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Saying that municipalities are fictitious entities is paranoid?
ooga ooga, ooga ooga

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After nearly 60,000 posts to this thread, it has truly degenerated into a monkey house.
Now, the only question I have to ask myself is ...
Does my continued participation make me Jane Goodall, interested observer maintaining my species-based objectivity ... OR ...
Does it make me one of the monkeys?
As I ponder this I'm overwhelmed with the desire to fling my own feces at the glass.
I just tried that in my previous post

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Sep 19, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Yes, Hugh is evangelical but so are many others.
You are tribalist, fanatical and pro-Zionism.
Hugh is a sex pervert and so are you.
Both Hugh and you lack intelligence, style and poise.
Hugh comes across as a better human being than you in many ways.
No offense intended.
Stop being a crud

Yes, I hold certain religious and political views, but anyone who isnt a moron knows that I dont frequent these forums to foist these views on others. I frequent these forums for amusement.(Mr Hughe, otoh, constantly posts hate posts solo on this and other forums)

Consider that foundation error #1

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Voluntarist wrote:
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Do you follow mosaic law? Or you pick and choose which law to follow.
Can members of your citizens society pick and choose which ordinances to follow?
Google Judaism and start reading a Jewish website

this is a great one to start - myjewishlearning.com

even Wiki is probably helpful

I would share with you, but I know from experience you really arent interested. The one thing I would share is that I follow a relatively liberal branch of Judaism. Since you probably have issues with the word "liberal" you probably dont even recognize or understand the implications of that statement.

L'ht'ra-out !

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Sep 19, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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So you have gone back to square one? And want another 60,000 + posts?
I like you part that it "does not matter what people call themselves", if they do not follow "Basic teachings of that religion" , they should not be member of that religion.
So if Christians are those who follow teachings of jesus Christ, then MOST of people who call themselves Christians are not Christians.
And speaking correctly, Messianic Jews are "real Jews and Real Christians" if they act on what their name says.
And I also like your ending part "There is no country like Isreal"!!
There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew. If you cant grasp that elemental notion....

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Sep 19, 2013
 
Almost every argument or viewpoint of the brainless Ph.D. in "science" is based on his perverse and fanatical cult beliefs and he says they don't color his views. LOL. Anyway, it's his life. I wish him well.

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Sep 19, 2013
 
HUGH'S EVANGELISM:

Hugh is humane and pretty fair-minded in many ways. I like these qualities in him. It's rare to find these higher values in most other posters here. Hugh foists his evangelical views on other fanatics like himself. He's never attempted doing that with me and with a few other secular posters, here, who he knows would, without taking offense, simply laugh at his attempts of imposing religious bull shit. Hugh's fanaticism is directed at other crude fanatics. However, as said earlier, Hugh is a better human being than the others he usually tussles with over silly issues like rituals, scripture and something as evanescent as ethno-religiosity. LMAO.

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"Liberal Judaism" is an oxymoron since there's nothing liberal about the original teachings of the cult (Judaism) that're, to say the least, vulgar, fanatical and diabolical. ROFL.

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Religion and politics are the last refuges of scoundrels. LOL.

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Bye, going shopping for condoms.

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Some one tried to "explain" to me how "democratic" is the Federal Reserve System of USA. These are just some hints , how a small minority gets "So much representation" in a Democratic Set up.!!


Who controls America...Fed Reserve

Ben S. Bernanke(Ashkenazi Jew) Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Janet L. Yellen(Ashkenazi Jew) Vice Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Kevin M. Warsh(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Elizabeth A. Duke(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Daniel K. Tarullo(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Sarah Bloom Raskin(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Federal Reserve District Banks:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Eric S. Rosengren(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

William C. Dudley(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Charles I. Plosser(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Sandra Pianalto(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Jeffrey M. Lacker(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Dennis P. Lockhart(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Charles L. Evans(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

James B. Bullard(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Narayana Kocherlakota(Indian) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Thomas M. Hoenig(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Richard W. Fisher(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

John Moore(White European) Interim President, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...

Summary:

Of the six(6) Federal Reserve Board governors, four(4) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 67%.
* Therefore Jews are over-represented on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors by a factor of 33.5 times(3,350 percent),

To redress the balance we need some mathematics...
We NEED to have...
196 Gentiles to counter 4 Jews representing 2% of Jews in USA!!

Lets look for nearly 190 extra gentiles who need to be in Fed Res NOW if we ever to have some fair play and stop the theft of USA Wealth to prop up a zionist terror state!!

Don't tell me this is a coincidence too!!

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Of the twelve(12) Federal Reserve District Bank presidents, seven(7) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 58%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.

* Threfore, Jews are over-represented among the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents by a factor of 29 times(2,900 percent).

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Who Controls the Federal Reserve System?

For the past forty-two(42) years, every Chairman of the Federal Reserve System has been a Jew, except for a brief period of seventeen(17) months. These are the Chairmen of the Federal Reserve System since 1970:

Arthur F. Burns(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: February 1, 1970 January 31, 1978
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_F._Burns

George W. Miller(White European)
term: March 8, 1978 August 6, 1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._William_Mille ...

Paul A. Volcker(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: August 6, 1979 August 11, 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker

Alan C. Greenspan(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: August 11, 1987 January 31, 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

Ben S. Bernanke(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: February 1, 2006 present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernanke

Summary:

Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.* Therefore the probability that almost every Chairman of the Federal Reserve System since 1970 would be a Jew is infinitesimally small.

Who Controls the Federal Reserve System?

The Federal Reserve System:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/def ...

Chairmen of the Federal Reserve System, 1914 present:

Charles Sumner Hamlin(White European)
term: August 10, 1914 August 9, 1916
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Sumner_H ...

William Proctor Gould Harding(Ashkenazi Jew/White European)
term: August 10, 1916 August 9, 1922
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Proctor_ ...

Daniel Richard Crissinger(White European)
term: May 1, 1923 September 15, 1927
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Richard_C ...

Roy Archibald Young(White European)
term: October 4, 1927 August 31, 1930
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Archibald_Yo ...
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Eugene Isaac Meyer(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: September 16, 1930 May 10, 1933
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Isaac_Mey ...

Eugene Robert Black(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: May 19, 1933 August 15, 1934
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Robert_Bl ...
(no picture available)

Marriner Stoddard Eccles(White European)
term: November 15, 1934 January 31, 1948
http://history.utah.gov/learning_and_research ...

Thomas Bayard McCabe(White European)
term: Aprril 15, 1948 March 31, 1951
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bayard_Mc ...
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William McChesney Martin, Jr.(White European)
term: April 2, 1951 January 31, 1970
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McChesne ....

Arthur Frank Burns(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: February 1, 1970 January 31, 1978
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_F._Burns

George William Miller(White European)
term: March 8, 1978 August 6, 1979
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._William_Mille ...

Paul Adolph Volcker(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: August 6, 1979 August 11, 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Volcker

Alan C. Greenspan(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: August 11, 1987 January 31, 2006
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Greenspan

Ben Shalom Bernanke(Ashkenazi Jew)
term: February 1, 2006 present
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bernanke

Summary:
Of the fourteen(14) Federal Reserve System chairmen, seven(7) have been Jews or partial Jews. This is a numerical representation of 50%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.* Therefore Jews have been over-represented among the Federal Reserve System chairmen by a factor of 25 times(2,500 percent).

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To redress the balance we need some mathematics...
We NEED to have...
343 Gentile CHAIRMEN to counter 7 Jews representing 2% of Jews in USA!!

PS:

Just a coincidence- MUQ!!

Why Jews would not "Love" Democracy and current Political System of USA!!

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JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
"Liberal Judaism" is an oxymoron since there's nothing liberal about the original teachings of the cult (Judaism) that're, to say the least, vulgar, fanatical and diabolical. ROFL.
Foundation error #2

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MUQ wrote:
Don't tell me this is a coincidence too!!
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Of the twelve(12) Federal Reserve District Bank presidents, seven(7) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 58%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.
* Threfore, Jews are over-represented among the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents by a factor of 29 times(2,900 percent).
You are just jealous because fundies dont even know how to count, let alone study economics
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Sep 19, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
Some one tried to "explain" to me how "democratic" is the Federal Reserve System of USA. These are just some hints , how a small minority gets "So much representation" in a Democratic Set up.!!
Who controls America...Fed Reserve
Ben S. Bernanke(Ashkenazi Jew) Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Janet L. Yellen(Ashkenazi Jew) Vice Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Kevin M. Warsh(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Elizabeth A. Duke(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Daniel K. Tarullo(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Sarah Bloom Raskin(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Federal Reserve District Banks:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Eric S. Rosengren(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
William C. Dudley(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Charles I. Plosser(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Sandra Pianalto(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Jeffrey M. Lacker(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Dennis P. Lockhart(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Charles L. Evans(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
James B. Bullard(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Narayana Kocherlakota(Indian) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Thomas M. Hoenig(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Richard W. Fisher(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
John Moore(White European) Interim President, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Summary:
Of the six(6) Federal Reserve Board governors, four(4) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 67%.
* Therefore Jews are over-represented on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors by a factor of 33.5 times(3,350 percent),
To redress the balance we need some mathematics...
We NEED to have...
196 Gentiles to counter 4 Jews representing 2% of Jews in USA!!
Lets look for nearly 190 extra gentiles who need to be in Fed Res NOW if we ever to have some fair play and stop the theft of USA Wealth to prop up a zionist terror state!!
Don't tell me this is a coincidence too!!
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Of the twelve(12) Federal Reserve District Bank presidents, seven(7) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 58%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.
* Threfore, Jews are over-represented among the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents by a factor of 29 times(2,900 percent).
I'm bloody glad it's the jews ...

Imagine if it weren't .. who the heck would you blame???

the red heads .. the Scandinavians ... the Norwegians are actually loaded; not many jews in Norway though - but the Norwegians are filthy rich - AND their food is not all that great - pretty boring, bland.

So blame the Norwegians - idea? They don't even make very nice pastries. And they beat us in football.
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Sep 19, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
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The real question of this thread was "Are Messianic Jews persecuted in Isreal"? The answer is yes, so we can close the thread on a positive nod, shall we?
rabbee: oh don't be silly we already, know the answer to the question is 'yes'. are orthodox jews, in ysrael being persecuted 'yes'. are all other jews, in ysrael and elsewhere being persecuted 'yes'. are all jews being persecuted here in TheTorah still, for their unfaithfulness to G-D 'yes'.

so how do they, try to correct this problem. is usually by more unfaithfulness to G-D, here in TheTorah. you can even tell by the condition of this whole world, they have not and are not doing what they were or are supposed to be doing. there is never going to be any peace in this world, as long as the alleged as jews are not really true to HaShem G-D. and they have nobody to blame for their own persecutions, but themselves.
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Sep 19, 2013
 
Rick Moss wrote:
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No, for three reasons
1. There is no such thing as a Messianic Jew -- they are Xtians who, for reasons well known -- they play at being Jews. I can call myself a Muslim -- but, if I believe in something wholly other than what Islam espouses that doesn't make me a Muslim.
2. They aren't, as a group, persecuted. I believe there may have been individual examples of unfair treatment. But, there is no concerted governmental or private effort to deprive a single Messianic Xtian of their rights or property. If you're looking for an example of actual persecution. Take a look at the plight of women and foreign workers in your own Saudi Arabia.
3. There is no country called "Isreal"
rabbee: oh come on! are you saying that the enslaved, messianics in egypt were christians waiting for their Moshe(Savior)? if you are waiting for any Moshe, or HaMosheeach, then you are a messianic jew or whatever. to expect a messiah, is messianic. even if their are disagreements, as to who is their savior. only those who reject the coming of a messiah, are non-messianic.
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Sep 19, 2013
 
MUQ wrote:
Some one tried to "explain" to me how "democratic" is the Federal Reserve System of USA. These are just some hints , how a small minority gets "So much representation" in a Democratic Set up.!!
Who controls America...Fed Reserve
Ben S. Bernanke(Ashkenazi Jew) Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Janet L. Yellen(Ashkenazi Jew) Vice Chairman
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Kevin M. Warsh(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Elizabeth A. Duke(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Daniel K. Tarullo(White European)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Sarah Bloom Raskin(Ashkenazi Jew)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Federal Reserve District Banks:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Eric S. Rosengren(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
William C. Dudley(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Charles I. Plosser(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Sandra Pianalto(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Jeffrey M. Lacker(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Dennis P. Lockhart(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Charles L. Evans(White European) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
James B. Bullard(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Narayana Kocherlakota(Indian) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Thomas M. Hoenig(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Richard W. Fisher(Ashkenazi Jew) President, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
John Moore(White European) Interim President, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/bio ...
Summary:
Of the six(6) Federal Reserve Board governors, four(4) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 67%.
* Therefore Jews are over-represented on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors by a factor of 33.5 times(3,350 percent),
To redress the balance we need some mathematics...
We NEED to have...
196 Gentiles to counter 4 Jews representing 2% of Jews in USA!!
Lets look for nearly 190 extra gentiles who need to be in Fed Res NOW if we ever to have some fair play and stop the theft of USA Wealth to prop up a zionist terror state!!
Don't tell me this is a coincidence too!!
..........
Of the twelve(12) Federal Reserve District Bank presidents, seven(7) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 58%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.
* Threfore, Jews are over-represented among the Federal Reserve District Bank presidents by a factor of 29 times(2,900 percent).
rabbee: what no muslims, maybe your in the wrong religion?
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Frijoles wrote:
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You are just jealous because fundies dont even know how to count, let alone study economics
rabbee: neither does congress, or the executive, or judicial branch and most all democrats and fewer republicans.
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Sep 19, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Bye, going shopping for condoms.
(smiles)
rabbee: fornication error #1.

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