated with me. In fact one of them had to remind the other 2 that it was against the rules to engage in casual conversations with patients in the corridors but they could not resist. They were of your hue and it is my experience that people of that hue find me fascinating.
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Sep 22, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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So, you want me to be your DARLING?
I am very handsome, Mon.
You'll take an instant fancy to me.
I wonder what sexually attracts you to a 50 year old plump American (Frijoles) with a bulging rear and a graying mustache?
I can't fathom your sexual attraction for a non-handsome old man like Frijoles.
Even if Frijoles consents to having sex with an ugly black bum with thick lips like you, I wonder what sexual pleasure he can give you.
Cultivate better taste.
(I'm not available!)
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Hugh---You are a darling.

Joel---So, you want me to be your DARLING?

Hugh--- I was simply saying that you are one and not that I WANT you to be one.

Joel--I am very handsome, Mon.

Hugh--- Apart from your mother and yourself, is that view held by others?

Joel--You'll take an instant fancy to me.

Hugh--- I already like you and so your words are senseless.

Joel---I wonder what sexually attracts you to a 50 year old plump American (Frijoles) with a bulging rear and a graying mustache?

Hugh--- Is bulging the same as distended? I'm sentimental and although he is full of it I like the flocker.



Joel---I can't fathom your sexual attraction for a non-handsome old man like Frijoles.

Hugh--- Handsome or not I am truly not attracted to men sexually. I like people based on personality.

Joel---Even if Frijoles consents to having sex with an ugly black bum with thick lips like you, I wonder what sexual pleasure he can give you.

HughBe--- My wish is that you were not pauperized. If you were truly rich as you claim, I would wager you on this THICK LIPS. Take my word, I would win.

Joel--Cultivate better taste.(I'm not available!)

Hugh--- Not available for TODAY, that is ok. When are you available for a non-sexual encounter?
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Sep 22, 2013
 
Messianic Jews in this world who accept Jesus as the promised Messiah, but who accept the Christian teaching that Jesus is a part of a Trinity God are no different than the Christians of Christendom, a main part of false religion or Babylon the Great today. These Christians are not acceptable to Jehovah God, the one true God of Noah, Abraham and Jesus. John 4:24

The only true religion or true Christians, Jehovah's witnesses and anyone who wants to worship Jehovah God as Jesus set the example, must follow the Law of Christ, as taught by Jehovah's witnesses. John 17:3

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HughBe wrote:
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The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
Nonsense. It clearly violates the second commandment and could never be associated with Judaism.
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Adam 36 wrote:
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Nonsense. It clearly violates the second commandment and could never be associated with Judaism.
HughBe --The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.

Adam---Nonsense.

HughBe--- Why do you call it nonsense, Adam? Did the NT originate with Gentiles? Prove that Paul, the Pharisee, was a Gentile or that John, the Jew, or Peter were not ALL JEWS.

Adam---It clearly violates the second commandment and could never be associated with Judaism.

HughBe--- If it violate the second then Judaism SHREDS the entire Tanach.

Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?
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Sep 22, 2013
 
I'll be back relatively shortly, from now.

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Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?
No one, including Jesus.

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HughBe wrote:
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Eric---Clearly, the stories are Greek and Roman, not Jewish. Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.
HughBe--- A typical approach of a Judahite. Are you an American?
Are you saying that a Jew cannot be a Roman?
What would you call a Jew born in the city of Rome?
Prove that Luke was not a ROMAN Jew.
The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
Thats a tangent

The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.

My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
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Thats a tangent
The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.
My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly. They did away with circumcision. They did away with dietary restrictions. They adopted Roman debauchery as Christian festivals (Saturnalia became Christmas by edict of Constantine). AND they made their "Savior" into a more Roman friendly personage by having him born of a deity and a mortal--just like so many of their mythological personages.
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No one, including Jesus.
HughBe---Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?

Adam--No one, including Jesus.

HughBe--- So how comes your rabbis do such things? Do you realize that by doing such things the rabbis have equated themselves to God?

In essence rabbinic Judaism is IDOLATRY where the gods are the rabbis who overturn the commandments of God.

Finally you need to understand that Jesus was the Law-giver. He was the Angel of the Lord. Yes He was the Angel which the cloud followed and even your rabbis know that the cloud followed Jehovah.

They know at least these things but lack the natural or spiritual insights to make the connection. In some of the cases they just want to retain their status as gods and DOMINATE and mislead the Jewish people.
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Frijoles wrote:
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Thats a tangent
The main point Eric was making was of the similarity of the tale to the Roman and Greek mythology at the time.
My guess is that this is news to you because of your substandard public education.
Eric---Luke the Roman and whomever wrote Matthew are imitating the literature of the times.

Frijoles---Thats a tangent

HughBe--- It is ONLY a tangent to those without understanding and or integrity. The point that I am making is that the NT is JEWISH and so his remarks cannot be unimportant, hence my focus and questions.

Study and try to link my words now and then address them. Best of luck.

HughBe--- Are you an American?
Are you saying that a Jew cannot be a Roman?
What would you call a Jew born in the city of Rome?
Prove that Luke was not a ROMAN Jew.

The NT is a Jewish book it certainly is NOT modern day "Judaism" but it is JEWISH and did NOT originate with Gentiles. Wake up and embrace TRUTH even though you HATE it.
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Eric wrote:
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If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly. They did away with circumcision. They did away with dietary restrictions. They adopted Roman debauchery as Christian festivals (Saturnalia became Christmas by edict of Constantine). AND they made their "Savior" into a more Roman friendly personage by having him born of a deity and a mortal--just like so many of their mythological personages.
Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly

Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.

Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"

Sit in a corner and study it.

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HughBe---Who can overturn any commandment of God? Would it require a GREATER God to do so?
Adam--No one, including Jesus.
HughBe--- So how comes your rabbis do such things? Do you realize that by doing such things the rabbis have equated themselves to God?
In essence rabbinic Judaism is IDOLATRY where the gods are the rabbis who overturn the commandments of God.
Finally you need to understand that Jesus was the Law-giver. He was the Angel of the Lord. Yes He was the Angel which the cloud followed and even your rabbis know that the cloud followed Jehovah.
They know at least these things but lack the natural or spiritual insights to make the connection. In some of the cases they just want to retain their status as gods and DOMINATE and mislead the Jewish people.
Once again you make unfounded charges you are unable to prove regarding the second commandment. Jesus gave no laws, he claimed he would fulfill them, whatever that irrelevancy means.

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HughBe wrote:
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Eric---If Christianity was to win converts from the Romans, the Christians had to make it more Roman friendly
Hugh--- Let me amplify and clarify your words so that even YOU may undertand them.
Here goes---- If JEWS were "to win converts from the Romans(Gentiles), the Christians(Jews) had to make it more Roman friendly"
Sit in a corner and study it.
Let me clue you in...They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment.
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Once again you make unfounded charges you are unable to prove regarding the second commandment. Jesus gave no laws, he claimed he would fulfill them, whatever that irrelevancy means.
What are you really saying, Adam?

What are these UNFOUNDED charges that you speak of?

Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?

Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?

By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?

Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
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Adam 36 wrote:
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Let me clue you in...They were no longer Jews if the violated the second commandment.
Who has BEWITCHED you into such a belief? God called them so even in IDOLATRY.

Again this is another example of the CORRUPT teachings of your rabbis. Your doctrine is a LIE.

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HughBe wrote:
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What are you really saying, Adam?
What are these UNFOUNDED charges that you speak of?
Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?
Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?
By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?
Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish

You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
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Frijoles wrote:
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dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish
You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
Listen well boy, you have a criminal mind. You and chinks like you falsely accuse people of antisemitism as a means of stifling TRUTH.

Chinks is NOT= Chinese.

YOU answer my questions, you anti-TRUTH and every thing good.

What are these UNFOUNDED charges?
Have your rabbis ADDED to the teachings of the Tanach via its many doctrines?
Did God command saying, NO ADDITION to it?
By ADDING have the rabbis DISOBEYED and overturned the COMMANDMENT of God?
Do your rabbis teach that peace is more important than loyalty to God?
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Frijoles wrote:
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dolt, Adam already told us he isnt even Jewish
You are unhinged by your antisemitism. You need professional help.
Which religion is Adam a part of?

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