Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54818 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well yes he could be, unless it could be detrimental to his receiving government pay checks. if you receive any government pay check, you either do exactly as they say, or you do not work for them any more. and may find it curiously difficult, to even get a job anywhere else.
Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

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#54819 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

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#54820 Jun 12, 2013
well at least i am smart enough, to figure out that joel's boloney has a first name. that is not, o-s-c-a-r.

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#54821 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
Nah. It wasnt even a govt contract. It was a subcontract. Like I said, me and a zillion other people.

That said, I do provide compliance services to the private sector as well. Making me guilty of....capitalism. Oh the shock to libertarian ears.
Voluntarist

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#54822 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There are functions that private enterprise just cant perform. Ever learn about the "tragedy of the commons"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_c...
There are other functions as well.
I agree those cows might destroy the pasture, that's real important and significant.
Has nothing to do with private enterprise giving charity.
Voluntarist

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#54823 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Because I work for a living I am not allowed to offer an opinion?
I also received a refund from the IRS last year. Does that mean I cant offer an opinion about the IRS?
Part of living in a democracy means that the government is not some abstract idea. Its us.
You rely partially on government work so your opinion on the hand that feeds you is slightly skewed.

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#54824 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I agree those cows might destroy the pasture, that's real important and significant.
Has nothing to do with private enterprise giving charity.
It is. Private sector lacks the mechanism to deal with issues of communal importance such as environmental protection

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#54825 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You rely partially on government work so your opinion on the hand that feeds you is slightly skewed.
and around and around we go

i already addressed that. Acknowledge that and move on
Voluntarist

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#54826 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: but breach of contract, is covered by civil law.
Former res
tell that to a judge at a child support enforcement hearing.
Voluntarist

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#54828 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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It is. Private sector lacks the mechanism to deal with issues of communal importance such as environmental protection
Example

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54829 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Example
I just posted the citation

and around and around we go

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#54830 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Former res
tell that to a judge at a child support enforcement hearing.
something you undoubtedly have first hand experience with

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#54833 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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In the US mainly we dont have entrance exams. Entrance is based on grades, recommendations, and most importantly, research sponsorship. We do have a generalized standardized test (GRE) but noone I know takes it seriously.

Nor do people go straight to the PhD, usually the departments use the Masters programs as the first gatekeeper, and then a series of oral or written exams based tailored to you by your research committee later AFTER you have finished your PhD coursework.
The American system is mainly drawing on the talent and intelligence of overseas students and scientists.

In disciplines like engineering and math, nearly 75% or more of the PhDs awarded each year by US universities are grabbed by foreign born candidates mainly of Asian origin.

An Indian high schooler with an above average grasp of the subjects can easily outwit most American undergrads and in some cases their grads, too. Those who fail to get into the IITs, IISc, TIFR, BARC and other reputed institutions back here rush to the US universities and many get selected by the IVY Leagues. We find the course work at US universities pretty easy. The cream of Indian students stay back and if interested in grad and doc studies leave Indian shores only after undergrad or master's level programs.

In India, where the entrance standards to undergrad, grad and doctoral courses are much stiffer than in the US, a candidate has to have a master's degree or in certain cases a MPhil degree before sitting for the entrance exams that thoroughly test the basics. Without a sound grasp of the basics, how can a student even dream of pursuing a master's or a doc degree? The entrance exams serve as a weeding out process of the superfluous elements. Of the successful candidates, just a few are selected by each institute after the personal interview where a candidate has to answer and solve on the spot extremely difficult subject-based questions fired at him/her by a panel of eminent professors/scientists. If he/she clears this dreaded stage then he/she gets down to the theory work needed to conduct research at the lab/field level. Funding comes in the form of government/private schols. Institutions like the reputed BARC, IISc, ISI, TIFR and others pay doctoral students a monthly stipend aside from the tuition-fee waiver and research funding - scholarship. Lodging and boarding, if needed on campus, is almost free.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#54834 Jun 12, 2013
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In the US we still have independent branches. Destined to drive each other nuts. On a daily basis.
LOL.

So, all these fiercely independent branches of government in the US supported/support lies and frameups when the US invaded Iraq and acted against several Arab nations?

Where was/is their sense of fair-play and conscience in these most critical matters that test the ethical basis of a nation and its watchdog institutions?

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#54835 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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agreed
Why? Elaborate.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#54836 Jun 12, 2013
The heavens and hells that constitute strata of consciousness-energy are 99% subjective, 1% objective.

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#54838 Jun 13, 2013
Will be putting in at least 8 to 9 hours of solid studying today. Bye. Later.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#54839 Jun 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Why? Elaborate.
you first

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#54840 Jun 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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LOL.
So, all these fiercely independent branches of government in the US supported/support lies and frameups when the US invaded Iraq and acted against several Arab nations?
Where was/is their sense of fair-play and conscience in these most critical matters that test the ethical basis of a nation and its watchdog institutions?
Thats one example in your favor

How about the rest of these examples?
Health Care (pres and court vs current congress)
Syria (congress vs pres)
Appointees (congress vs pres)
Rights of religious workers to sue (Obama admin vs court)
Gitmo (court vs Bush admin)
Global Warming (court vs Bush admin)
..........

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#54841 Jun 13, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Why? Elaborate.
No need to elaborate after you articulated the message concisely.

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