Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57084 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
You're a worshipper of El or YHVH - Satan!
That says it all.
My belief system has never caused me to become ill. Your belief system not only is morally sick but has made you physically sick. Maybe your body is trying to tell you something.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57085 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
my parents damaged me tremendously in emotions and mind owing to their serious incompatibility and constant fights and vicious abuses. my ex-master completed my destruction. the yoga continues but here i am almost fully bruised in mind and emotions with little hope of complete recovery. if those vicious after-effects get worse, it'll result in my death or in a suicide. i am almost completely finished in emotions and mind. i can't stabilize despite having so much on all fronts. what's keeping me alive till now are those yoga experiences that step in at the right moment to rescue me just when things are set to get worse or seriously damaging. then after the yogic experience recedes, it's ok for some time and then the same torture begins again. i want out. either forward and into supramentalization or death through a force attack or self-destruction through suicide. i can't take it any more.
much good will.
You say all of the above while you continue to supp on their teat--living on your inheritance; clipping your coupons; doing nothing to benefit either yourself nor mankind.

What a waste of a life.

Stop blaming others and get off your tush. Do something productive.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57086 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
TANTRA & SEX:
1) Pure Tantra is meditational using the various activated mantras of the different chakras or force centers, one at a time, aligned along the spine-brain.********
Explain under your system how mankind survives

Since: May 13

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#57087 Aug 20, 2013
Eric wrote:
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My belief system has never caused me to become ill.
LOL.

When a person worships Satan, as you do, he's protected from the vicious force attacks that Satan launches against those spiritual aspirants who have the capacity to weaken Satan's grip (or even destroy it) on the terrestrial force fields.

Those who're true spiritual aspirants with great innate capacity for yogic experiences are always attacked and at times maimed or killed by Satan and its subordinates.

You won't understand any of the deeper mechanisms that I've briefly touched upon above since you worship Satan.

ROFL.

Get it, retarded satanist?

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#57088 Aug 20, 2013
Eric wrote:
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You say all of the above while you continue to supp on their teat--living on your inheritance; clipping your coupons; doing nothing to benefit either yourself nor mankind.
So, what should be done with the vast inheritance?

Give it away to charity - to parasitic people who're genetically inferior where materialism is concerned and who need donations from the wealthy or from the state to survive? I donate money only to the truly deserving needy ones and help them realize their inherent capacity and to thereby fend for themselves when they're fit enough to do so.

It's only natural for parents to pass down their material assets to their offspring.

I have multiplied my inheritance through smart investments in prime real estate, blue chip industries and so on.

I've not squandered any of my late parents' money on booze, sexual exploits, prostitutes, drugs or by funding terrorist states/groups.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#57089 Aug 20, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Explain under your system how mankind survives
Each person survives in keeping with his awakened innate genetic capacity and karma.

Inherent cause-effect mechanisms guide every aspect of existence.

No freebies, here.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#57090 Aug 20, 2013
Causation is the key regulator that determines the functioning and outcome of individual and universal systems.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57091 Aug 20, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The problem is, everytime I think of Jesus, all I get as an visual is a REALLY UGLY black Jamaican guy who wont shut up.
It would take YEARS of therapy to erase that issue.
Like your sexual lifestyle you have a WARPED definition of ugly. I am NOT ugly using western standards. At the very least regardless of race I would be considered attractive even now in my middle years.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57092 Aug 20, 2013
Eric wrote:
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My belief system has never caused me to become ill. Your belief system not only is morally sick but has made you physically sick. Maybe your body is trying to tell you something.
I understand, Eric. It is common knowledge among the exposed that persons who are ill and especially the illness that afflicts you don't know that they are ill. Medication tends to have a sedative effect on people like you but it is not curative.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57093 Aug 20, 2013
Oh, my boy Frijoles had you not been pauperized I would bet you that most persons would think that I am far better looking than you are. Given that I am CONFIDENT of this reality then you must be grotesque, if I am ugly.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57094 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Sexual intercourse is masturbation inside a woman or inside a man as the case may be.
It is self-evident to me that it could be considered by some to be MASTERbation but it could not be considered masturbation.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57095 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Genetically, not by beliefs. Those evil beliefs/practices, I gave up at the age 14 or so after discovering how evil and perverse the teachings of the tanach were.
The integral yoga has put me into direct contact with the ranges of consciousness but after a time I got trapped for sometime when that evil sorcerer (ex-master) intervened....it always happened that when you make rapid progress in the yoga, the hostile vital beings decide to block progress using any means. Now, I'm free of him and am on the sidelines recovering and the yogic experiences like the one this morning keep coming spontaneously without me making any effort. I have been seeing the inner light and hearing the subtle sounds since age 4. The subtle experiences shut down at age 8 or 9 and remained shut all throughout school at Cathedral and later at IIT. They began soon after stepping out of IIT at age 23 and that's when I made a serious attempt at yoga. Job? I don't need to work since we have always been very well off.
Today, I am 28 and the yogic experiences are still continuing albeit spontaneously.
How do you define mind?
Do you think there exist ranges of consciousness that exceed mind?
Which range of consciousness could be infra-mental?
What is matter?
Hugh---Joel is your clansman.

Joel---Genetically, not by beliefs

Hugh--- I have known it for years and I first mentioned it on this forum about 2 years ago. Regardless of beliefs, YOU cannot change the fact that BIOLOGICALLY you are a Jew and that status is not one of disgrace.

What you must be ashamed of is your inability to take instructions. I have instructed you many moons ago to get a beautiful Indian woman both in character and in looks for the purposes of-- sitting on your face, marriage/companionship and for offspring.

Note, you don't have to marry a fellow Jew, Indians are quite nice.

Now go do as you are told and tell me about the experiences.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57096 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
my parents damaged me tremendously in emotions and mind owing to their serious incompatibility and constant fights and vicious abuses. my ex-master completed my destruction. the yoga continues but here i am almost fully bruised in mind and emotions with little hope of complete recovery. if those vicious after-effects get worse, it'll result in my death or in a suicide. i am almost completely finished in emotions and mind. i can't stabilize despite having so much on all fronts. what's keeping me alive till now are those yoga experiences that step in at the right moment to rescue me just when things are set to get worse or seriously damaging. then after the yogic experience recedes, it's ok for some time and then the same torture begins again. i want out. either forward and into supramentalization or death through a force attack or self-destruction through suicide. i can't take it any more.
much good will.
Your masters damaged you. Thanks to Jesus this damage can be corrected when you experience the joy of vaginal sex.

Your parents only damaged you in giving you too much of an easy life. Leave the people alone.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#57097 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
I see no contradiction in rearing pigs and pork consumption in a Zionist state and ban on import of pork. The logic is simple and self-explanatory.
Why did you ignore answering my question?
Once again - why do you abstain from eating pork? Is it because some evil Satan-worshipper like Abraham, David, Elijah or Moses prohibited it grounds that the anatomical feature of a pig did not fit in with their notion of permissible or impermissible? Does this stupid reasoning make any sense? LOL.
Cut the BS and explain this---due to a law that BANS the import-ation of NON-KOSHER (PORK) ALL of the PORK sold in Israel is RAISED and processed in the HOLY Land.

Hint: Is there such a thing as kosher pork based on the sentence?

If you disagree that there is such a thing as kosher pork, based on the sentence, state what is wrong with the sentence and do your correction.

Since: Aug 13

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Denver, CO

#57100 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Today is a day that's celebrated by all Indians as protection day (raksha bandhan) when brothers pledge to protect their sisters through a touching ritual of the sister tying a slim silk thread on the right wrist of her brother. i am at home and have no sister to protect. may she rest in peace. bye. resting.
rabbee: is that Kiowa, or Comanche tribes? oh self great yoda???
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#57101 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what should be done with the vast inheritance?
Give it away to charity - to parasitic people who're genetically inferior where materialism is concerned and who need donations from the wealthy or from the state to survive? I donate money only to the truly deserving needy ones and help them realize their inherent capacity and to thereby fend for themselves when they're fit enough to do so.
It's only natural for parents to pass down their material assets to their offspring.
I have multiplied my inheritance through smart investments in prime real estate, blue chip industries and so on.
I've not squandered any of my late parents' money on booze, sexual exploits, prostitutes, drugs or by funding terrorist states/groups.
rabbee: well being insane, does not necessarily mean being stupid. but you still were not very good, at playing marbles when you were a child.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57102 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Those who're true spiritual aspirants with great innate capacity for yogic experiences are always attacked and at times maimed or killed by Satan and its subordinates.
The problem is that you are NOT being attacked by Satan. You are being attacked by those who believe as you. You cultist Master is of your ilk. From what you said, he is still attacking you. Don't blame the Jews. You are being attacked from within.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57103 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
So, what should be done with the vast inheritance?
Give it away to charity - to parasitic people who're genetically inferior where materialism is concerned and who need donations from the wealthy or from the state to survive? I donate money only to the truly deserving needy ones and help them realize their inherent capacity and to thereby fend for themselves when they're fit enough to do so.
It's only natural for parents to pass down their material assets to their offspring.
I have multiplied my inheritance through smart investments in prime real estate, blue chip industries and so on.
I've not squandered any of my late parents' money on booze, sexual exploits, prostitutes, drugs or by funding terrorist states/groups.
Then why are you incessantly complaining about your parents. They are the ones who have facilitated your meaningless existence.

There are extremely wealthy people in the world who don't sit around clipping coupons all day and threatening suicide. Maybe you need a better belief system.
Eric

Villa Park, IL

#57104 Aug 20, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Each person survives in keeping with his awakened innate genetic capacity and karma.
Inherent cause-effect mechanisms guide every aspect of existence.
No freebies, here.
mankind does not survive under your system. It dies off in one lifespan because there is no procreation.

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