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And the conspiracy continues
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Jul 20, 2013
 
Oklahoma City Bomb
Report
This report
on the
bombing of
the Murrah
Federal
Building in
Oklahoma
City was
prepared by
Brigadier
General
Benton K.
Partin,
USAF (Ret.)
and dated
July 30,
1995.
The report was submitted to the U.S.
Congress and is a matter of the
Congressional Record.
Intro to the Oklahoma City Bombing Report
PART ONE: Bomb Damage Analysis
PART TWO: Analysis of Graphic Evidence
PART THREE: Analysis of Photographic
Evidence
PART FOUR: Conclusion and Appendix
Letter from Heidelberg to Judge David L.
Russel
Response to Heidelberg from Judge David L.
Russel
Letter from Gen Partin to U.S. Sen. Trent
Lott
Resume of Brig. Gen. Benton R. Partin USAF
(Ret.)
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Jul 20, 2013
 
This Hollywoodesque version dovetailed nicely with the story that the evil Brothers Tsarnaev were
in a running gun battle with the cops, flinging home-made pressure cooker bombs at their brave
pursuers as the pair attempted to escape the long arm of the law.
Then we were told Dzhokar was being treated by Israeli doctors who “have abundant past
experience treating victims of terror… because they’re from Israel.”
“Tsarnaev is in stable condition but that because of wounds to his throat, he may never be able to
speak again,” The Blaze reported, feeding the fantasy.
In May, the story changed. It was said
Tsarnaev didn’t have a bullet wound in his
throat, but was cut.“I did see a throat
injury. To me it looked more like a knife
wound,” said Officer Jeff Campbell of the
Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority
Transit Police SWAT Unit.“It wasn’t a
puncture hole. It was a slice where it was
spread open, possibly a piece of shrapnel
from one of the explosives that they were
using the night before. It didn’t look like a
bullet wound to me. It looked like a cut of
some kind.” Campbell was supposedly part of
the team that apprehended Tsarnaev, so if
anybody knew about his wounds, it would be
Campbell and his fellow SWAT officers.
CNN later edited out the comment about the
throat wound made by Campbell.
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Jul 20, 2013
 
Now we have a photo of Tsarnaev allegedly
surrendering. It was taken by a
Massachusetts State Police photographer. CBS
Boston reported on Thursday the
photographer, Sgt. Sean Murphy , gave the
photos to the Boston Magazine because he
was upset by the Rolling Stone’s recent
“glamorized” cover photo of the suspected
terrorist. Murphy is under investigation for
releasing photos to the magazine.
Note the absence of a throat wound in the photo.
The photo underscores the fact the government lied about Tsarnaev’s throat wound, as the photo
clearly shows. Is there anything else the government is lying about? Is it possible the entire event is
a government contrived fiction?
Now it’s time for somebody to release the video frame capture of the Brothers Tsarnaev dropping
their bomb-laden backpacks, photos we are assured exist but were never released. Is it possible this
is a lie as well?
Finally, it looks like the government no longer even cares about the quality of its deception. Earlier
this week, a man we are told was Dzhokar appeared in court to plead not guilty to terrorism
charges. However, according to a former wrestling teammate interviewed by the Boston Globe, the
man in court “didn’t look like” Tsarnaev. Moreover, the man brought into court had a thick accent
and Tsarnaev does not, as a cell phone video of him interacting with a child reveals (see video
below).
http://www.infowars.com/dzhokar-tsarnaevs-thr...
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The Hidden (And Not So Hidden) Messages in Stanley Kubrick’s
“Eyes Wide Shut”(pt. I)
July 8, 2013 | Category: Featured, Movies and TV | 383 comments
“Eyes Wide Shut” was promoted as a steamy, suspenseful movie
starring the “It” couple of the day: Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman.
While the actors were prominently featured in the movie, it is
everything around them that told the true story of “Eyes Wide
Shut”. Stanley Kubrick’s attention to detail and symbolism gave
the movie an entire other dimension – one that cannot be seen by
those who have their eyes wide shut. This multiple-part series will
look at the hidden symbolism of Kubrick’s final film.
I remember when I first watched Eyes Wide Shut , back in 1999.
Boy, did I hate it. I hated how slow everything was, I hated how
Nicole Kidman tried to sound drunk or high and I hated seeing
Tom Cruise walk around New York looking concerned. I guess I
reacted the same way critics did at the time the movie came out
and thought:“This movie is boring and there is nothing hot about
it.” More than a decade later, equipped with a little more
knowledge and patience, I re-watched the movie … and it blew my
mind. In fact, like most Stanley Kubrick films, an entire book could
be written about the movie and the concepts it addresses. Eyes
Wide Shut is indeed not simply about a relationship, it is about all
of the outside forces and influences that define that relationship. It
is about the eternal back-and-forth between the male and female
principles in a confused and decadent modern world. Also, more
importantly, it is about the group that rules this modern world – a
secret elite that channels this struggle between the male and
female principles in a specific and esoteric matter. The movie
however does not spell out anything. Like all great art, messages
are communicated through subtle symbols and mysterious riddles.
Stanley Kubrick unexpectedly died only five days after submitting
the final cut of the movie to Warner Bros, making Eyes Wide Shu t
his swan song. Considering the fact that Eyes Wide Shut is about
an occult secret society that eliminates those who cross its path,
some theories arose about Kubrick’s death and its suspicious
nature. Did he reveal to the public too much, too soon? Maybe.
Let’s look at the main themes of Kubrick’s last creation.
The Modern Couple
The stars of Eyes Wide Shut were the “It” couple of 1999: Tom
Cruise and Nicole Kidman. Those who were expecting the movie to
be a sort of voyeuristic experience showing hot scenes of the
couple were probably very disappointed. The audience rather got a
cold, egoistic and profoundly unsatisfied couple, one that seems to
be tied together not by pure love, but by other factors, like
convenience and appearances. While the couple is very “modern”
and “upper-class”, the forces that keep it together are the result of
basic, primal and almost animalistic behavior. If we look at the
instinctive behavior of humans and animals, males primarily look
for females that have good child-bearing qualities while females
look for a strong provider. Remnants of this behavior still exist
today as males tend to display wealth and power to attract
females while females showcase their beauty to attract males. In
Eyes Wide Shut , the couple perfectly follows that instinctive script
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Tom Cruise’s character is called Dr. Bill … as in dollar bill. Several
times during the movie, Dr. Bill either waves his money or his
“doctor badge” at people to get them to do what he wants. Bill is
part of the upper class and his dealings with people of the lower
class are often resolved with money.
In order to get this taxi driver to wait for him in
front of the elite mansion, Dr. Bill tears up a
hundred dollar bill and promises him to give him
the other half when he comes back. Dr. Bill’s motto
is probably “Everybody has a price”. Does his own
wife have a price?
Played by Nicole Kidman, Alice lost her job in the art world and is
now fully supported by her husband’s salary. While she lives very
comfortably, Alice appears to be extremely bored with her life as a
stay at home mother. The name Alice is most likely a reference to
the main character of Alice in Wonderland – a fairy tale about a
privileged girl who is bored with her life and who goes “through
the looking glass” to end up in Wonderland. In Eyes Wide Shut,
Alice is often shown staring at the looking glass – grooming
herself or … maybe looking for something more to life.
Alice is often shown in front of the mirror and
making herself pretty. At the beginning of the
movie, almost everyone who talk to her mention her
appearance. Her daughter Helena (maybe named
after Helena of Troy, the most beautiful woman in
the world) follows in her footsteps.
Promotional images for the movie feature Alice
kissing Bill but looking at herself in the mirror,
almost as if she was seeing an alternate reality.
While the couple shows signs of fatigue, Bill and Alice put on their
“happy masks” when it is time to attend social events. Like the
elite people they socialize with, there is a big difference between
the facade they put on and reality.
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Jul 20, 2013
 
Brushing With the Elite
Bill and Alice go to a classy party given by Victor Ziegler, one of
Bill’s wealthy patients. Judging from Victor’s house, he is not
simply rich, he is part of the ultra-elite. While his party is very
elegant and is attended by highly cultured people, it doesn’t take
long for the viewers to realize that this facade hides a disgusting
dark side. Also, small details inserted by Kubrick hint to a link
between the party and the occult ritual that occurs later in the
movie.
When entering the party, the first thing we see is
this peculiar Christmas decoration. This eight-
pointed star is found throughout the house.
The star at Zeigler’s house is nearly identical to the
ancient symbol of the star of Ishtar.
Knowing Kubrick’s attention to detail, the inclusion of the star of
Ishtar in this party is not an accident. Ishtar is the Babylonian
goddess of fertility, love, war and, mostly, sexuality. Her cult
involved sacred prostitution and ritual acts – two elements we
clearly see later in the movie.
“Babylonians gave Ishtar offerings of food and drink on
Saturday. They then joined in ritual acts of lovemaking,
which in turn invoked Ishtar’s favor on the region and its
people to promote continued health and fruitfulness.”
- Goddess Ishtar, Anita Revel
Ishtar herself was considered to be the “courtesan of the gods” and
had many lovers. While inspired in bed, she was also cruel to the
men that got attached to her. These concepts will constantly
reappear in the movie, especially with Alice.
During the party, Bill and Alice go their separate ways and are
both faced with temptation. Alice meets a man named Sandor
Szavost who asks her about Ovid’s Art of Love. This series of
books, written during the times of Ancient Rome, was essentially a
“How to Cheat on Your Partner” guide, and was popular with the
elite of the time. The first book opens with an invocation to Venus
– the planet esoterically associated with lust. Interestingly enough,
Ishtar (and her equivalents in other Semetic cultures) was
considered to be the personification of Venus.
Sandor drinks from Alice’s glass. This trick is taken
right out of Ovid’s The Art of Love. It sends Alice a
message that is not very subliminal:“I want to
exchange fluids with you”.
Sandor’s name might be a reference to the founder of the Church of
Satan: Anton Szandor Lavey. Is this Kubrick’s way of saying that
this man, who urges Alice to cheat on her husband, is a part of the
occult elite and its decadent ways? The Hungarian man is
apparently skilled in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) as he
nearly hypnotizes Alice with well calculated phrases about the
futility of married life and the necessity of pursuing pleasure.
Meanwhile, Bill is discussing with two flirtatious models who tell
him that they want to take him to “where the rainbow ends”. While
the meaning of this enigmatic phrase is never explicitly explained
in the movie, symbols talk for themselves.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-hi...
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Jul 20, 2013
 
COR wrote:
1. Still no citation from you. I'll take that as admission of defeat from you on that point.

2. What Europe does is their business, not mine. Europe also has a VAT tax. You don't see me complaining about that either, do you?

3. I gave you the reason why Europe has those laws. You seem to have conveniently side stepped discussion around that. Not surprising.

4. Yes, Islam is a global phenomenon. Unfortunately, viruses have a way of spreading globally.
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1. If you think these discussions are like a “wresting match”, then I could have declared you a “winner” even before we started it.

2. To we people Europe and USA are part of the same Western culture, tomorrow you may say, that is the rule of This State and I do not live in that state.

3. Every one has “reason” to justify their laws, but you people have “difficulty” in understanding about Islamic laws and teachings and that is your basic problem’

4. You are right, Islam is like a Global Virus, but it is too late now, it has already “affected” your bodies, it is only a matter of time, when it consumes you. You are fighting a loosing battle, my dear!!
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Frijoles wrote:
1.

Why are you talking about Europe when neither you nor I live there? Might as well be talking about New Zealand - that is equally relevant

Now you are comparing clothing bans with homosexuality?

I cant recollect a time on this forum where you ever got the culture and politics of the US right.

2.

What you promote as "Islam" has virtually no commonality with what is practiced in the U.S. Thank Allah.
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1. Please see my answer to COR, US and Europe are part of the “western culture” that is competing with Islam.

2. You can Thank Allah that you are away from Islamic teachings, but time is near when you will Thank Allah that now you are following His Guidance!!

It is a matter of time, my dear, only a matter of time.
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Jul 21, 2013
 
Voluntarist wrote:
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Confrontation and aggression are two different things.
Confrontation? How about assault? At Common Law, an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact.
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2. To we people Europe and USA are part of the same Western culture, tomorrow you may say, that is the rule of This State and I do not live in that state.
Sounds very "Hughesque"! But, when the converse is applied (i.e., that all Muslims are terrorists because of the action of a few), the Muslims wince.

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1. Please see my answer to COR, US and Europe are part of the “western culture” that is competing with Islam.
We have stated and explained REPEATEDLY that the European political and legal culture is VASTLY different than our American culture, but yet you keep ignoring this and lumping us in.

And you accuse US of stereotyping and predjudice?

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Sounds very "Hughesque"! But, when the converse is applied (i.e., that all Muslims are terrorists because of the action of a few), the Muslims wince.
lol..I just made the same point

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MUQ wrote:
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4. You are right, Islam is like a Global Virus, but it is too late now, it has already “affected” your bodies, it is only a matter of time, when it consumes you. You are fighting a loosing battle, my dear!!
Thats really funny. Most muslims I know here in the US would read that post and tell me you are a loon who promotes a religion that is un Islamic.

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Voluntarist wrote:
And the conspiracy continues
More a question of someone who needs meds than anything else.

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MUQ wrote:
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1. If you think these discussions are like a “wresting match”, then I could have declared you a “winner” even before we started it.
The point is that you made an inaccurate statement and both COR and myself asked you to either back it up with citations, or admit you posted a falsehood.

This is what polite people do here on Topix.(In contrast, impolite people might just respond with a vulgarity)

Now, I am reasonably sure your religion forbids the willful propagation of falsehoods. All civilized religions do.

The polite response at this time might be an acknowledgement that your original post was a mistake, and then to move on.
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We have stated and explained REPEATEDLY that the European political and legal culture is VASTLY different than our American culture, but yet you keep ignoring this and lumping us in.
And you accuse US of stereotyping and predjudice?
When you regularly comment on ME affairs, what is wrong if we comment on European matters? If you do not like it, ignore it.

Don't you lump ALL Muslim nations in your comments?

Why we are having this useless chit chat?

I am not the guy for such "endless and looped back" type of discussions.

For me Europe and USA are as Tweedledee and Tweedledum, they have same values and same materialistic philosophy.

The difference is only minor, but at core they are same white race people.

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MUQ wrote:
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When you regularly comment on ME affairs, what is wrong if we comment on European matters? If you do not like it, ignore it.
Don't you lump ALL Muslim nations in your comments?
Why we are having this useless chit chat?
I am not the guy for such "endless and looped back" type of discussions.
For me Europe and USA are as Tweedledee and Tweedledum, they have same values and same materialistic philosophy.
The difference is only minor, but at core they are same white race people.
You made a statement about Burkas being illegal- Us Americans replied otherwise.

Dont deflect. We are not asking for endless loops. In fact, I am keeping you on topic.

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MUQ wrote:
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When you regularly comment on ME affairs, what is wrong if we comment on European matters? If you do not like it, ignore it.
Don't you lump ALL Muslim nations in your comments?
Why we are having this useless chit chat?
Is asking you to back up your hyperbole endless chit chat?

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MUQ wrote:
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For me Europe and USA are as Tweedledee and Tweedledum, they have same values and same materialistic philosophy.
The difference is only minor, but at core they are same white race people.
If we are the same as Europe kindly explain to me why

1) There are no muslims rioting in our country, but in Europe

2) Why Burkas and other veils are not only legal but socially acceptable in our country and not Europe

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