Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

Full story: Newsday

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.
Comments
50,601 - 50,620 of 68,368 Comments Last updated 9 hrs ago

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56263
Jul 23, 2013
 
mmmmmm, yawn.
Eric

Lombard, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56264
Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
The millennia-old ancient Sanskrit text, Surya Siddhanta, speaks about construction of a wooden globe of earth and marking of horizontal circles, equatorial circles and further divisions. Some very ancient Puranas say that the map making had great practical value for the administrative, navigational and military purposes....
(source: Ancient Indians knew Atlantic Ocean - By Dr. V.Siva Prasad Retired Professor of Engineering. Andhra University, India).
Still no polio.
Eric

Lombard, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56265
Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
I'm horny.
Hugh, where are you, honey?
(wink wink)
I guess that's an admission of defeat.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56266
Jul 23, 2013
 
HUGH,

Hey A-Level Math nerd,

When are you going to solve that simple problem on the monkey and the pole?

It's so easy to solve and can be done mentally in seconds.

(smiles in advance)

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56267
Jul 23, 2013
 
POLIO VACCINE A FAILURE:

The Hidden History Of The Polio Vaccine


http://www.henrymakow.com/hidden_history_of_v...

Polio Was NOT Eradicated By The Vaccine

From Patricia Doyle, PhD

12-16-10



No one realizes that at the same time polio cases began to wane, the first world was improving sewage and water systems. I would liken the reduction in cases to improved potent water supplies and to improved sewage treatment. I remember in the early 1950's the city of Yonkers, NY came to the suburb of Yonkers, Sherwood Park, east yonkers and actually required us to hook up to the sewer system. At that time our home was using a cess pool and well water. Many homes, mostly older, in my area used the cess pool and well water systems.


Polio is actually spread via feces/oral route. I would wager that President Roosevelt got his polio swimming in the Hudson river which is where many of my neighbors got their polio. I remember seeing signs which read "No Swimming due to Polio" in Alpine NJ along beaches on the Hudson River. The Hudson was notorious for having raw sewage enter it.


If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpetrated.


So, Polio vaccine ending the polio outbreak in the first world? It's a completer MYTH.

ROFL

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56268
Jul 23, 2013
 
POLIO VACCINE CAUSING POLIO:

Polio, a contagious disease caused by an intestinal virus, can cause difficulty breathing and paralysis as the virus attacks and kills motor nerve cells that control your muscles. It can also cause death in its most severe form.

However, what is not often shared is that in most cases polio is a mild illness, causing flu-like symptoms that disappear in two to 10 days. Often, polio can occur and show no symptoms at all.

Even the Mayo Clinic states:



"The vast majority of people who are infected with the polio virus don't become sick and are never aware they've been infected with polio."

Vaccine-Caused Polio on the Rise!

Another fact that may surprise you is that the vaccine itself is the source of newer cases of this disease.

At the same time that world health officials are declaring a victory on polio in India, they are calling a global meeting in Switzerland on the problem of vaccine-caused polio.

The problem is that while the oral vaccine has reined in wild polio, the wild virus is being replaced by vaccine-derived polio virus (VDPV), which causes acute flaccid paralysis.(Health officials don't call it polio because it isn't "wild.") The international meeting, organized by the World Health Organization (WHO) in collaboration with the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Japanese Ministry of Health, is scheduled for May 30-June 1, 2012, in Geneva, Switzerland.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/ar...

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56269
Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
POLIO VACCINE A FAILURE:
The Hidden History Of The Polio Vaccine
http://www.henrymakow.com/hidden_history_of_v...
Polio Was NOT Eradicated By The Vaccine
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
12-16-10
No one realizes that at the same time polio cases began to wane, the first world was improving sewage and water systems. I would liken the reduction in cases to improved potent water supplies and to improved sewage treatment. I remember in the early 1950's the city of Yonkers, NY came to the suburb of Yonkers, Sherwood Park, east yonkers and actually required us to hook up to the sewer system. At that time our home was using a cess pool and well water. Many homes, mostly older, in my area used the cess pool and well water systems.
Polio is actually spread via feces/oral route. I would wager that President Roosevelt got his polio swimming in the Hudson river which is where many of my neighbors got their polio. I remember seeing signs which read "No Swimming due to Polio" in Alpine NJ along beaches on the Hudson River. The Hudson was notorious for having raw sewage enter it.
If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpetrated.
So, Polio vaccine ending the polio outbreak in the first world? It's a completer MYTH.
ROFL
Kindly provide us with the published research that supports her hypothesis.

Thank you in advance
Eric

Lombard, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56270
Jul 23, 2013
 
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
POLIO VACCINE A FAILURE:
The Hidden History Of The Polio Vaccine
http://www.henrymakow.com/hidden_history_of_v...
Polio Was NOT Eradicated By The Vaccine
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
12-16-10
No one realizes that at the same time polio cases began to wane, the first world was improving sewage and water systems. I would liken the reduction in cases to improved potent water supplies and to improved sewage treatment. I remember in the early 1950's the city of Yonkers, NY came to the suburb of Yonkers, Sherwood Park, east yonkers and actually required us to hook up to the sewer system. At that time our home was using a cess pool and well water. Many homes, mostly older, in my area used the cess pool and well water systems.
Polio is actually spread via feces/oral route. I would wager that President Roosevelt got his polio swimming in the Hudson river which is where many of my neighbors got their polio. I remember seeing signs which read "No Swimming due to Polio" in Alpine NJ along beaches on the Hudson River. The Hudson was notorious for having raw sewage enter it.
If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpetrated.
So, Polio vaccine ending the polio outbreak in the first world? It's a completer MYTH.
ROFL
I can't help it if the Indians refuse to use the vaccine. Number of instances are way down.

The numbers in the "first world" immediately reduced. It saved countless lives before new infrastructure could be established.

Now, how does any of this show that Salk and Sabin stole the vaccine from others.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56271
Jul 23, 2013
 
Vaccination against poliomyelitis in economically underdeveloped countries –

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...

“Contrary to oft-expressed dogma, high rates of paralytic poliomyelitis are occurring annually in regions with high infant mortality rates, continuing undernutrition, and absence of basic sanitary facilities.“

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56272
Jul 23, 2013
 
POLIO VACCINE FAILS IN INDIA DUE TO POLLUTED DRINKING WATER:

Posted on June 13, 2013 by The Refusers

By MB June 13, 2013

This Bloomberg article reveals that the polio vaccine is a failure in India. The vaccine is ‘failing to work’ in kids getting as many as 15 doses of Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) in one of the most expensive public health campaign flops in history ($9 billion).

What do you expect when these poor people are drinking contaminated water and walking barefoot through raw sewage?

http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/poli...

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56273
Jul 23, 2013
 
Not only are they (polio vaccines) failing, but vaccine adverse reactions may have caused ‘47,500 new cases of “non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP)” in children reported in 2011.’

The billions of dollars spent on failing vaccine programs is wasted and should have been spent on clean drinking water and sewage systems. Bill Gates’ vision of eliminating disease by vaccinated every child in the world repeatedly is an abject failure and the product of a deranged, misguided and megalomaniacal public health tyrant.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56274
Jul 23, 2013
 
1) Sanitation is an even bigger problem than lack of water - with 2.5 billion people worldwide suffering from lack of a good enough toilet or latrine.

2) Human waste is full of dangerous bacteria that can cause diseases like cholera, typhoid, infectious hepatitis, polio, cryptosporidiosis, and ascariasis. When waste is not properly managed, it can come into contact with skin, water, insects and other things that ultimately transfer the bacteria back into the human body where it can make people sick.

http://www.globalcitizen.org/Content/Content....

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56275
Jul 23, 2013
 
Vaccines alone don’t eradicate disease; polio spreads largely through feces-contaminated water, so ignoring the poor sanitation and lack of clean water in third-world countries, along with the lack of healthy food to support their immune systems, is ignorant if the goal is really to eradicate the disease.

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2012/08/confi...

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56276
Jul 23, 2013
 
There's a whole list of failed or deadly vaccines.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56277
Jul 23, 2013
 
Mercury in Vaccines?

Toxic mercury exposure has a wide range of adverse health effects.
Eric

Lombard, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56278
Jul 23, 2013
 
Joel, have you tired of deflection yet?

Please prove this statement as it relates to polio vaccine:

White Gentile scientists are the real geniuses while the Jewish scientists for the most part are plagiarists, thieves and jokers.

You have named no one who developed the polio vaccine prior to Salk and Sabin.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56279
Jul 23, 2013
 
DEADLY SUBSTANCES USED IN VACCINES:

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control's vaccine additives page, all the following ingredients are routinely used as vaccine additives:

• Aluminum - A light metal that causes dementia and Alzheimer's disease. You should never inject yourself with aluminum.

• Antibiotics - Chemicals that promote superbugs, which are deadly antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria that are killing tens of thousands of Americans every year.

• Formaldehyde - A "pickling" chemical used to preserve cadavers. It's highly toxic to the nervous system, causing blindness, brain damage and seizures. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services openly admits that formaldehyde causes cancer. You can see this yourself on the National Toxicology Program website, featuring its 12th Report on Carcinogens.

There, the formaldehyde Fact Sheet completely neglects to mention formaldehyde in vaccines.

This is the "dirty little secret" of government and the vaccine industry. It does state, however, that "...formaldehyde causes myeloid leukemia, and rare cancers including sinonasal and nasopharyngeal cancer."

• Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)- A neurotoxic chemical called an "excitotoxin." It causes brain neurons to be overexcited to the point of death. MSG is toxic even when consumed in foods, where it causes migraine headaches and endocrine system damage. You should NEVER inject MSG into your body. But that's what health workers do when they inject you with vaccines.

• Thimerosal - A methyl mercury compound that causes severe, permanent nervous system damage. Mercury is highly toxic to the brain. You should never touch, swallow or inject mercury at any dose. There is no safe dose of mercury! Doctors and vaccine pushers LIE to you and say there is no mercury in vaccines. Even the CDC readily admits vaccine still contain mercury (thimerosal).

In addition, National Toxicology Programs admits in its own documents that:

• Vaccinations "...may produce small but measurable increases in blood levels of mercury."

• "Thimerosal was found to cross the blood-brain and placenta barriers."

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_add...

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56280
Jul 23, 2013
 
Toxic pesticides and polio:

A clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related physiology just described, leaves little room for complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation. Polio shows no movement independent from pesticide movement, as one would expect if it were caused by a virus. Both the medical and popular imaginations are haunted by the image of a virus that invades (or infects) and begins replicating to the point of producing disease.

In the laboratory, however, poliovirus does not easily behave in such a predatory manner. Laboratory attempts to demonstrate causation are performed under conditions which are extremely artificial and aberrant.

Polio outbreaks occurred most often during the summer and were blamed on viruses picked up in swimming pools. But summer was the time when DDT spraying was at its peak and exposure would have been greatest, either directly or through foods from animals eating sprayed crops. Summer foods like ice cream from DDT-sprayed dairy cows would have been a likely source.

http://www.westonaprice.org/environmental-tox...
Eric

Lombard, IL

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56281
Jul 23, 2013
 
yawn, still no proof, Joel. Thought not.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#56282
Jul 23, 2013
 
Eric wrote:
Please prove this statement as it relates to polio vaccine:
White Gentile scientists are the real geniuses while the Jewish scientists for the most part are plagiarists, thieves and jokers.
You have named no one who developed the polio vaccine prior to Salk and Sabin.
Did Salk and Sabine invent vaccines in the first place?

All they did was to expand the work of others on vaccination/immunization and apply it to one disease called polio.

So, is vaccination per se as a means of immunization their unique idea?

No, ancient ayurveda and in modern times Pasteur are the originators of the method of vaccination.

Polio vaccine is a failure in many ways as shown above.

There are dozens of vaccines developed for deadly diseases but vaccination has its limitations and drawbacks as posted in many posts above.

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

103 Users are viewing the Chicago Forum right now

Search the Chicago Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
Abby 7-24 9 min pde 31
BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 10 min Rogue Scholar 05 174,527
Barack Obama, our next President (Nov '08) 14 min Patrick 1,079,436
Ill. House Approves Legalizing Same-Sex Civil U... (Dec '10) 18 min Terry rigsby 48,887
Topix Chitown Regulars (Aug '09) 19 min Toj 97,522
Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas decl... (Jan '09) 27 min voice of peace 67,906
Possible Health Effects of Radiation Exposure a... 29 min CDC 1
Amy 7-24 1 hr Kuuipo 18
•••
•••
•••

Chicago Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Chicago People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Chicago News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Chicago
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••