Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

India

#56120 Jul 21, 2013
Who says lying and deceiving kafirs are not permitted in Islam? Muslims are permitted to lie and deceive the kafirs if they sense their interests will be protected/promoted, if Islam is to be promoted through stealth or when living in a dar-ul-harb. These dictates fall under the doctrine of taqiya. Muhammad himself was a liar, a deceiver and one who broke pacts/treaties when he sensed an easy victriy through stealth or via force. The peace proferred by Islam is to be shared only among Muslims. The peace of Islam is sectarian and not universal. True peace is shared with one and all regardless of religion, nationality, race and socio-economic status. The peace offered by the so-called "prince of peace", Jesus, was also sectarian. The true universal peace transcending all barriers and bypassing every form of pettiness was manifested only by the Buddha and by Mahavir.
Eric

Downers Grove, IL

#56124 Jul 21, 2013
That Aussie kid 123456789 wrote:
Well can't they just share with the Palestinians
Please remember that sharing the land was the original plan. The Arabs got 2/3 and the Israelis got 1/3 of the original mandate. IT WAS THE ARABS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE. They started a war. Lost the war. Their leaders refused to negotiate peace so that their refugees could return to their land.

So NOW you fault the Israelis for not sharing? Think what the Arab population could have accomplished if they would have only negotiated peace, or, even better, not started the war to begin with.

And, please remember that there are Arab citizens of Israel. They even serve in the Knesset.

Since: Aug 11

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#56125 Jul 21, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Ans.
1. If you think these discussions are like a “wresting match”, then I could have declared you a “winner” even before we started it.
2. To we people Europe and USA are part of the same Western culture, tomorrow you may say, that is the rule of This State and I do not live in that state.
3. Every one has “reason” to justify their laws, but you people have “difficulty” in understanding about Islamic laws and teachings and that is your basic problem’
4. You are right, Islam is like a Global Virus, but it is too late now, it has already “affected” your bodies, it is only a matter of time, when it consumes you. You are fighting a loosing battle, my dear!!
1. Thank you for admitting that you were talking out of your a$$ when you made those hyperbolic statements without supporting citations. It's a step in the right direction of correcting your mistakes.

2. By using the phrase "we people" and " you people" you inherently set up an us versus them mentality that can never lead to anywhere other than strife. Children behave that way. As an adult, you should know better, but it appears you don't.

3. Of course there are reasons to justify laws. Otherwise, why create them. The issue is not with non-Muslims not understanding Islamic laws and teachings. The problem is with Muslims who use Islamic laws and teachings to justify strapping bombs on their bodies and blowing up innocent civilians. Hence, European laws are passed to make it harder for them to do so. Get it?

4. I'm glad you agree with the notion that Islam is like an intrusive and unwanted virus. Like all viruses, we have one of three choices. Let it consume and ultimately destroy civil society; contain it and make it benign like other religions; or eliminate it. I'm perfectly content with the second option.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56127 Jul 21, 2013
That Aussie kid 123456789 wrote:
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Because there mixing with whites duh
and you think the middle east is any less complex?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#56128 Jul 21, 2013
That Aussie kid 123456789 wrote:
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I never blamed the Israelis but I said can't they share
Not only do they share, they even offer to return land. We all saw how that turned out with Gaza. Especially with the greenhouses that were donated.
Eric

Downers Grove, IL

#56129 Jul 21, 2013
That Aussie kid 123456789 wrote:
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I never blamed the Israelis but I said can't they share
So, why didn't you ask why the Palestinians can't share since they are the ones who rejected the original sharing proposal? The Arabs had 2/3 of the mandate and that wasn't enough.
JOEL

India

#56131 Jul 21, 2013
COR IS DELUDED AND HAS LOW LOGIC:

1) COR is deluded when he thinks that European prohibition placed on the burqa is to deter Muslim female suicide bombers (who may conceal a waist bomb under the voluminous outfit). LOL.

2) Burqa per se has not been banned. Only the face veil has been banned in say a nation like France.

3) So, a Muslim woman can don her burqa sans the face veil.

4) Unveiled faces serve 2 purposes:

A) Identification purposes and

B) To prohibit the explicit display of religious symbols in public in keeping with secular laws.

5) France has banned face veils, crosses, swastikas, kirpans and other overt religious symbols - these religious symbols or articles of faith cannot be worn in public places.

COR's tiny brain is in his azz.

Pseudo-intellectual.

(smiles)
JOEL

India

#56133 Jul 21, 2013
Frijoles, the sham ph.d. holder in "science", brainless Zionist and Israel's ass licker is busy offering specious arguments and superficial examples of Israel's so-called largesses towards the Arabs while he refuses to comment on the larger picture, the reason behind the formation of Israel , the manner it was established and the naked bigotry displayed by the Israelis ever. Land and more land is being grabbed and massacare on massacre has been perpetuated. All his claims can be shown false. Arabs are second class citizens in Israel and many retrictions are placed on them and to hush these negatives tokenism is indulged in. Israel is a Jewish totalitarian state with a sham democracy and a poor record of seculairsm. LOL.
JOEL

India

#56135 Jul 21, 2013
Israel is gifted with advanced technolgy by its rich and powerful Western allies and often Israel steals hi tech secrets from the US and Europe. Israel's national IQ is somewhere in the 80s near retard level and Israeli students perform poorly at the International Math/Physics/Chem Olympiads. ROFL.
JOEL

India

#56136 Jul 21, 2013
Israel excels in homosexual permissiveness, racism, terrorizing the weak, stealing advanced tech, and its landsacpe is replete with satanic free masonic symbols....LOL.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#56137 Jul 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Please remember that sharing the land was the original plan. The Arabs got 2/3 and the Israelis got 1/3 of the original mandate. IT WAS THE ARABS THAT DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE. They started a war. Lost the war. Their leaders refused to negotiate peace so that their refugees could return to their land.
So NOW you fault the Israelis for not sharing? Think what the Arab population could have accomplished if they would have only negotiated peace, or, even better, not started the war to begin with.
And, please remember that there are Arab citizens of Israel. They even serve in the Knesset.
First off, Palestinians never wanted foreigners to create a nation in their territory.

Second off, Palestinians and Jews never sat and decided how to divide the territory.

Third off, the way the territory was divided was seen by Palestinians as a problem from an economic and relational viewpoint.
JOEL

India

#56138 Jul 21, 2013
typo - landscape
Voluntarist

United States

#56139 Jul 21, 2013
Eric wrote:
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Confrontation? How about assault? At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.
You are grasping at straws.
Voluntarist

United States

#56140 Jul 21, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Israel is gifted with advanced technolgy by its rich and powerful Western allies and often Israel steals hi tech secrets from the US and Europe. Israel's national IQ is somewhere in the 80s near retard level and Israeli students perform poorly at the International Math/Physics/Chem Olympiads. ROFL.
Its funny how Israel gets away with spying on the U.S..
And these jews here have nothing to say about it.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#56141 Jul 21, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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First off, Palestinians never wanted foreigners to create a nation in their territory.
Second off, Palestinians and Jews never sat and decided how to divide the territory.
Third off, the way the territory was divided was seen by Palestinians as a problem from an economic and relational viewpoint.
From the perspective of many mizrachi Jews, some of the Palestinians are considered foreigners and newcomers.
JOEL

India

#56142 Jul 21, 2013
That Aussie kid 123456789 wrote:
Well the isreails are frendly
Mostly, no!

They are racist and xenophobic.

You should see their disgusting behavior in Israel and when they are in a group when travelling abroad.

I have visited Israel with family in the past and have blood ties there but am truly apalled with this bastardized (genetically abnormal) people of low and immoral character.

Stick to Australia.

Aussies too are white racists.

Anyway.
Haji Muhammad Abdullah

Jakarta, Indonesia

#56143 Jul 21, 2013
The Stern gang, the Irgum gang and the Haganah gang are the most notorius jewish extrimist before 1948

Sternt Gang and Haganah Gang who keep killing and terrorizing the Muslim Arab and the Christian Arab in Palestine before 1948 while the Jewish extrimists group also getting rid of the Bristish in 1940 up 1948.

The Christian Palestine and the Muslim Palestine had been forced to abandoned their home land by the Stren Gang and Haganah Group in order to provide houses for the Jewish people from Eroupe.

Most Christian Palestine had moved to USA, becasue the Jewish people keep attacking the Arab Palestine, many Churches in Palestine have converted to Synagogue

Judaica is the best religion, The Torah is one of the best scripture in this world beside AlQuran.

The Torah prohibit the Jewish people to kill another human being, but the Jewish extrimist and the Jewish militant have been killing the Christian Arab and the Muslim Arab in Palestine in order to make houses and apartment for Jewish people in the greater Israel
JOEL

India

#56144 Jul 21, 2013
Jews are not the original inhabitants of the land that forms present day Israel. Even Abraham, that lying, human sacrificing satanist who indulged in incest and prostituted his wife, was not a Middle Easterner. The Hebrews originated near Afghanistan or somewhere there.
JOEL

India

#56146 Jul 21, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Its funny how Israel gets away with spying on the U.S..
And these jews here have nothing to say about it.


Yes, they will hide and lie till the law of karma deals with them severely.

These rascals have the blood of satanists, prostitutes, pimps, mass murderers and deceivers and so they will cover up all the evils of Israel/Jewish history.

Decent Jews have quit the demonic cult (Judaism) and are free to be atheists or have taken to Buddhism, Zen or Sri Aurobindo's integral yoga in a b ig way.
JOEL

India

#56147 Jul 21, 2013
Bye, boyz.

(wink wink wink)

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