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Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56270 Jul 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
POLIO VACCINE A FAILURE:
The Hidden History Of The Polio Vaccine
http://www.henrymakow.com/hidden_history_of_v...
Polio Was NOT Eradicated By The Vaccine
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
12-16-10
No one realizes that at the same time polio cases began to wane, the first world was improving sewage and water systems. I would liken the reduction in cases to improved potent water supplies and to improved sewage treatment. I remember in the early 1950's the city of Yonkers, NY came to the suburb of Yonkers, Sherwood Park, east yonkers and actually required us to hook up to the sewer system. At that time our home was using a cess pool and well water. Many homes, mostly older, in my area used the cess pool and well water systems.
Polio is actually spread via feces/oral route. I would wager that President Roosevelt got his polio swimming in the Hudson river which is where many of my neighbors got their polio. I remember seeing signs which read "No Swimming due to Polio" in Alpine NJ along beaches on the Hudson River. The Hudson was notorious for having raw sewage enter it.
If polio vaccine is the sole reason for ending the spread of polio in the first world, then why hasn't polio ended in India, the Congo and other countries? There have been countless polio vaccine campaigns year after year in Africa, India etc yet we keep hearing about outbreaks, currently, India and Africa have polio outbreaks. The answer is not vaccine but sanitation. In countries that have raw sewage entering the rivers, lakes etc where people use these same waterways for drinking and cooking the disease will never die away. The money spent on vaccine is only a fraction of what it would cost to put in decent sanitation which would include sewers and sewage treatment along with providing potable safe drinking water in the third world, so, consequently, the pharma industry with a lot to lose talks about the reduction of polio via vaccine. Ergo, the myth is perpetrated.
So, Polio vaccine ending the polio outbreak in the first world? It's a completer MYTH.
ROFL
I can't help it if the Indians refuse to use the vaccine. Number of instances are way down.

The numbers in the "first world" immediately reduced. It saved countless lives before new infrastructure could be established.

Now, how does any of this show that Salk and Sabin stole the vaccine from others.

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#56271 Jul 23, 2013
Vaccination against poliomyelitis in economically underdeveloped countries –

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...

“Contrary to oft-expressed dogma, high rates of paralytic poliomyelitis are occurring annually in regions with high infant mortality rates, continuing undernutrition, and absence of basic sanitary facilities.“

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#56272 Jul 23, 2013
POLIO VACCINE FAILS IN INDIA DUE TO POLLUTED DRINKING WATER:

Posted on June 13, 2013 by The Refusers

By MB June 13, 2013

This Bloomberg article reveals that the polio vaccine is a failure in India. The vaccine is ‘failing to work’ in kids getting as many as 15 doses of Oral Polio Vaccine (OPV) in one of the most expensive public health campaign flops in history ($9 billion).

What do you expect when these poor people are drinking contaminated water and walking barefoot through raw sewage?

http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/poli...

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#56273 Jul 23, 2013
Not only are they (polio vaccines) failing, but vaccine adverse reactions may have caused ‘47,500 new cases of “non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP)” in children reported in 2011.’

The billions of dollars spent on failing vaccine programs is wasted and should have been spent on clean drinking water and sewage systems. Bill Gates’ vision of eliminating disease by vaccinated every child in the world repeatedly is an abject failure and the product of a deranged, misguided and megalomaniacal public health tyrant.

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#56274 Jul 23, 2013
1) Sanitation is an even bigger problem than lack of water - with 2.5 billion people worldwide suffering from lack of a good enough toilet or latrine.

2) Human waste is full of dangerous bacteria that can cause diseases like cholera, typhoid, infectious hepatitis, polio, cryptosporidiosis, and ascariasis. When waste is not properly managed, it can come into contact with skin, water, insects and other things that ultimately transfer the bacteria back into the human body where it can make people sick.

http://www.globalcitizen.org/Content/Content....

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#56275 Jul 23, 2013
Vaccines alone don’t eradicate disease; polio spreads largely through feces-contaminated water, so ignoring the poor sanitation and lack of clean water in third-world countries, along with the lack of healthy food to support their immune systems, is ignorant if the goal is really to eradicate the disease.

http://beforeitsnews.com/health/2012/08/confi...

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#56276 Jul 23, 2013
There's a whole list of failed or deadly vaccines.

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#56277 Jul 23, 2013
Mercury in Vaccines?

Toxic mercury exposure has a wide range of adverse health effects.
Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56278 Jul 23, 2013
Joel, have you tired of deflection yet?

Please prove this statement as it relates to polio vaccine:

White Gentile scientists are the real geniuses while the Jewish scientists for the most part are plagiarists, thieves and jokers.

You have named no one who developed the polio vaccine prior to Salk and Sabin.

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#56279 Jul 23, 2013
DEADLY SUBSTANCES USED IN VACCINES:

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control's vaccine additives page, all the following ingredients are routinely used as vaccine additives:

• Aluminum - A light metal that causes dementia and Alzheimer's disease. You should never inject yourself with aluminum.

• Antibiotics - Chemicals that promote superbugs, which are deadly antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria that are killing tens of thousands of Americans every year.

• Formaldehyde - A "pickling" chemical used to preserve cadavers. It's highly toxic to the nervous system, causing blindness, brain damage and seizures. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services openly admits that formaldehyde causes cancer. You can see this yourself on the National Toxicology Program website, featuring its 12th Report on Carcinogens.

There, the formaldehyde Fact Sheet completely neglects to mention formaldehyde in vaccines.

This is the "dirty little secret" of government and the vaccine industry. It does state, however, that "...formaldehyde causes myeloid leukemia, and rare cancers including sinonasal and nasopharyngeal cancer."

• Monosodium Glutamate (MSG)- A neurotoxic chemical called an "excitotoxin." It causes brain neurons to be overexcited to the point of death. MSG is toxic even when consumed in foods, where it causes migraine headaches and endocrine system damage. You should NEVER inject MSG into your body. But that's what health workers do when they inject you with vaccines.

• Thimerosal - A methyl mercury compound that causes severe, permanent nervous system damage. Mercury is highly toxic to the brain. You should never touch, swallow or inject mercury at any dose. There is no safe dose of mercury! Doctors and vaccine pushers LIE to you and say there is no mercury in vaccines. Even the CDC readily admits vaccine still contain mercury (thimerosal).

In addition, National Toxicology Programs admits in its own documents that:

• Vaccinations "...may produce small but measurable increases in blood levels of mercury."

• "Thimerosal was found to cross the blood-brain and placenta barriers."

http://www.naturalnews.com/037653_vaccine_add...

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#56280 Jul 23, 2013
Toxic pesticides and polio:

A clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related physiology just described, leaves little room for complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation. Polio shows no movement independent from pesticide movement, as one would expect if it were caused by a virus. Both the medical and popular imaginations are haunted by the image of a virus that invades (or infects) and begins replicating to the point of producing disease.

In the laboratory, however, poliovirus does not easily behave in such a predatory manner. Laboratory attempts to demonstrate causation are performed under conditions which are extremely artificial and aberrant.

Polio outbreaks occurred most often during the summer and were blamed on viruses picked up in swimming pools. But summer was the time when DDT spraying was at its peak and exposure would have been greatest, either directly or through foods from animals eating sprayed crops. Summer foods like ice cream from DDT-sprayed dairy cows would have been a likely source.

http://www.westonaprice.org/environmental-tox...
Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56281 Jul 23, 2013
yawn, still no proof, Joel. Thought not.

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#56282 Jul 23, 2013
Eric wrote:
Please prove this statement as it relates to polio vaccine:
White Gentile scientists are the real geniuses while the Jewish scientists for the most part are plagiarists, thieves and jokers.
You have named no one who developed the polio vaccine prior to Salk and Sabin.
Did Salk and Sabine invent vaccines in the first place?

All they did was to expand the work of others on vaccination/immunization and apply it to one disease called polio.

So, is vaccination per se as a means of immunization their unique idea?

No, ancient ayurveda and in modern times Pasteur are the originators of the method of vaccination.

Polio vaccine is a failure in many ways as shown above.

There are dozens of vaccines developed for deadly diseases but vaccination has its limitations and drawbacks as posted in many posts above.
Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56283 Jul 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Salk and Sabine invent vaccines in the first place?
All they did was to expand the work of others on vaccination/immunization and apply it to one disease called polio.
So, is vaccination per se as a means of immunization their unique idea?
No, ancient ayurveda and in modern times Pasteur are the originators of the method of vaccination.
Polio vaccine is a failure in many ways as shown above.
There are dozens of vaccines developed for deadly diseases but vaccination has its limitations and drawbacks as posted in many posts above.
Salk and Sabin invented the polio vaccine. If it were that simple, why didn't one of your fake yogis do it first?

You have offered no proof that Salk and Sabin sole the polio vaccine from anyone.

Now, why don't you devote your upcoming education and research to cleaning up the cesspool around you, and stop denigrating the accomplishments of others.
Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56284 Jul 23, 2013
sorry stole

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#56285 Jul 23, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>

You have offered no proof that Salk and Sabin stole the polio vaccine from anyone.
Inbred Idiot,

You failed to get the meaning of my post.

I repeat:

Were Salk and Sabine the inventors of vaccine theory/practice? No.

So, what did they do?

They simply borrowed the idea and practice of vaccination from the inventors of immunization and from those working in the said field and found a way to control polio.

They did not invent vaccination theory or practice.

Anyway, their polio vaccine is a failure in many ways and the real causes of polio in large measure is not the virus itself but lie elsewhere.

In general, where the science of immunization/vaccination goes, the real credit of coming up with the idea and practice of vaccines for a host of deadly diseases should go to the brilliant doctors of anceint ayurveda and in modern times to Louis Pasteur.

Dozens of scientists have developed dozens of vaccines for many deadly diseases and there's a growing body of evidence to show that vaccines harm more than they help.
Eric

Wheaton, IL

#56286 Jul 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Inbred Idiot,
You failed to get the meaning of my post.
I repeat:
Were Salk and Sabine the inventors of vaccine theory/practice? No.
So, what did they do?
They simply borrowed the idea and practice of vaccination from the inventors of immunization and from those working in the said field and found a way to control polio.
They did not invent vaccination theory or practice.
Anyway, their polio vaccine is a failure in many ways and the real causes of polio in large measure is not the virus itself but lie elsewhere.
In general, where the science of immunization/vaccination goes, the real credit of coming up with the idea and practice of vaccines for a host of deadly diseases should go to the brilliant doctors of anceint ayurveda and in modern times to Louis Pasteur.
Dozens of scientists have developed dozens of vaccines for many deadly diseases and there's a growing body of evidence to show that vaccines harm more than they help.
And, none of them stole the vaccine from anyone either. What were Salk and Sabin supposed to do? Let science stagnate at the end of the 19th Century and let people die?

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#56287 Jul 23, 2013
Nations that require more vaccine doses tend to have higher infant mortality rates.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3...

(smiles)

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#56288 Jul 23, 2013
Yawn.

Hugh,

I'm terribly horny.

Psst, I've just measured my beautiful pink tool in cm and want you to convert that into inches using basic math.

Where are you, cruff?

Calling on departed spirits using your Ouija board?

(grins)

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#56289 Jul 23, 2013
Bye, Cruffs.

(smiles)

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