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JOEL

India

#54801 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

We have a representative democracy, not a majority democracy. Its a little different than that.

Though there are small towns in Northern New England that are based on the majority for local stuff.
Either way, participative democracy ends at the ballot box and once the elected representatives take charge, autocracy prevails and in many cases rash, dangerous , partisan and anti-national decisions are taken and/or executed by the government in power. Constitutional amendments are also undertaken at times to legalize the perverse actions on the part of the policy makers. The judiciary and excecutive are in most ways mere puppets in the hands of the legislature. Anyway.
JOEL

India

#54802 Jun 12, 2013
Will be studying for the next few hours recapitulating fundamental concepts and fine tuning my math skills. Preparing for the various entrance exams for entry to research level (phd) programs. Later. Bye.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54803 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
RM
Yes, but govt also has beneficial side effects (such as the safety net you mentioned earlier) that private sector cant afford
Also, Volunteerist, I believe IS a libertarian that believes in no government. Of course he may not count because of his kookiness.
rabbee: you can pretend to protect, some of the people some of the time. you can pretend to protect all of the people some of the time. but you cannot actually protect, any of the people any of the time.

making murder illegal, to you. does not stop, murder. any more than making terrorism illegal, is going to stop the continual increase in terrorism.

because you all either don't know, or don't care what the problem really is. blaming the symptoms of the actual problem, will not fix the problem. the same kind of thinking that caused the problem, will not fix the problem.

the truth is to inappropriately inconvenient, to your satiated antiG-D delusionally comforted mentality. all the problems of this world, are tied up in not being true to G-D here in TheTorah. and you all do not care, how many of your neighbors are dying because of this.

am i The-Only One in this world here in TheTorah, that really does care what happens to all you and your neighbors??? is giving up, your eternal existence for finite sinful mortality, worth not believing in G-D here in TheTorah? if so my advice and counsel commanded by G-D to you, is of no help at all to any you.

i have surrendered, my personal life, my personal judgments, personal choices, my personal opinions, of this world. in order to accept G-D'S, life and judgments for me here in TheTorah agains'es. everything i ever allegedly personally owned or personally cared about is all gone. i had to start a new life, all over again. i no longer have any friends, because i truly choose G-D here in TheTorah truly.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54805 Jun 12, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes there is a place in the province of Rome called Colonna.
The wine is called Montecompatri Colonna and is a white wine.
rabbee: thanks for helping me, remember the name of that wine. been so long ago, that i had a winery. but i used to keep, wines from all over the world. but that was in the days gone by, before the use of sulfites has ruined practically all of them. which kind of limits, my wine selection today. if i wanted to taste sulfites, i could buy food grade sulfites.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54806 Jun 12, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
The religion practised by Moses is not followed anymore. Today the so called Jews follow a religion that point out its roots on Torah but interprete that text in a way that has nothing to do with Moses' book.
If the religion of Moses is called Judaism, that of the Jews of today should be called in another manner.
rabbee: well for sure, G-D never called it judaism. was not even known, as judaism then or even 2000 years ago. all G-D ever called it, is TheTorah to Moshe or me also Personally. but i am sure that jews* today, are somewhere beyond even the not here in TheTorah golden calf. and you are right about them pointing to TheTorah, as if we are not still here in IT from G-D. and G-D even told them, how this story always ends, because of all the nobodies here in it today. resulting in adam, being all alone with about seven billion nobodies here in IT again.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#54807 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
That bank robber got lifted out of poverty by taking what wasn't his, does that make it ok?
Probably not to the people he took it from.

I look forward to receiving my gov't check one day.

Lining up at the teat. My turn.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#54808 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
It can be, you have to look at it on a case by case basis.
One thing is true, those businesses are creations of government, that is given government protection.
It's the industrial-legislative complex.

All in bed together.

Ike warned us about it vis--vis military spending, but it's
much more than that.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54809 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Will be studying for the next few hours recapitulating fundamental concepts and fine tuning my math skills. Preparing for the various entrance exams for entry to research level (phd) programs. Later. Bye.
Interesting. In the US mainly we dont have entrance exams. Entrance is based on grades, recommendations, and most importantly, research sponsorship. We do have a generalized standardized test (GRE) but noone I know takes it seriously.

Nor do people go straight to the PhD, usually the departments use the Masters programs as the first gatekeeper, and then a series of oral or written exams based tailored to you by your research committee later AFTER you have finished your PhD coursework.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54810 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Either way, participative democracy ends at the ballot box and once the elected representatives take charge, autocracy prevails and in many cases rash, dangerous , partisan and anti-national decisions are taken and/or executed by the government in power. Constitutional amendments are also undertaken at times to legalize the perverse actions on the part of the policy makers. The judiciary and excecutive are in most ways mere puppets in the hands of the legislature. Anyway.
Your government sounds like a nightmare.

In the US we still have independent branches. Destined to drive each other nuts. On a daily basis.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54811 Jun 12, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
This takes me back to the old days...
Phreaking
Phreaking is a slang term coined to describe the activity of a culture of people who study, experiment with, or explore telecommunication systems, such as equipment and systems connected to public telephone networks. As telephone networks have become computerized, phreaking has become closely linked with computer hacking.[1] This is sometimes called the H/P culture (with H standing for hacking and P standing for phreaking).
The term phreak is a portmanteau of the words phone and freak, and may also refer to the use of various audio frequencies to manipulate a phone system. Phreak, phreaker, or phone phreak are names used for and by individuals who participate in phreaking. Because identities were usually masked, an exact percentage of prevalence cannot be calculated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phreaking
rabbee: well i don't think you can call, being a security installation and computer and electronic counter intelligence surveillance intrusion specialist as phreaking. but we must be aware of, techniques available for malicious or eavesdropping intrusions. most government secure communications, are 56 bit encrypted manchester encoded synchronous data with a rotating code index.

but other voice and data systems, have almost no effect on security or intrusion. and most everything today, incorporates a special code and password. that can allow alleged as legal agencies and telecommunication companies to have access to them. with the proper program, if cricket or any other company knows who you are, then so can anyone else with the right program.

and the most secure government rooms, you can't even enter without proper clearance classification, hand print, optic, metal detection, weight, voice recognition and key card. which can vary to all or few, according to the level of clearance required. and because of compartmentalization, you better be with someone they recognize, if you have never been in there before.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54812 Jun 12, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
It's the industrial-legislative complex.
All in bed together.
Ike warned us about it vis--vis military spending, but it's
much more than that.
Look no farther than the healthcare or the IT industry.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54813 Jun 12, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Breach of contract is not a crime.
rabbee: but breach of contract, is covered by civil law.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54814 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I was actually saying the opposite, it cant be trusted.
The author was claiming that Snowden breached an agreement that he had with the government, ironically he was leaking information that pointed to the government breaching an agreement that it had with the people.
Bad bad boy look at him while we violate you.
rabbee: well you know, big brother has been doing this, since even before orwell's 1984 prediction. and very few people became aware of it, in 1984. and people were so acclimatized to it, they did not even pay any attention. until the fashion police or what ever, arrived at your front door. where even if you changed your fashions or habits, big brother became suspicious.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54815 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Government is both an abstraction and a concrete fact.
agreed
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54816 Jun 12, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually Frijoles relies partially on government contracts so I believe that he can not have a fair and impartial opinion.
rabbee: well yes he could be, unless it could be detrimental to his receiving government pay checks. if you receive any government pay check, you either do exactly as they say, or you do not work for them any more. and may find it curiously difficult, to even get a job anywhere else.

i know people, who tried to report wrong doings within the system. but they are no longer, in the system.

what would you do, if you walked into a room, where security personal were about to shoot someone? knowing this was the result, of their reporting an incident within the system.

would you try to use the same system, to try and report this wrong doing? it's kind of like watching, muslims lop off someones head, for reporting their wrong doings. which is also not my idea, of a retirement option.

it's like the murderer, confessing to a psychiatrist. about all the people he has killed, for knowing to much. and now the psychiatrist, realizes he knows just too much.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54817 Jun 12, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Brain-dead fanatic,
Morals are an innate factor of the human consciousness. Once the mind grade of the human consciousness gets activated the mind intuitively progressively begins discriminating between right and wrong. The greater is the manifestation of the mental consciousness in man, the more conscientious and intellectual he is and if his emotional instincts are refined enough and do not pull the mind down into its petty world of jealousy, rage, possessiveness, hatred and sensualism, then the man innately knows when to step back and when to go forward where action and reaction forces are concerned. Everything depends on how evolved the mind is and how regenerate the emotions are. Mind exceeds emotions in its higher movements though some lower elements of mind penetrate the emotional consciousness where they get mixed up with the waves of emotionalism and get swayed in this manner.
Except the Buddha, the rest of the prophets were men of low morals and savage instincts.
rabbee: the fact that someone, can actually use the space between their ears to think. and it is not what you want to hear, does not constitute brain death. yoga, alleged higher education, or anything else tried by this world, has not changed this world for the better. when it all seems to have, a negative impact on this world. quit pretending like you are the ultimate improvement of only men. there is not that much difference, in what you belive and what adolph hitler believed. with your i'm, the pretend true superior inferior race.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54818 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: well yes he could be, unless it could be detrimental to his receiving government pay checks. if you receive any government pay check, you either do exactly as they say, or you do not work for them any more. and may find it curiously difficult, to even get a job anywhere else.
Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54819 Jun 12, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Another myth from volunteerist. In the past I, like thousands of other people, had the opportunity to subcontract into a tiny portion of the stimulus money. Which I happily did. There was a reason it was called stimulus.
rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#54820 Jun 12, 2013
well at least i am smart enough, to figure out that joel's boloney has a first name. that is not, o-s-c-a-r.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#54821 Jun 12, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: oh that same old, stimulus-nimbo cloud. have you received any more, government contracts since then? or was it just a one time stimulae, rather than stimulus.
Nah. It wasnt even a govt contract. It was a subcontract. Like I said, me and a zillion other people.

That said, I do provide compliance services to the private sector as well. Making me guilty of....capitalism. Oh the shock to libertarian ears.

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