Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53465 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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PS: I am NOT a JEW.
Course not. You would need a dck large enough to circumsize.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53466 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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I challenge YOU and all other MONGRELS to prove me a LIAR.
I shall do a blood test and if I have the genes that link me to the seed of Israel then YOU and other CRUFFS shall pay me US$7m. That should not be a problem as you are all RICH.
I shall sign a proper legal contract that is binding in the US. I shall NOT allow you and your kind to drag me down to the low level of your rabbis.
This is no BS.
PS: I am NOT a JEW.
You are not worth the effort. You are small change.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53467 May 27, 2013
Former--Ever been to a museum?

HughBe--- YES. When you went, did you see the ship that Columbus travelled on?

Former--I think the ship is at Mystic Seaport here in Connecticut.

would you like to come and see it?

HughBe--- I agree and yes. Did you see Columbus dental records?

Former--Remember, it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice.

HughBe--- Profound and yet it is not a view that is shared by most rich persons.

Former--I would have guessed the opposite.

HughyBe-- That is expected and hence the information that I gave.

Former--I would not want to emulate whatever educational system you are a product of. All due respect of course.

HughBe--- Understood, not everyone strives for improvement. I actually got a British based education. Now they are copying the American system and are lowering the quality.

Former--Practice does not perfect, it makes permanent.

HughBe--I see so to get perfect, don't practice.

Former--Leave it to you to draw the wrong conclusion.

HughBe--- wrong is RIGHT for you and vice versa.

Former---It's about WHAT one is practicing, not the practicing itself.

HughBe--- What is practised will not change the fact that repetition will make one get better and better and eventually perfect.

Former--Again, nothing about facts or reality. It exist solely in your minds.

HughBe-- your parents surely dropped you on your head when you were a baby. The celebration of Purim even though based on a LIE exists in REALITY.

Former--Of course.

HughBe--- Thanks for the confirmation. Hush.

HughBe--- The things DONE are REAL. They are NOT philosophy.

Former--Yes.

HughBe--- progress

Former--You have not one shred of evidence to support this statement.

HughBe--- Go to the nearest synagogue, church or mosque and you shall see the things that are done. They are not make-believe.

Former--yes of course.

HughBe--- My hope is growing exponentially.

Former--If faith is belief without evidence then why do you keep talking about evidence?

HughBe--- My faith has EVIDENCE but what kind of EVIDENCE?

Former--Why do you claim evidence when there is none?

HughBe--- Why so much BS or CS? Listen to me well, when I see a car I KNOW that it was made. I see the EVIDENCE of the maker. I don't see the maker.

Former--Big difference.

We know who made the car.

HughBe-- WE know but I don't know. I have NEVER met a car maker. Common sense tells me that cars don't drop out of the sky.

HughBe---When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the EVIDENCE. The same principle for the car.

Former---Big difference.

HughBe--- WRONG. IDENTICAL is the correct word.

Former--We don't know anything about who or what made all this.

HughBe--- I know about the Maker from what is made.

Former--You insist on making things up and then worshiping that thing.

HughBe--- You insist of sitting on your brain. There is NOTHING that you know of that is not made. Some are man-made while others are made a Being greater than man.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53468 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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yeah - 2 Billion Christians and they share the EXACT same meaning of the holiday that you do
not
Simplifying, Christians who celebrate Christmas do so because they are celebrating a REAL EVENT and not an imaginary events as in the case of Purim.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53469 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Actually - it is chanted by a leader and we follow along
call it what you want
Frijoles---I did say, however, that the only time I READ the megillot is in synagogue.

HughBe--- Your actual words were, "No, I only read in the synagogue."
I see a difference and I don't see the word "megillot" in it. Do you ?

Memory tells me that you spoke of RECITING the story and that is NOT reading to me.

Frijoles---Actually - it is chanted by a leader and we follow along

call it what you want

HughBe--- You called it READING then RECITING and NOW CHANTING.

Impressive and no doubt it is a reflection of your equally impressive educational system there.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53470 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I dont give a hoot what you are
I am asking you to pull your weight here for once and ask some of these questions to your Jewish relatives
Actually you did more than that by casting aspersions on what I have asserted as a FACT.

Forgiven.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53471 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Ask your relatives
HughBe---When did Hebrew become a sacred religious language?
Was Hebrew spoken by ONLY one group?
Was it used only in a RELIGIOUS ceremonies?

Frijoles---Ask your relatives

HughBe--- STOP dodging.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53472 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Course not. You would need a dck large enough to circumsize.
Dr. F, that was funny.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53473 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You are not worth the effort. You are small change.
You are a large ass and an enlarged one.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53476 May 27, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Merrit would of been nicer if the State didnt declare Jihad on the trees on the side of the road. Now it looks like every other highway in America.
95 is hopeless. Construction. Finish construction. Start new construction. Endless loop as far as I remember.
I heard they were falling down on motorists.

Like cl + p. Folks don't want the trees cut but
get mad when they lose power.

Tough balancing act.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53477 May 27, 2013
later boys
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53478 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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I heard they were falling down on motorists.
Like cl + p. Folks don't want the trees cut but
get mad when they lose power.
Tough balancing act.
don't cry. see you later.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53479 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Former--I would not want to emulate whatever educational system you are a product of. All due respect of course.
HughBe--- Understood, not everyone strives for improvement. I actually got a British based education. Now they are copying the American system and are lowering the quality.
Too bad. The worst you can hope for is to become a super power one day.
HughBe wrote:
Former---It's about WHAT one is practicing, not the practicing itself.
HughBe--- What is practised will not change the fact that repetition will make one get better and better and eventually perfect.
If you wish to get "better" at doing something the wrong way, then follow your own advice.
HughBe wrote:
Former--If faith is belief without evidence then why do you keep talking about evidence?
HughBe--- My faith has EVIDENCE but what kind of EVIDENCE?
Faith by definition requires no evidence.

If you have evidence, you do need faith.

Silly 'tard.
HughBe wrote:
We know who made the car.
HughBe-- WE know but I don't know. I have NEVER met a car maker. Common sense tells me that cars don't drop out of the sky.
Can we all agree they are made by humans using machines?
HughBe wrote:
HughBe---When I see the vastness of the universe I see the EVIDENCE of a Maker. I do NOT see the Maker but I see the EVIDENCE. The same principle for the car.
Former---Big difference.
HughBe--- WRONG. IDENTICAL is the correct word.
Former--We don't know anything about who or what made all this.
HughBe--- I know about the Maker from what is made.
No you don't.

Lies and deception.

Is this your way?
HughBe wrote:
Former--You insist on making things up and then worshiping that thing.
HughBe--- You insist of sitting on your brain. There is NOTHING that you know of that is not made. Some are man-made while others are made a Being greater than man.
I know that I know nothing

Socrates
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53480 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Simplifying, Christians who celebrate Christmas do so because they are celebrating a REAL EVENT and not an imaginary events as in the case of Purim.
a real event?

Not so.

Was Noah's Ark real as well?

Did Moses part the Red Sea?

Great stories though.

I thought you said you had a good education??

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53481 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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I heard they were falling down on motorists.
Like cl + p. Folks don't want the trees cut but
get mad when they lose power.
Tough balancing act.
There were some. So instead of removing the hazardous trees, they removed all the trees, including those with no defects, and those that were leaning away from the road, and those whose fall zone was not even near the road. It was a logging operation, not a selective cut. And then the paper published puff piece on how nice a thing they were doing. The Merritt Parkway Conservancy rolled over totally on this one.

All they had to do was remove a selected number of the trees.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53482 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Simplifying, Christians who celebrate Christmas do so because they are celebrating a REAL EVENT and not an imaginary events as in the case of Purim.
You speak for all 2 Billion Christians? Even the secular Christians, the Humanistic Christians, the Bhuddist Christians, and the 7th Day Adventists? What about the Eastern Orthodox who dont even SHARE the same day? What about the Muslim Christians?

silly you are

I know many Christians who CELEBRATE the holiday. But I cant think of single one who buys into the story literally. Maybe on your island.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53483 May 27, 2013
former res wrote:
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a real event?
Not so.
Was Noah's Ark real as well?
Did Moses part the Red Sea?
Great stories though.
I thought you said you had a good education??
See. Case in point.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53484 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- You called it READING then RECITING and NOW CHANTING.
Impressive and no doubt it is a reflection of your equally impressive educational system there.
I am not sure I know, or want to know, why any of that makes a difference.

I dont do the chanting. The leader does that. I follow. Is that reading? I would think so. Is that reciting? Whats the difference?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53485 May 27, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Actually you did more than that by casting aspersions on what I have asserted as a FACT.
Forgiven.
I have every logical right to cast aspersions. You spend your time here saying the dumbest things about Jews and Judaism. At the same time, you also claim to have Jewish relatives.

Either you dont share these dumb ideas with them. Or they dont speak to you anymore.

Or more likely from a logical perspective, you are FOS with NO Jewish relatives

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#53486 May 27, 2013
Frijoles / Former,

How goes it? I see some things never change.

The homophobic, anti-Semitic Jamaican is still playing silly word games.

The conspiracy theorist is still obsessed with the bogey man.

And the former Yogi is still craving attention.

Happy Memorial Day!

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