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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57217 Aug 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Dear Hugh,
Are you a zoophile?
(smiles)
Indeed I am committed to protecting you and other animals.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57218 Aug 22, 2013
Eric dear, specifiy the behavioural obligations that God gave to Isaac as conditions for him to get the land of Israel.

The conditions are ALL in the Tanach, quote them and keep your opinion to yourself.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57219 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

"Moses failed to meet his behavioral obligations." be SPECIFIC.
akh hanavi asher yazid ledaber davar bishmi et asher lo-tsivitiv ledaber vaasher yedaber beshem elohim akherim umet hanavi hahu:
JOEL

India

#57220 Aug 22, 2013
ASCENT AND DESCENT IN YOGA:

1) Yoga has 2 movements - ascent of the awakened psychic or of any part of the individual's consciousness into any of the higher planes of cosmic/supracosmic consciousness and descent which is the infiltration of any of the higher forces into the being of the individual.

2) While ascent is a common yogic expereince,, the dynamic descnt of the higher force into the being is rare.

3) Descent of the higher force results in the fixing of any aspect of the higher force in the being but it is painful and protracted.

4) Whereas rising into a higher state of consciousness and hearing voices, seeing burning bushes, seeing circles of light or seeing a flight of stairs, or seeing a moon and so on are common yogic experiences of the lower kind, the experience of the cosmic self, the cosmic wideness, the cosmic silence, the cosmic peace, the supracosmic presence, the one in the many and the many inh the one experience are some of the higher experiences of the ascending yoga.

5) The descending phase is more concerned with bringing down the higher force into the being - mental, vital, physical and subconscient - and transforming its inferior movements into the superior pulsations of the range of the higher force brought down into the being.

6) It takes years if not many lives for a substantial portion of the higher consciousness-forfce to descend into the being and fix itself in a particular plane or part of the being, erase, dissolve or remedy its defects if any and therefater transform the lower movement into the higher one representing its own.

7) Descent is the direct experience of the supraphysical in the physical and the subsequent fixing of the supraphysical in the physical to transform the physical and make it supraphysical and if the supramental is fixed in the physical, it results in physical immortality, invincibility, replacement of the internal organ systems, remolding of the physical frame, opening up of the higher gnosis and so on.
JOEL

India

#57221 Aug 22, 2013
The dynamic descent of the supramental force in my psycho-vital-physical apparatus is now receding, the after-effects linger and the present descent has added a bit more of its essence to my being. Much more work needs to be done before definite progress is made . Importantly, just before or just after a yogic experience, one has to be alert with all the defenses up since usually the asuric forces attack at these times to prevent or take away the gaIns of the experience as the case may be....Resting. Bye.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57222 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
akh hanavi asher yazid ledaber davar bishmi et asher lo-tsivitiv ledaber vaasher yedaber beshem elohim akherim umet hanavi hahu:
Let us reason together, son. YOU said Moses failed to live up to his behavioural obligations and that is why he did not inherit the promised land. Cite passage that demonstrates that Moses KNEW this condition, for inheritance of the land.

If such condition was not stated to Moses, is God UNJUST?

Now, I KNOW that Moses was SUPERIOR to ALL of your rabbis in terms of being OBEDIENT to Gods requirements so explain the reason why God allowed even ONE rabbi,past or present, to live in Israel.

Is He PARTIAL?

Address the other matters including being SPECIFIC about the CONDITIONS that should have been met by Abram, Issac and Jacob to inherit the promised land. These conditions are listed in YOUR Tanach, so quote them.

Look in YOUR book of Genesis for them, they are there.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57223 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Eric dear, specifiy the behavioural obligations that God gave to Isaac as conditions for him to get the land of Israel.
The conditions are ALL in the Tanach, quote them and keep your opinion to yourself.
Isaac already had the Land of Canaan. He was born there. He lived there. He died there. He is buried there.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57224 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Let us reason together, son. YOU said Moses failed to live up to his behavioural obligations and that is why he did not inherit the promised land. Cite passage that demonstrates that Moses KNEW this condition, for inheritance of the land.
Asked and answered. He transcribed it. Therefore, he knew about it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57225 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Asked and answered. He transcribed it. Therefore, he knew about it.
Share YOUR knowledge on the matter. Cite where Moses wrote that support your utterance.

Give me the list of CONDITIONS that God gave to Abraham meaning list the commandments that God told Abram that he must observe in order to inherit the land.

Quote them from your Tanach. If you don't see it in an old version try the DRAFT version that will soon be released. It has been improved.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57226 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Share YOUR knowledge on the matter. Cite where Moses wrote that support your utterance.
G-d spoke; Moses wrote:

akh hanavi asher yazid ledaber davar bishmi et asher lo-tsivitiv ledaber vaasher yedaber beshem elohim akherim umet hanavi hahu:
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57227 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Isaac already had the Land of Canaan. He was born there. He lived there. He died there. He is buried there.
Eric,---Isaac ALREADY had the Land of Canaan. He was born there.

Hugh----Are you without sense? This is clearly a rhetorical question.

Are you saying that Isaac had ownership of the land? Is this what you are really saying, drowning man?

Explain this passage given that you make reference to Isaac being BORN in the land and ALREADY had it.

Genesis 26:3 " Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee(Isaac), and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I WILL GIVE all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father"

If Isaac already had the land, how can God speak of GIVING it to him? HOW? Note, "I WILL GIVE"

In essence your DOCTRINE is FALSE and is man-made BS.

Finally, what are the conditions that were given to Isaac.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57228 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
G-d spoke; Moses wrote:
akh hanavi asher yazid ledaber davar bishmi et asher lo-tsivitiv ledaber vaasher yedaber beshem elohim akherim umet hanavi hahu:
God spoke, Moses wrote and YOU reject the spoken and written words.

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#57229 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
have you tried permethrin to kill your crabs?
Works for fleas too I think - so he can get twice the benefit
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57230 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
God spoke, Moses wrote and YOU reject the spoken and written words.
absolutely not. You are the one who has rejected the passage that I have cited all along. I have paraphrased it in English. I have quoted it in transliterated Hebrew. And you give no reason for having so rejected it. G-d gave guidelines on how to behave--including the one I have cited. Moses did not so behave. Moses doesn't get to go across the Jordan.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57231 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Eric,---Isaac ALREADY had the Land of Canaan. He was born there.
Hugh----Are you without sense? This is clearly a rhetorical question.
Are you saying that Isaac had ownership of the land? Is this what you are really saying, drowning man?
Explain this passage given that you make reference to Isaac being BORN in the land and ALREADY had it.
Genesis 26:3 " Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee(Isaac), and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I WILL GIVE all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father"
If Isaac already had the land, how can God speak of GIVING it to him? HOW? Note, "I WILL GIVE"
In essence your DOCTRINE is FALSE and is man-made BS.
Finally, what are the conditions that were given to Isaac.
Can't presently give anything to those unborn. Has to be future.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57232 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
absolutely not. You are the one who has rejected the passage that I have cited all along. I have paraphrased it in English. I have quoted it in transliterated Hebrew. And you give no reason for having so rejected it. G-d gave guidelines on how to behave--including the one I have cited. Moses did not so behave. Moses doesn't get to go across the Jordan.
Explain this passage given that you make reference to Isaac being BORN in the land and ALREADY had it .

Genesis 26:3 " Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee(Isaac), and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I WILL GIVE all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father"

If Isaac already had the land, how can God speak of GIVING it to him? HOW? Note, "I WILL GIVE"
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57233 Aug 22, 2013
FOCUS, Eric. I shall NOT depart from the central point.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57234 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't presently give anything to those unborn. Has to be future.
YOU said that Isaac already had the land because he was BORN there etc. so what are you talking about? My FOCUS is Isaac.

Let me try again.

Explain this passage given that you make reference to Isaac being BORN in the land and ALREADY had it.

Genesis 26:3 " Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee(Isaac), and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I WILL GIVE all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father"

If Isaac already had the land, how can God speak of GIVING it to him? HOW? Note, "I WILL GIVE"

In essence your DOCTRINE is FALSE and is man-made BS.
Finally, what are the conditions that were given to Isaac.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57235 Aug 22, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't presently give anything to those unborn. Has to be future.
List the CONDITIONS given to Isaac, to inherit the land.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57236 Aug 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
List the CONDITIONS given to Isaac, to inherit the land.
Isaac already inherited the land. He was born there. He lived there. He died there.

Can't you see it's a constant interaction between G-d and the Hebrews. Think Babylonian captivity. You fail in your behavioral obligations and you wind up in Iraq.

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