Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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#57795 Sep 4, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: funny when read Torah, all i see is the alleged as jews. being persecuted for how true, to G-D they weren't. persecution for not being true to G-D, seem to go hand in hand here in TheTorah.
have you alleged as jews, tried being true to G-D here in TheTorah for a change/ so that G-D won't command that you be persecuted, for not being true to THEM here in TheTorah? so that G-D might concentrate, of persecuting their other enemies for a change.
and no i do not believe, G-D is commanding alleged as jews be persecuted. because G-D is - anti-semitic either. when even the peoples, G-D commands to do this. don't even recognize what the message is really about. since the alleged as jews, seem to be highly resistant to getting the messages being sent.
There are 7 billion people in the world. Is there a reason you reserve your concern only for Jews?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57796 Sep 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
ANOTHER MAJOR SYMPTOM OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE - MOST JEWS ARE BISEXUAL OR HOMOSEXUAL:
Another important point trait that manifests in the Jewish genome is that most Jews are either bisexual or homosexual - these sexual proclivities are highest among Jews than in any other religious or cultural community. So, sexual orientation favoring homosexuality or bisexuality is another distinguishing mark of the Jewish community aside from rampant mental illnesses and widespread nerve diseases brought about by incest.
rabbee: nah i do not believe, that many alleged as jews. actually worship halooseefer - hasatan or baal hamolech maybe. maybe about 6%, worship halooseefer. you would have a greater chance of a gay time, in the catholic church. for violating the command, to be fruitful and multiply. and for only selecting about, 8 and 2 halves of the 611 really good suggestions from G-D.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57797 Sep 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE ETHNO-RELIGIOUS JEWS?
1) If the Jews are an ethnoreligious community - a particular genetic community - considering their tribal beliefs that they've adhered to over millennia despite intermarriage with people of other ethnicities/beliefs, then, yes, the genome of such a closed community would generate certain patterns that reflect the mental beliefs and physical practices of the community.
2) Now, most importantly, what happened to the ethnic character of the Jews prior to following Judaism?
3) It's obvious that prior to turning to the worship of the Babylonian deity El, the community was devoted to the worship of another God or they worshiped many other Gods except El.
4) So, if religious beliefs have an impact on genes in view of the mind-matter nexus then shouldn't the earlier religious beliefs have imprinted themselves on the genes/psychology of the people who were later known as Jews who worshipped El?
5) What happened to the pre-El genetic patterns that defined the ethnicity of this group of people who were devotees of another God or who worshipped other Gods other than El/YHVH?
6) Were the earlier pre-El ethnic/genetic patterns erased or were they overlaid with vibrational imprints of El worship that came into their lives later?
Good post, dear. Now simplify it for them.

Also address the matter of the religion that they were following when they worshipped idols even AFTER the time of Moses and which included the sacrifice of their children. Was that the Judaism that made them ethno-religious Jews?

"El" commanded them NOT to ADD to His words and their rabbis have made a religion via ADDITION that not even Moses would recognize. So what religion are they talking about when they speak of ethno-religious?

Certainly the religion given by El is NOT what makes them ethno-religious as they do NOT follow it.

In essence if religion is what makes anyone a Jew or Israelite then none of the prophets, the 12 patriarchs, Moses or Aaron were Jews/Israelites as they ALL had a religion different from Judaism.

Judaism VIOLATES and shreds the RELIGION of the Tanach.

I give an example, "Thou shalt have no other gods(RULERS) before me."

The words of their rabbis take priority over the words of God. The god-men are placed ABOVE their God in Judaism. Heck, Frijoles told me in the past that they no longer worshipped the God of the Bible.

As I mention this it occurred to me that Judaism can in fact make one a Jew but it certainly CANNOT make one an Israelite in the sight of Almighty God.

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#57798 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Good post, dear. Now simplify it for them.
Also address the matter of the religion that they were following when they worshipped idols even AFTER the time of Moses and which included the sacrifice of their children.
In essence if religion is what makes anyone a Jew or Israelite then none of the prophets, the 12 patriarchs, Moses or Aaron were Jews/Israelites as they ALL had a religion different from Judaism.
Judaism VIOLATES and shreds the RELIGION of the Tanach.
I give an example, "Thou shalt have no other gods(RULERS) before me."
The words of their rabbis take priority over the words of God. The god-men are placed ABOVE their God in Judaism. Heck, Frijoles told me in the past that they no longer worshipped the God of the Bible.
As I mention this it occurred to me that Judaism can in fact make one a Jew but it certainly CANNOT make one an Israelite in the sight of Almighty God.
Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?

You are very confused. The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians not Jews.

The rest is merely anti-semitic jibberish.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57799 Sep 4, 2013
Other gods before me.

"In the Talmud, peace is one of the most esteemed values. According to RABBI ... There is even a sense that peace is MORE important than LOYALTY to God."

"peace is MORE important than LOYALTY to God" and the BLIND dumb sheep follow/accept this?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57800 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?
You are very confused. The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians not Jews.
The rest is merely anti-semitic jibberish.
YOU are not only a DUNCE but you are without any sense of self-respect and honour.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57801 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?
You are very confused. The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians not Jews.
The rest is merely anti-semitic jibberish.
I am also going to call you a person with a CRIMINAL mind. You and others like you should be charged with crimes against humanity and in particular the Jewish people.

In addition, it should be possible to charge you for your FALSE claim that you have made in your post. ONLY evil people would agree with you. All false claims of "anti-semitic jibberish." should land you in prison.

YOU belong in prison and no doubt it would seem like heaven to you.

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#57802 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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YOU are not only a DUNCE but you are without any sense of self-respect and honour.
Are you dumb or just playing dumb?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57803 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?
You are very confused. The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians not Jews.
The rest is merely anti-semitic jibberish.
Adam, the Hitlerian pharaoh get someone to explain the words below.

"Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou SACRIFICED unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter,"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57804 Sep 4, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
5" versus 14".
This revelation from me should excite you...
Where are you, mon?
(wink wink wink)
5" versus 14" seems that you are talking about my finger in the first instance and then my tool.

much love, mon.

Since: Aug 13

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#57805 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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YOU are not only a DUNCE but you are without any sense of self-respect and honour.
Projecting

Since: May 13

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#57806 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Also address the matter of the religion that they were following when they worshipped idols even AFTER the time of Moses and which included the sacrifice of their children.
The Tanach is chock full of references to human sacrifices. Moses himself was a human sacrificer.

I don't understand your opposition to idols that're are human attempts to remember the ideal in concrete form - in the orthodox view, it's ok to worship an unseen G-d with human qualities but it is not ok to make an idol of the same anthropopathic G-d for worship. The unseen G-d with human traits is faceless, the other version which is the idol has a face/form. The qualities remain unaltered in both aspects - so, where lies the difference?

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#57807 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Adam, the Hitlerian pharaoh get someone to explain the words below.
"Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou SACRIFICED unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter,"
Once again..I will ask the question...

What does 'an eye for an eye' mean?

Let's see just how smart you are.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57808 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Are you dumb or just playing dumb?
Let me help you once more, DUMB DUMB.

YOU Adam said---Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?

I HughBe said---YOU are not only a DUNCE but you are without any sense of self-respect and honour.

(If you don't know that ancient Israel sacrificed their children from time-to-time then you are a DUNCE. The fact is your TWO questions confirm that you don't know and as such they confirm that you are in fact a DUNCE, among other things)
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57809 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?
You are very confused. The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians not Jews.
The rest is merely anti-semitic jibberish.
Adam, the psychotic---The 'Thou shalt have no other' quote refers to Christians NOT Jews.

HughBe--- It is the FIRST of the 10 commandments. Go take your medication.

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#57810 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Let me help you once more, DUMB DUMB.
YOU Adam said---Sacrifice of children? You have any proof of that libel?
I HughBe said---YOU are not only a DUNCE but you are without any sense of self-respect and honour.
(If you don't know that ancient Israel sacrificed their children from time-to-time then you are a DUNCE. The fact is your TWO questions confirm that you don't know and as such they confirm that you are in fact a DUNCE, among other things)
Tell us idiot where was Ezekiel at the time?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57811 Sep 4, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Once again..I will ask the question...
What does 'an eye for an eye' mean?
Let's see just how smart you are.
You are a waste of time. Go play with your dolly.

Since: May 13

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#57812 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles told me in the past that they no longer worshipped the God of the Bible.
Judaism is evolutionary and not static in its organic relationship with its G-d who has numerous aspects some of which were revealed to the patriarchs, while other aspects remained latent during the times of the patriarchs and so who's to say if the G-d of the Tanach did not reveal his hidden aspects to later day intuitive Jews?

Don't try and fit G-d into your tiny dark well of a mind and stop laying restrictions on progress and evolutionary trends and don't try to confine G-d within the narrow limits as seen in the teachings of the Tanach.

However, the teachings of the Tanach, too, are in many ways evolutionary with different laws/practices being recommended to the Jews in different ages/circumstances.

There's so much more to the innate nature of G-d than what Tanach can ever reveal in its limited way.

You've failed to understand Judaism and the Jewish mind both of which are evolutionary.

The modern world is full of tangible examples of Jews leading most of the radical lifestyle, political, financial or philosophical trends in areas like capitalism, communism, feminism, psychology, secularism, politics, human rights, jurisprudence, globalization and others.

This ingrained Jewish trait of evolving to newer planes is inherited from the evolutionary nature of the faith itself and so it spills over into the lives and practices and attitudes of Jews.

Now, buzz off, Cruff.

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#57813 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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5" versus 14" seems that you are talking about my finger in the first instance and then my tool.
much love, mon.
No, no, no.

I was referring to my modest nu nu (dick) that measures 5" or at the most 5.5".

I thought the mention of my vital stat would excite you.

(grins)

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#57814 Sep 4, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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You are a waste of time. Go play with your dolly.
Go play with your swaztika

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