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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56310 Jul 25, 2013
From today Hugh shall be Known as HUGH HUMPER MICHAEL JACKSON.

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56311 Jul 25, 2013
Oh look. It wants attention again.
JOEL

India

#56312 Jul 25, 2013
Stasis is the culmination of trance.
JOEL

India

#56313 Jul 25, 2013
Not every trance experience leads to the nondual union in consciousness of the object with the subject.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56314 Jul 25, 2013
Depending on the subject of meditation, the meditator's consciousness may enter trance if the aspiration is deep enough and if the mantra on which one meditates gets sufficiently activated but once trance sets in with the reversal of the meditator's consciousness and its opening up then too the trance may simply involve the seeing of a few inner lights/flares, hearing subtle sounds, or being spoken to by a voice that is the sonic aspect of the mantra, seed syllable or typal being that is the focus of one's meditation. These manifestations may arise in the tranced consciousness of the seer but it does not necessarily lead to a nondual union in consciousness of the meditator with the range of consciousness that one comes into direct contact with during meditation and the subsequent trance that ensues. This is why seers like Abraham, Moses, Muhammad, Bahaullah (founder of Bahaism), Zoroaster and Joan of Arc never spoke of nondualism but always mentioned a voice with the concomitant imagery of the vision. They came into contact via trance with various archetypal beings of different planes of consciousness -each calling itself god - and so these seers failed to understand the superior poise in consciousness which is nondualism. A sage who through trance unites in consciousness with the typal consciousness of a particular plane or with an archetypal being of that specific plane experiences the nondual state of existence. The sage who goes beyond the archetypal being of a particular plane and who penetrates and exceeds the phenomenal aspects of that particular plane and enters into the underlying principle that supports that plane with its inherent phenomena and archetypal beings is a higher nondualist and if he then enters into stasis with all the internal and external forces coming into a state of perfect balance then he is beyond monism and after the cessation of the experience he refuses to speak of the stasis since this condition in consciousness is so subtle that it is simply a profound inner experience that defies verbal description, even the most carefullly worded one. Stasis like trance and monism is of varying degreees and is attainable on any plane of consciousness with respect to the perfect blance of the forces of consciousness and energy of that particular plane of cosmic or supracosmic existence.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56315 Jul 25, 2013
Stasis exceeds trance and nondualism though it is attained via these.
Eric

Mount Prospect, IL

#56316 Jul 25, 2013
I'd rather hear about your master tricked you and made a fool of you, wasting more than a year of your life.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56317 Jul 25, 2013
Nondualism is the culmination of trance.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#56318 Jul 25, 2013
Stasis is the culmination of nondualism.
JOEL

India

#56319 Jul 25, 2013
Samadhi (pronunciation - samaadhee) is the Sanskrit word for Stasis.
JOEL

India

#56320 Jul 25, 2013
MUST READ:

The millennia-old Yoga Sutras of the great sage Patanjali is a rich mine of information on the science of meditation and samadhi and their accompanying stages and results.
JOEL

India

#56321 Jul 25, 2013
A motionless indrawn state of consciousness is simply a trance and is neither a nondual experience nor is it the still subtler condition which is samadhi.
JOEL

India

#56322 Jul 25, 2013
Seeing a fire, a burning bush, a throne, a winged horse, winged angels, a cube, an ascending staircase, animal-human hybrid forms or circles of light and hearing an inner voice or a clap of thunder are experienced in trance but these trance experiences are not a nondual experience nor are they samadhi (stasis) which are superior conditions.
JOEL

India

#56323 Jul 25, 2013
Deep in the forests near Omkareshwar where the mighty Narmada flows is located the cave of the great sage Patanjali who lived thousands of years ago. He is famous for compiling the profound treatise Patanajli Yog Sutras (Aphorisms of Yoga by Patanjali). He compiled the yogic experiences of sages who lived much before him and included in the account his own subtle experiences of meditation, trance, nondualism and stasis. The rare travellers to Patanjali's cave in the deep forest say it is virtually inaccessible and camoflaged by thick mist. It is said that a perennial light permates the inside of the cave and that Patanjali manifests his body in the cave at times to this day.....
JOEL

India

#56324 Jul 25, 2013
If there was a problem yo i'll solve it, check out the hook while my DJ revolves it.

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56325 Jul 25, 2013
Apparently it enjoys talking to itself
Voluntarist

United States

#56326 Jul 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
thats a book, not published research. Do you know the difference?
Are you just marginally retarded or all the way?

The chart is there.
Voluntarist

United States

#56327 Jul 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The issue here is NOT what the baseline decline rate was. The issue is whether vaccines cause a decrease or not.
All that stat does is highlight the control part of a study. Show me the research that says treatment does not result in a decline. Then I will be impressed.
And book summaries are not proper sources of data. Actual research is.
That is proving a negative, the graph shows that it was in the decline before the vaccines were introduced.
You will have to show proof that the vaccines worked.
Saying that polio was eradicated doesn't prove that vaccines work.
Then you have the stunning admission that aids was brought over from infected monkeys.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56328 Jul 25, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
That is proving a negative, the graph shows that it was in the decline before the vaccines were introduced.
You will have to show proof that the vaccines worked.
Saying that polio was eradicated doesn't prove that vaccines work.
Then you have the stunning admission that aids was brought over from infected monkeys.
I dont have to show proof that vaccines work because I am not the one who is claiming that vaccines dont work. You made the claim, I asked you to back it up.

Providing baseline is not proof, nor is linking to some summary book.

You are more slippery than a bar of slope.
stephan Weil

Bradenton, FL

#56329 Jul 25, 2013
The zionist thought police don't always knock on your door.............the AIPAC lobby knocks on the doors of government.............and bullies , bribes and infiltrate all media and all forums... to make sure that the Evil FUSION CENTERS are misused to promote zio-censorship and the JDL - KABALLAH fifth column...........picture thousands of fugitive slave patrols and george zimmerman / Bernie Kerik / Anthony Weiner / mark ciavarella / mike nifong / mike raphan / Pam Geller wanabees pushing the MASADA MYTH and pretending to be victims...........while acting as bullies and entitled to call COLONIES , settlements............see BY WAY OF DECEPTION , Goldstone Report , Operation Greylord and FIVE BROKEN CAMERAS............Watch out for the AIPAC thought police in cars with FL tags 246 PFU , GOAMG , IAC 522 , ALL99, 243 PIE , 244 PIE , 668 PCK , LXE 904 , J36 4LI, 494 MIU , M80 5EU .

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