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JOEL

India

#56321 Jul 25, 2013
A motionless indrawn state of consciousness is simply a trance and is neither a nondual experience nor is it the still subtler condition which is samadhi.
JOEL

India

#56322 Jul 25, 2013
Seeing a fire, a burning bush, a throne, a winged horse, winged angels, a cube, an ascending staircase, animal-human hybrid forms or circles of light and hearing an inner voice or a clap of thunder are experienced in trance but these trance experiences are not a nondual experience nor are they samadhi (stasis) which are superior conditions.
JOEL

India

#56323 Jul 25, 2013
Deep in the forests near Omkareshwar where the mighty Narmada flows is located the cave of the great sage Patanjali who lived thousands of years ago. He is famous for compiling the profound treatise Patanajli Yog Sutras (Aphorisms of Yoga by Patanjali). He compiled the yogic experiences of sages who lived much before him and included in the account his own subtle experiences of meditation, trance, nondualism and stasis. The rare travellers to Patanjali's cave in the deep forest say it is virtually inaccessible and camoflaged by thick mist. It is said that a perennial light permates the inside of the cave and that Patanjali manifests his body in the cave at times to this day.....
JOEL

India

#56324 Jul 25, 2013
If there was a problem yo i'll solve it, check out the hook while my DJ revolves it.

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56325 Jul 25, 2013
Apparently it enjoys talking to itself
Voluntarist

United States

#56326 Jul 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
thats a book, not published research. Do you know the difference?
Are you just marginally retarded or all the way?

The chart is there.
Voluntarist

United States

#56327 Jul 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The issue here is NOT what the baseline decline rate was. The issue is whether vaccines cause a decrease or not.
All that stat does is highlight the control part of a study. Show me the research that says treatment does not result in a decline. Then I will be impressed.
And book summaries are not proper sources of data. Actual research is.
That is proving a negative, the graph shows that it was in the decline before the vaccines were introduced.
You will have to show proof that the vaccines worked.
Saying that polio was eradicated doesn't prove that vaccines work.
Then you have the stunning admission that aids was brought over from infected monkeys.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56328 Jul 25, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
That is proving a negative, the graph shows that it was in the decline before the vaccines were introduced.
You will have to show proof that the vaccines worked.
Saying that polio was eradicated doesn't prove that vaccines work.
Then you have the stunning admission that aids was brought over from infected monkeys.
I dont have to show proof that vaccines work because I am not the one who is claiming that vaccines dont work. You made the claim, I asked you to back it up.

Providing baseline is not proof, nor is linking to some summary book.

You are more slippery than a bar of slope.
stephan Weil

Bradenton, FL

#56329 Jul 25, 2013
The zionist thought police don't always knock on your door.............the AIPAC lobby knocks on the doors of government.............and bullies , bribes and infiltrate all media and all forums... to make sure that the Evil FUSION CENTERS are misused to promote zio-censorship and the JDL - KABALLAH fifth column...........picture thousands of fugitive slave patrols and george zimmerman / Bernie Kerik / Anthony Weiner / mark ciavarella / mike nifong / mike raphan / Pam Geller wanabees pushing the MASADA MYTH and pretending to be victims...........while acting as bullies and entitled to call COLONIES , settlements............see BY WAY OF DECEPTION , Goldstone Report , Operation Greylord and FIVE BROKEN CAMERAS............Watch out for the AIPAC thought police in cars with FL tags 246 PFU , GOAMG , IAC 522 , ALL99, 243 PIE , 244 PIE , 668 PCK , LXE 904 , J36 4LI, 494 MIU , M80 5EU .
Voluntarist

United States

#56330 Jul 25, 2013
Democratic Leaders: All Americans “May Be In Communication With
Terrorists”
Lawmakers Endorse NSA spying with bizarre justification
Steve Watson
Infowars.com
July 25, 2013
The Democratic leadership nailed its colors to the big brother surveillance state mast firmly
yesterday, with many voting in favor of NSA spying. Most bizarre, however, was the party line
justification for doing so.
As noted in an article at The Huffington Post, the Democratic whip Steny Hoyer, whose role is to
convince party members to toe the line and vote in accordance with the Obama administration,
sent around a startling message to House Democrats.
While attempting to justify complete violation of the Fourth Amendment, Hoyer urged Democrats
that the NSA snooping program recently exposed by Edward Snowden was aimed primarily at
Americans who are attempting to communicate with terrorists.
According to the article, Hoyer’s emailed floor update read:
Amash/Conyers/Mulvaney/Polis/M assie Amendment – Bars the NSA and other agencies from
using Section 215 of the Patriot Act (as codified by Section 501 of FISA) to collect records,
including telephone call records, that pertain to persons who may be in communication
with terrorist groups but are not already subject to an investigation under Section 215
Really? Did any Democrats actually believe this?
The entire reason why the vote on the NSA program was taking place was because of the
revelations that the snooping is aimed at every American.
The raging debate on the surveillance tactics was enflamed only because it was proven that the
PRISM operation was all encompassing.
The NSA was shown to be operationally recording every single phone call, email, text and instant
message made in America and beyond. Even the most casual of news readers is aware of this.
For Democrat leaders to attempt to convince representatives that the program was aimed only at
select individuals is grossly misleading at best, and at worst is just an outright lie.
That is unless you assume that every single American “may be in communication with terrorist
groups”– and therein lies the rub.
Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who broke the Snowden/NSA revelations, writes of the Democratic
leadership today:
“Not only did they all vote against de-funding the NSA bulk domestic spying program… but Pelosi’s
deputy, Steny Hoyer, whipped against the bill by channeling the warped language and mentality of
Dick Cheney.”

http://www.infowars.com/democratic-leaders-al...
Voluntarist

United States

#56331 Jul 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I dont have to show proof that vaccines work because I am not the one who is claiming that vaccines dont work. You made the claim, I asked you to back it up.
Providing baseline is not proof, nor is linking to some summary book.
You are more slippery than a bar of slope.
I stated proof that vaccines work , none
proof that vaccines are safe , none
polio was already on the decline when vaccines were introduced.
Learn how to read.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56332 Jul 25, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I stated proof that vaccines work , none
proof that vaccines are safe , none
polio was already on the decline when vaccines were introduced.
Learn how to read.
I do know how to read.

You are committing logical errors. One cant prove a negative.

and quoting junk science doesnt make you any more credible.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56333 Jul 25, 2013
Yawn. Dunces. LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56334 Jul 25, 2013
HUGH HAPPY HUMPER,

Do you live in a favela like the ones in Brazil?

(smiles)

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#56335 Jul 25, 2013
"A man can be happy with any woman so long as he doesn't love her."

- Oscar Wilde

Oscar Wilde was gay.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56338 Jul 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
"A man can be happy with any woman so long as he doesn't love her."
- Oscar Wilde
Oscar Wilde was gay.
So you have things in common.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56343 Jul 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Hugh,
All you think of is having sex or masturbating. Disgusting.
Not true I also think about other things e.g. bathing.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56344 Jul 26, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
TMI
(and if true, very pathetic considering you are married with a partner, and surrounded by farm animals to boot!)
1. Don't be moved by envy. Put it this way not because self-stimulation is done 8 or more times a month by me means that you ought to covet your neighbours ability. No doubt it would take you about 8 months to get the pencil up 8 times in total and so the bad mind.

2. There is nothing pathetic it is pleasurable.

3. My farm animals are free to roam on the other hand your house dog is confined and so I pity the dog when it comes to its once monthly event with you.

Much love MON from Jamaica.

PS: Have Joel sent you the ticket as yet? He needs servicing.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#56345 Jul 26, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
"A man can be happy with any woman so long as he doesn't love her."
- Oscar Wilde
Oscar Wilde was gay.
So ARE; Frijoles, Eric, Former, Culti and of course YOU.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#56346 Jul 26, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

PS: Have Joel sent you the ticket as yet? He needs servicing.
He's embarrassed by my offer as I made it on a public forum!

(grins)

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