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#58227 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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For all his faults, he can be reasonable at times. So I would go with completely brainwashed, and rule out unstable or personally insecure.
You know, Roger Waters just got a lot of flack from Jewish folk because at the end of his concert he floats a huge pig blimp with a cross, a star of david, a swastika, etc etc - his statement against organized religion. Personally, once I found out he didnt single out any religion in particular, I decided I couldnt care less.(I still find is politics reprehensible). Why cant Muslims act the same?
Interesting...

"The Anti-Defamation League criticized the musician in 2010 for projecting images of planes dropping bombs in the shape of the Star of David during a performance that year. However, the group does not think the pig was anti-Semitic in the most recent context, Israel Nation News notes...

The 69-year-old rocker has been using the inflatable pig for years to display political messages, The Algemeiner notes. There is even a Wikipedia page dedicated to the messages that have been scrawled across the swine's body, including "Impeach Bush Now" and "Torture Shames Us All!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/roge...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58228 Sep 17, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
ETHNO-RELIGIOUS EVANESCENCE:
Ethno-religious type is a flimsy ground to distinguish people of various backgrounds since the vibrational imprint in one's being can easily be replaced or overlaid with another set of vibrations of the psychological, vital-emotional and physical kind if the person concerned switches faiths or dumps religion altogether. Besides, if say X has a specific ethno-religious force field on account of his ancestral faith that he also adheres to, then, well, it can only mean that the present vibrational force field is imposed or is overlaid on a previous ancestral force field when the distant ancestors worshipped another God other than the present one. So, ethno-religiosity is a fluid event in being and is nothing to be proud of especially if it's the source of mental disorders, serious personality defects, tribalism, fanaticism, various physical illnesses and homosexual tendencies. LOL.
The ethno-religious assertion is a FRAUD as it is applied by a particular group to the biological SEEDS which makeup the group. Nearly 50 % of this group is secular meaning atheists, agnostics or non-religious.

Now, compare that to Jamaica where far more Jamaicans are RELIGIOUS and in particular Christians. My guess is that 90% or more of Jamaicans are Christians and then there is the ethnicity part. So Jamaicans here and in the diaspora are an ethno-religious group and far more so than the group in question.

The religion of one's ancestor is not necessarily yours. My Grandfather was Jewish and I am certain that he grew up with Judaism as his faith,given the time that he grew up, or that his parents meaning my great grandparents were secular. Take this line of argument to ancient days and get the picture. Now what does the religion of these my progenitors have to do with me?

Does it make me a member of Judaism?

How does the religion of the progenitors of Jews who are secular make them Judahites? It does not. It is an IDIOTIC LIE that is promoted.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58229 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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you ugly
And you grotesque.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58230 Sep 17, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
Come online. Please save me from the preying paws of daddy bears....(if you know what I mean).
(smiles)
I am here, dear. I understand your fear as these are men of unnatural appetite.

I was busy and for tomorrow I have an engagement that will not allow me to be on the forum before nighttime.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#58231 Sep 17, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Interesting...
"The Anti-Defamation League criticized the musician in 2010 for projecting images of planes dropping bombs in the shape of the Star of David during a performance that year. However, the group does not think the pig was anti-Semitic in the most recent context, Israel Nation News notes...
The 69-year-old rocker has been using the inflatable pig for years to display political messages, The Algemeiner notes. There is even a Wikipedia page dedicated to the messages that have been scrawled across the swine's body, including "Impeach Bush Now" and "Torture Shames Us All!"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/25/roge...
Yeah, he is well known as an Israel basher, politically. However, the pig incident was equal opportunity, and not about Israel anyhow. The inflatable pig, of course, comes from the Pink Floyd album "Animals"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58232 Sep 17, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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HughBe wrote:
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Good post, dear. Now simplify it for them.
Also address the matter of the religion that they were following when they worshipped idols even AFTER the time of Moses and which included the sacrifice of their children.
Were they Jews or not who were following Judaism?
Your move
HUghBe---You were INSTRUCTED to quote my words. You were NOT asked to tell me what your deluded mind believes.

Now quote my words that support your claim that I said, "Jews sacrificed children".

Adam----HughBe wrote:Good post, dear. Now simplify it for them.
Also address the matter of the religion that they were following when they worshipped idols even AFTER the time of Moses and which included the sacrifice of their children.

Were they Jews or not who were following Judaism?

HughBe--- Focus and UNDERSTAND. The issue is your assertion that I said "Jews sacrificed children". You have FAILED in supporting your claim as those words are NOT in the quote above.

Did I say that they were following Judaism?

Hint: Try to understand nuances and intentions.

Adam---Your move

HughBe--- On the contrary I am still waiting for my words that plainly said, "Jews sacrificed children".

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#58233 Sep 17, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Interesting...
Did you hear about the house explosion? I heard it from my house way across town.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#58234 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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And you grotesque.
fine with me
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58235 Sep 17, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Foolish generalizations:
1) Large testicles = poor parenting skills, high libido.
2) Small testicles = good parenting skills, poor sexual appetite.
PS: I happen to have medium-sized testicles. Hugh dear, any comments.(smiles)
Joel---Foolish generalizations:

1) Large testicles = poor parenting skills, high libido.

2) Small testicles = good parenting skills, poor sexual appetite.

PS: I happen to have medium-sized testicles. Hugh dear, any comments.(smiles)

Hugh--- "Large testicles = poor parenting skills, high libido." This is definitely NOT applicable to Frijoles. In fact only the middle concept of parenting skills applies to him.



Small testicles = good parenting skills, poor sexual appetite.

I would say that the smallness part and the poor appetite are a perfect fit for Eric. The parenting part is satisfactory but not good.

Joel--- I happen to have medium-sized testicles. Hugh dear, any comments.

HughBe--- Rest assured although you are small when compared to the Hugh it still will take Eric and Frijoles to = your tool.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58236 Sep 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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fine with me
tiny, is what you meant.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58237 Sep 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Historical works cannot be great literature? Who says so? The creative facet is the manner of expression. The way the words are put together. The choice of words. G-d was a really great author for the first 5 books. David for Psalms. Solomon for the Song of Song. etc. Look at how much has been turned into songs. Think of the poetry. Hugh, you need to expand your horizons.
Hugh--- I would say NO in the strictest of sense. It is largely HISTORICAL in nature. Perhaps Eric regards it as literature or CREATIVE work based on what he sees around him.

Eric---Historical works cannot be great literature? Who says so? The creative facet is the manner of expression

HughBe--- Did you notice "in the strictest of sense"? The CREATIVE facets that I was thinking of were in the CONTENTS and NOT the expression.

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#58238 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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You need to "discharge" the tension, stress and bad vibes.
Had a MOST FASCINATING VISION accompanied by a VOICE some hours ago while I lay there in bed in an indrawn state.

I think the fever was induced by the infused higher consciousness-energy that met some resistance in my being that as a result manifested a extra body heat.

Prior to this vision, I had this rigid view of evolution that one bit of information (consciousness + energy) could not evolve into another in a strict material sense.

The Voice told me that evolution is based on the urge to rise higher up the scale of consciousness-energy and it was a straining beyond the present type to develop newer features or to merge with a new range of consciousness-energy so as to transform itself into an altogether new species.

The vision was more symbolic than a vision of the distant past but it revealed to me that evolution of one species into a few others is possible provided a new frequency/new frequencies of vibration typifying the new species could merge with the conscious energy of the proto-typal species (common ancestor) giving it the added impelling force or bit of information in terms of consciousness-energy it needed to evolve into another type.

I could see the emergence of a new species after the new bit of information united with the existing species....

It was seen as a new form emerging from the old mould leaving behind no intermediate stages since the emergence of the infused bit of information drawn in from the universal force fields was a quick process that took place in the same organism. The time frame for the transition from one type to another after the infusion of the new bit of information occurred was quick and took a matter of years/decades to bring about the emergence of the new species from a previous one.

One species infused with 2 or more ranges of consciousness-energy gave rise to to 2 or 3 different lines of species...

The new emergences from the old happens rarely and only when a type is fit in terms of consciousness and energy to drawn in a new bit of information.

The supramental being will, similarly, arise from the mental being (man) via this process of infusion followed by an emergence of the supramental features in and through the mental being thus making the transition from a previous stage to the next.

All in all, it was a most fascinating Yogic experience.

More details, later.

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#58239 Sep 17, 2013
The fascinating yogic experience of a few hours ago ended with an OBE that lasted a few minutes releasing all the accumulated strain and fatigue into the universal force fields once my psychic was outside the body. I am feeling just GREAT and have gained deeper insights into the higher laws of nature leading to an evolution of a new type via the mechanism of emergence of infused range(s) of consciousness-force in an existing organism. Wow!

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#58240 Sep 17, 2013
It was a rare yogic experience. I am fortunate to have been given it by the dynamic descent of the Higher Consciousness-Force into my being.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#58241 Sep 17, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
The fascinating yogic experience of a few hours ago ended with an OBE that lasted a few minutes releasing all the accumulated strain and fatigue into the universal force fields once my psychic was outside the body. I am feeling just GREAT and have gained deeper insights into the higher laws of nature leading to an evolution of a new type via the mechanism of emergence of infused range(s) of consciousness-force in an existing organism. Wow!
Yogic experience = Masturbation
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58242 Sep 17, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Yogic experience = Masturbation
Rick---Yogic experience = Masturbation

HughBe--- Based on your words, I take it that you are a great yogi.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58243 Sep 17, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Had a MOST FASCINATING VISION accompanied by a VOICE some hours ago while I lay there in bed in an indrawn state.
I think the fever was induced by the infused higher consciousness-energy that met some resistance in my being that as a result manifested a extra body heat.
Prior to this vision, I had this rigid view of evolution that one bit of information (consciousness + energy) could not evolve into another in a strict material sense.
The Voice told me that evolution is based on the urge to rise higher up the scale of consciousness-energy and it was a straining beyond the present type to develop newer features or to merge with a new range of consciousness-energy so as to transform itself into an altogether new species.
The vision was more symbolic than a vision of the distant past but it revealed to me that evolution of one species into a few others is possible provided a new frequency/new frequencies of vibration typifying the new species could merge with the conscious energy of the proto-typal species (common ancestor) giving it the added impelling force or bit of information in terms of consciousness-energy it needed to evolve into another type.
I could see the emergence of a new species after the new bit of information united with the existing species....
It was seen as a new form emerging from the old mould leaving behind no intermediate stages since the emergence of the infused bit of information drawn in from the universal force fields was a quick process that took place in the same organism. The time frame for the transition from one type to another after the infusion of the new bit of information occurred was quick and took a matter of years/decades to bring about the emergence of the new species from a previous one.
One species infused with 2 or more ranges of consciousness-energy gave rise to to 2 or 3 different lines of species...
The new emergences from the old happens rarely and only when a type is fit in terms of consciousness and energy to drawn in a new bit of information.
The supramental being will, similarly, arise from the mental being (man) via this process of infusion followed by an emergence of the supramental features in and through the mental being thus making the transition from a previous stage to the next.
All in all, it was a most fascinating Yogic experience.
More details, later.
Joel---Had a MOST FASCINATING VISION accompanied by a VOICE some hours ago while I lay there in bed

Hugh--- It is interesting that the vision and OBE occurred while you were in bed. I too have had many OBE while in bed.

Much love, sweet Hugh.

“Act Interdimensional ly”

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#58244 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Rick---Yogic experience = Masturbation
HughBe--- Based on your words, I take it that you are a great yogi.
One of the best. Your point?

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#58245 Sep 17, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I too have had many OBE while in bed.
LOL.

Only a trained yogi can have willed OBEs or they take place in a trained yogi spontaneously at times under the pressure of the dynamic descent of the higher force.

Can you describe the mechanism of an OBE if you claim to have experienced the phenomenon?

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#58246 Sep 17, 2013
A CLOSER EVALUATION OF THE YOGIC VISION ON EVOLUTION OF NEW TYPAL FORMS (SPECIES):

1) Now, coming back to the phenomenon of the emergence of a new species from an existing organism on account of an infusion of a new bit of information in terms of a new state of consciousness-force with the force fields of an existing organism, it's evident that this phenomenon takes place only in the fit individual whose apparatus is in a state of steady aspiration to outgrow the limitations of the old typal features.

2) It's not that the entire species develops into a new type.

3) An organism of a prototypal species, can, if it develops the sustained urge to develop furthe, draw in a new bit of information from the universal force fields or there can come about a merger of a new bit of information with the force fields of an existing organism in this state of high aspiration thereby causing it to assimilate the new bit of information and with this incoming bit of consciousness-energy serving as the new material/impelling force, the existing genes of the organism undergo a mutation giving rise to new typal genes suited to express the new features.

4) The organism thus infused by the new bit of consciousness-energy then goes through several transition stages over a short period of time or over a long period of time and ultimately the new type emerges from the old type and in this way a new species emerges.

5) Since, just a handful of organisms in a prototypal species could acquire a higher state of aspiration or the higher urge to evolve further thus the transitional stages to the new type are rare to find and on death quickly get decomposed under layers of soil/water.

6) The evolutionary phenomenon that I perceived in vision is rare and happens only when a new range of consciousness-force gets activated in the terrestrial force fields.

7) Once the few fit organisms of a particular species transit to the new typal form they begin multiplying via sexual means and a whole population of the new type comes into existence.

8) The old view that I had of the materialization of the typal ranges of consciousness-energy into the various species is also valid but the above description is a deeper insight into the evolutionary mechanism and it is this evolutionary mechanism of infusion followed by emergence in fit individual that will give rise to the supramental being (a new species) from the mental being/man (old species). So, both mechanisms are possible. The yogic vision has clarified the subject in deep ways.

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