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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53487 May 27, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
Frijoles / Former,
How goes it? I see some things never change.
The homophobic, anti-Semitic Jamaican is still playing silly word games.
The conspiracy theorist is still obsessed with the bogey man.
And the former Yogi is still craving attention.
Happy Memorial Day!
welcome!

Absolutely nothing has changed. Wish I could claim otherwise.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53488 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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Too bad. The worst you can hope for is to become a super power one day.
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If you wish to get "better" at doing something the wrong way, then follow your own advice.
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Faith by definition requires no evidence.
If you have evidence, you do need faith.
Silly 'tard.
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Can we all agree they are made by humans using machines?
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No you don't.
Lies and deception.
Is this your way?
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I know that I know nothing
Socrates
HughBe--- Understood, not everyone strives for improvement. I actually got a British based education. Now they are copying the American system and are lowering the quality.

Former--Too bad. The worst you can hope for is to become a super power one day.

HughBe--- did the US become a super power after the Korean war?

Former---It's about WHAT one is practicing, not the practicing itself.

HughBe--- What is practised will not change the fact that repetition will make one get better and better and eventually perfect.

Former--If you wish to get "better" at doing something the wrong way, then follow your own advice.

HughBe--- My son, be it good or bad, repetition will lead to perfection of skills. Take the case of crooks they practice over and over to get better at what they do. Were you ignorant of this?

Former--If faith is belief without evidence then why do you keep talking about evidence?

HughBe--- My faith has EVIDENCE but what kind of EVIDENCE?

Former--Faith by definition requires no evidence.

HughBe--- My definition has an EVIDENCE element.

Former---If you have evidence, you do need faith.

HughBe--- Correct at the lower level of thinking and reasoning. The evidence that I have gives me FAITH in the unseen.

Former--Silly 'tard.

HughBe--- I am a silly retard to you but to me you are "SPECIAL".

Former---We know who made the car.

HughBe-- WE know but I don't know. I have NEVER met a car maker. Common sense tells me that cars don't drop out of the sky.

Former---Can we all agree they are made by humans using machines?

HughBe--- Ok but the real principle is that things are MADE. Can we agree that OBJECTS don't make themselves?

HughBe---When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the EVIDENCE. The same principle for the car.

Former---Big difference.

HughBe--- WRONG. IDENTICAL is the correct word.

Former--We don't know anything about who or what made all this.

HughBe--- I know about the Maker from what is made.

Former---No you don't. Lies and deception.

HughBe--- Let me use your words to comment. Previously YOU said, "We KNOW who made the car" and now you are accusing me of LIES. Explain to me my source of KNOWLEDGE about the car maker.

I have never READ ABOUT ANY CAR MAKER. WHAT I KNOW ABOUT CARS comes from my personal experience of the driving it plus the experiences of others. In essence I KNOW about the car maker ONLY from the cars/products.

We meaning car maker and I don't socialize nor do we attend the same church.

Former--You insist on making things up and then worshiping that thing.

HughBe--- You insist of sitting on your brain. There is NOTHING that you know of that is not made. Some are man-made while others are made a Being greater than man.

Former---I know that I know nothing

Socrates

HughBe--- Not totally true but the principle is correct.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53489 May 27, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
Frijoles / Former,
How goes it? I see some things never change.
I had to chase a 40 lb coyote out of my backyard yesterday after dinner. You remember where I live? Its not exactly wooded. Its urban.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53490 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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a real event?
Not so.
Was Noah's Ark real as well?
Did Moses part the Red Sea?
Great stories though.
I thought you said you had a good education??
HughBe---Simplifying, Christians who celebrate Christmas do so because they are celebrating a REAL EVENT and not an imaginary events as in the case of Purim.
a real event?

Former---Not so.

HughBe--- Are you really saying that Jesus was not born? Prove otherwise.

Former--Was Noah's Ark real as well?

Did Moses part the Red Sea?

HughBe--- YES and YES.

Former--Great stories though.

HughBe--- Insert TRUE

Former---I thought you said you had a good education??

HughBe--- I don't recall saying so I believe that my words could be taken to mean that. Anyhow because I am BETTER educated that those from a far I am able to see what they are not able to see.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53491 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I have every logical right to cast aspersions. You spend your time here saying the dumbest things about Jews and Judaism. At the same time, you also claim to have Jewish relatives.
Either you dont share these dumb ideas with them. Or they dont speak to you anymore.
Or more likely from a logical perspective, you are FOS with NO Jewish relatives
Frijoles----I have every logical right to cast aspersions. You spend your time here saying the dumbest things about Jews and Judaism.

HughBe--- LIAR. I speak about Judaism and its DECEPTIVE LYING rabbis and not about the Jewish people.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53492 May 27, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
Frijoles / Former,
How goes it? I see some things never change.
The homophobic, anti-Semitic Jamaican is still playing silly word games.
The conspiracy theorist is still obsessed with the bogey man.
And the former Yogi is still craving attention.
Happy Memorial Day!
Greetings Cunti, it is good to see you.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#53493 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I had to chase a 40 lb coyote out of my backyard yesterday after dinner. You remember where I live? Its not exactly wooded. Its urban.
Wow. I had heard they were making a comeback in the area. The wooded area bordering Stamford/Greenwich behind the Subaru dealership off exit 6 appears to be their home base.

The worst I've seen in my area is a fox, but they are fairly docile and scared of humans.
hjgfghg

Nashville, TN

#53494 May 27, 2013
Rick Moss wrote:
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Of course, in Saudi Arabia -- you can get the death penalty for "preaching" anything except Islam.
Jews don't preach -- we don't go knocking on people's doors and asking them http://www.dcavelaw.com/ if who they pray to or how they do it.
Most of us find it offensive and impolite.
I don't believe it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53495 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You speak for all 2 Billion Christians? Even the secular Christians, the Humanistic Christians, the Bhuddist Christians, and the 7th Day Adventists? What about the Eastern Orthodox who dont even SHARE the same day? What about the Muslim Christians?
silly you are
I know many Christians who CELEBRATE the holiday. But I cant think of single one who buys into the story literally. Maybe on your island.
Frijoles, the moronic DECEIVER---You speak for all 2 Billion Christians? Even the secular Christians,...

HughBe---Compare his IDIOTIC and self-contradicting words below. By the way is this the same fellow who repeatedly sits on this forum and speak for ALL Jews in a RELIGIOUS context? YES.

He speaks as if ALL Jews are religious and he is without excuse but he is a SLAVE to his masters.

Frijoles---Christianity is a FAITH, not a tribe.

Frijoles----Even the SECULAR Christians

HughBe--- I take it that in the RELIGION called Judaism some of its members are SECULAR and some RELIGIOUS.

Everybody knows that such things are mutually exclusive but the Judahites don't know. Pathetic.

There are NO SECULAR Christians. Christianity is a RELIGIOUS system which is the opposite of NON-RELIGIOUS or SECULAR.

Frijoles is just trying his DECEPTION because he wants to push the LIE that Jews cannot be IRRELIGIOUS or SECULAR.

He wants to help his masters to push the LIE that JEWS =RELIGION and it has NEVER meant that. Such is the EVIL of these people.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53496 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There were some. So instead of removing the hazardous trees, they removed all the trees, including those with no defects, and those that were leaning away from the road, and those whose fall zone was not even near the road. It was a logging operation, not a selective cut. And then the paper published puff piece on how nice a thing they were doing. The Merritt Parkway Conservancy rolled over totally on this one.
All they had to do was remove a selected number of the trees.
That really sxcks. Total overreaction to a few incidents sounds like.

Rt 8 is still a pretty ride. Mountain views etc.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53497 May 27, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow. I had heard they were making a comeback in the area. The wooded area bordering Stamford/Greenwich behind the Subaru dealership off exit 6 appears to be their home base.
The worst I've seen in my area is a fox, but they are fairly docile and scared of humans.
I am only a mile from there. Did someone tell you this?

Our theory is that they are living in the Westover school area.

I am not amused by any of this.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53498 May 27, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
Frijoles / Former,
How goes it? I see some things never change.
The homophobic, anti-Semitic Jamaican is still playing silly word games.
The conspiracy theorist is still obsessed with the bogey man.
And the former Yogi is still craving attention.
Happy Memorial Day!
Hey CoR, hope all is good!

The only thing new is I'm a fellow nutmegger as of last month.

Good to hear from you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53499 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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That really sxcks. Total overreaction to a few incidents sounds like.
Rt 8 is still a pretty ride. Mountain views etc.
I like route 8 a lot. I plan on hiking a bunch in Litchfield and E Hartford via that corridor. Despite the local lore about that valley and all the fun we used to make of the people who lived there when I was a kid (hillbillies of CT).

Been reading a great book on CT geology - "The Face of CT". Did you know that you live in the red soil area of CT?(brownstone valleys with basaltic trap rock ridges, formed back in the days of the dinosaurs (Mesozoic) under a tropical climate - just like the Newark basin in NJ)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53500 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles, the moronic DECEIVER---You speak for all 2 Billion Christians? Even the secular Christians,...
HughBe---Compare his IDIOTIC and self-contradicting words below. By the way is this the same fellow who repeatedly sits on this forum and speak for ALL Jews in a RELIGIOUS context? YES.
He speaks as if ALL Jews are religious and he is without excuse but he is a SLAVE to his masters.
Frijoles---Christianity is a FAITH, not a tribe.
Frijoles----Even the SECULAR Christians
HughBe--- I take it that in the RELIGION called Judaism some of its members are SECULAR and some RELIGIOUS.
Everybody knows that such things are mutually exclusive but the Judahites don't know. Pathetic.
There are NO SECULAR Christians. Christianity is a RELIGIOUS system which is the opposite of NON-RELIGIOUS or SECULAR.
Frijoles is just trying his DECEPTION because he wants to push the LIE that Jews cannot be IRRELIGIOUS or SECULAR.
He wants to help his masters to push the LIE that JEWS =RELIGION and it has NEVER meant that. Such is the EVIL of these people.
There are NO secular Christians?

LMAO

What is FR, chopped liver?

You can dish it out but you sure cant take your sht back.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53501 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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That really sxcks. Total overreaction to a few incidents sounds like.
I suspect someones brother-in-law got the contract for the tree removal.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53502 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There are NO secular Christians?
LMAO
What is FR, chopped liver?
You can dish it out but you sure cant take your sht back.
Frijoles---There are NO secular Christians?
LMAO

HughBe--- Correct. You should stop laughing through your ASS.

Secular=non-religious while Christianity is religious in nature.
The concepts are OPPOSITES, you DECEIVER.

Frijoles---What is FR, chopped liver?

HughBe--- He is a far more honest person than you are and I should add intelligent as well. He does NOT call himself Christian or SECULAR CHRISTIAN. He is not that STUPID.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53503 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Former--Too bad. The worst you can hope for is to become a super power one day.
HughBe--- did the US become a super power after the Korean war?
We were always great and could squash you people like a bug.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former--If you wish to get "better" at doing something the wrong way, then follow your own advice.
HughBe--- My son, be it good or bad, repetition will lead to perfection of skills. Take the case of crooks they practice over and over to get better at what they do. Were you ignorant of this?
If you are practicing swinging a baseball bat the wrong way, you are hot getting better. You making the incorrect swing more permanent than perfect. dig?
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Correct at the lower level of thinking and reasoning. The evidence that I have gives me FAITH in the unseen.
Slick. The evidence you speak of is of the created not the creator.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Can we all agree they are made by humans using machines?
HughBe--- Ok but the real principle is that things are MADE. Can we agree that OBJECTS don't make themselves?
To an extent. We don't know about the universe.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe---When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the
HughBe--- Let me use your words to comment. Previously YOU said, "We KNOW who made the car" and now you are accusing me of LIES. Explain to me my source of KNOWLEDGE about the car maker.
I have never READ ABOUT ANY CAR MAKER. WHAT I KNOW ABOUT CARS comes from my personal experience of the driving it plus the experiences of others. In essence I KNOW about the car maker ONLY from the cars/products.
We know the cars are made by humans. We agreed on that, right?

We know nothing about who or what created the universe.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---I know that I know nothing
Socrates
HughBe--- Not totally true but the principle is correct.
You might try admitting it as well.

It would be very refreshing.

For you and us.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53504 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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There are NO secular Christians?
LMAO
What is FR, chopped liver?
You can dish it out but you sure cant take your sht back.
Provide your private definition of SECULAR.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53505 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Provide your private definition of SECULAR.
more word games.

you introed the term first. you define it first.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#53506 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---There are NO secular Christians?
LMAO
HughBe--- Correct. You should stop laughing through your ASS.
Secular=non-religious while Christianity is religious in nature.
The concepts are OPPOSITES, you DECEIVER.
Frijoles---What is FR, chopped liver?
HughBe--- He is a far more honest person than you are and I should add intelligent as well. He does NOT call himself Christian or SECULAR CHRISTIAN. He is not that STUPID.
Ask him what he does for Christmas then

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