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JOEL

India

#55262 Jun 22, 2013
SUNTA: Why do you say there's an afterlife?

BUNTA: Because my religious book says so.

(smiles)
JOEL

India

#55263 Jun 22, 2013
I was posting stuff on mind-matter and energy-matter and causation on the allah thread. taking time out to rest. Have to study at least 12 hours on sunday - today. It's almost 3 am here.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#55264 Jun 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
I was posting stuff on mind-matter and energy-matter and causation on the allah thread. taking time out to rest. Have to study at least 12 hours on sunday - today. It's almost 3 am here.
rabbee: well we are not really as interested, in your religious studies as you are. you could spend 24/7, and we would not mind. contrary to your, the popular belief. we are more than capable of getting along, religiously without you.

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#55265 Jun 22, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Slaves running from their masters was ince considered a mental illness, isnt it all just a farce?
I am sorry you will have to be more specific as to what "all" is.(I am not naturally tuned in to the same frequencies as you.)

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#55266 Jun 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
SUNTA: Why do you say there's an afterlife?
BUNTA: Because my religious book says so.
(smiles)
Another poke at Hughbe, I see.

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#55267 Jun 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
3) RATIONALIST: Why do you take a day off each week to pray to your God?
3) BELIEVER: My religious book says so.
Another poke at the Christians, I see.

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#55268 Jun 22, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
Shavua Tov
Beliver: I don't give a fetid dingo's kidney if you do or do not believe in G-d. Why is it so important to YOU that I don't believe?
Rationalist: Because, I'm so insecure in my opinion that I don't feel comfortable unless everyone around me believes the same. Group-Think makes me feel less vulnerable in my opinions.
Happy Full Moon!

I am not convinced that this is the most burning of issues. Most of the vocal atheists I know (here in the U.S.) appear to responding to the provocations of the Christian right.

I just read an article discussing how North Carolina state legislature last year outlawed the use of scientific models by the State to measure sea level change. With denial like that, do you actually blame atheists or other people from pushing back?

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#55269 Jun 22, 2013
NC Considers Making Sea Level Rise Illegal

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#55270 Jun 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Happy Full Moon!
I am not convinced that this is the most burning of issues. Most of the vocal atheists I know (here in the U.S.) appear to responding to the provocations of the Christian right.
I just read an article discussing how North Carolina state legislature last year outlawed the use of scientific models by the State to measure sea level change. With denial like that, do you actually blame atheists or other people from pushing back?
rabbee: did not know it requires, scientific modeling to use a yard stick or notches? when you can see that rock, it means is low tide. if it were to change, you would not see it any more. don't need scientific modeling, to replace a more valuable and reliable rock like that. and i have more than one rock, for an emergency back up system.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#55271 Jun 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
NC Considers Making Sea Level Rise Illegal
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...
rabbee: continue to tick off G-D, and i can assure you that the present sea level rising is the least of your lack of security worries.

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#55272 Jun 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: continue to tick off G-D, and i can assure you that the present sea level rising is the least of your lack of security worries.
But I like ticks.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#55273 Jun 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
SUNTA: How do you know if Adam and Eve existed?
BUNTA: Because my religious book says so.
LOL.
We know Adam and Eve are real and the incident in the garden of Eden really happened because of its re enactment 29 1/2 years ago. This was a tremendous sign and wonder and God proved she is the first and by her presence today, is also the last.

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#55274 Jun 22, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>I know Jews are not usually guilty of this, but in my day to day experiences, it is usually the believer(typically the prostylitizing type) that exhibits the issues that you are projecting onto the strawman rationalist. I suspect that, like you, most atheists (barring the few activist types) just want to be left alone and not preached to. Wouldn't you agree?
As a Jew, I've encountered enough missionaries in my life (religious and atheist) to choke a horse. In fact, one incident with a missionary did lead to the death of a small pony but that's another story.

What I find ironic here is that his missionary zeal is focused on Jews. The only of the world's major faiths that doesn't care in what he believes.

In fact, that the missionary and I believe differently is a constant source of joy and comfort to me.

If we did agree it would cause me to reexamine my beliefs.

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#55275 Jun 22, 2013
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>We know Adam and Eve are real and the incident in the garden of Eden really happened because of its re enactment 29 1/2 years ago. This was a tremendous sign and wonder and God proved she is the first and by her presence today, is also the last.
I only have one question about the 're-enactment'. Was Eve hot.

Or did she look more like Australopithecus?

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#55276 Jun 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
NC Considers Making Sea Level Rise Illegal

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/plugged-i...
Would the law be retroactive? Because Sea Levels have been rising for the last 50,000 years and I would hate to see the courts tied up with all those preciousness prosecutions.
susanblange

Norfolk, VA

#55277 Jun 22, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
I only have one question about the 're-enactment'. Was Eve hot.
Or did she look more like Australopithecus?
She is the "fairest among women" but the photographs (images) Adam took were far from flattering. She was publically humiliated. Do you remember the "50 foot shrunken apple head woman"?

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#55278 Jun 22, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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As a Jew, I've encountered enough missionaries in my life (religious and atheist) to choke a horse. In fact, one incident with a missionary did lead to the death of a small pony but that's another story.
What I find ironic here is that his missionary zeal is focused on Jews. The only of the world's major faiths that doesn't care in what he believes.
In fact, that the missionary and I believe differently is a constant source of joy and comfort to me.
If we did agree it would cause me to reexamine my beliefs.
Ahhhh

I think what was missing from your initial post was awareness of the target. I didnt (and neither did COR probably) realize it was directed at Yoda.

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#55279 Jun 22, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
Would the law be retroactive? Because Sea Levels have been rising for the last 50,000 years and I would hate to see the courts tied up with all those preciousness prosecutions.
The devil is in the details. The fight is that the legislature only wanted modeling of sea level rise using a linear model, while the current state of the science uses exponential models. So they decided to legislate which model was permissible for state mapping. Obviously a linear model leads to less sea level rise, which not only satisfies the anti-science lobby, but the real estate lobby who wants to continue to build on the waterfront.

A more entertaining response are those that are pinning their hopes on land masses bouncing back up to compensate. Isostatic rebound.

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#55280 Jun 22, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
<quoted text>
As a Jew, I've encountered enough missionaries in my life (religious and atheist) to choke a horse. In fact, one incident with a missionary did lead to the death of a small pony but that's another story.
What I find ironic here is that his missionary zeal is focused on Jews. The only of the world's major faiths that doesn't care in what he believes.
In fact, that the missionary and I believe differently is a constant source of joy and comfort to me.
If we did agree it would cause me to reexamine my beliefs.
Can you blame a missionary Christian for focussing on Jews? After all, the foundational premise of their original religion is Judaism. They're just trying to upgrade your belief system to version 2.0 and win some extra brownie points with the Big Guy
/sarcasm

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#55281 Jun 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Ahhhh
I think what was missing from your initial post was awareness of the target. I didnt (and neither did COR probably) realize it was directed at Yoda.
Since when is Yoda a rationalist?

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