Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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former res

Cheshire, CT

#53172 May 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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It does kind of cut to the chase, doesnt it?
He's a legend in his own walnut-size mind!
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53173 May 24, 2013
former res wrote:
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Yes, stories.
Though meaningful to the believers.
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Stories mostly for children.
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You actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Pure speculation.
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Really?
Your god is in the history books?
Pure BS. Now you're just being a silly Jamaican.
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I'll leave that to the historians.
Your faith is based on "belief without evidence."
Didn't you know that?
HughBe--- WHY do you think that the Jewish people FABRICATED these FAIRY TALES? Why do YOU cast aspersion on the INTEGRITY of the Jewish people?

Former---NEVER said that.

HughBe--- YOU did, YOU called their reported HISTORY and experiences FAIRY TALES.

Former---Yes, stories.

HughBe--- What a reversal? You said that you NEVER did and now you confess that you did. The disappointment is that your confession is SLIMY and seeks to DECEIVE. YOU now speak of STORIES when your actual words were FAIRY TALES.

Lesson for this morning, STORIES can be TRUE fairy tales are NEVER true.

Your words, "I do not think less of you for believing in FAIRY TALES tales." )

HughBe---What are FAIRY TALES?

Former---Stories mostly for children.

HughBe--- Deceptive as usual they are UNTRUE and are FABRICATIONS.

Former---Do you have evidence to back up this statement?

HughBe--- I would say the same amount of evidence that I have of slavery 200 years ago in America. I was NOT there.

Former---Really?

HughBe--- Yes really, I am NOT as old as you are and clearly you were alive 200 years ago. I rely on the reports of others.

Former--Your god is in the history books?

HughBe--- I am my own god. Almighty God is in the history books, every IDIOT knows this so why not YOU?

Former---Otherwise, I don't believe it.

HughBe--- Tell me the evidence that you have of a chap called Christopher Columbus. Demonstrate why your evidence is superior to the history of the Jewish people.

Former--I'll leave that to the historians.

HughBe--- Utter BS, dodger. You come here talking garbage and when confronted with basic logic you FAIL to handle it. You have been TRAPPED in your own STUPIDITY.

YOU have just demonstrated that your beliefs are based on FAITH.

Got to go.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53174 May 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- What a reversal? You said that you NEVER did and now you confess that you did. The disappointment is that your confession is SLIMY and seeks to DECEIVE. YOU now speak of STORIES when your actual words were FAIRY TALES.
A fairy tale is certainly a type of story.
HughBe wrote:
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Lesson for this morning, STORIES can be TRUE fairy tales are NEVER true.
True.

Your bible would be an example of the latter.

Though much beloved like many children's stories.
HughBe wrote:
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Your words, "I do not think less of you for believing in FAIRY TALES tales." )
HughBe---What are FAIRY TALES?
Former---Stories mostly for children.
HughBe--- Deceptive as usual they are UNTRUE and are FABRICATIONS.
You were implying I was calling the authors of the bible liars.

Not true at all.

I explained how it all most likely came about.

Nice little fables written many years ago and passed down through
the generations, and along the way, some folks began to believe they were actually true.

This doesn't make you stupid.

More like innocent, vulnerable, child-like.

Mostly harmless to the thinking population.
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Yes really, I am NOT as old as you are and clearly you were alive 200 years ago. I rely on the reports of others.
Yes, reports. Multiple sources and actual historical events.

Historical documentation.
HughBe wrote:
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Former--Your god is in the history books?
HughBe--- I am my own god. Almighty God is in the history books, every IDIOT knows this so why not YOU?
God is not in the history books.

However worship of false idols is.

There is evidence there was a man named Jesus. But that he was the son of a god is pure speculation and fantasy.

If the belief makes you happy, that's all that matters.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53175 May 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- I am my own god. Almighty God is in the history books, every IDIOT knows this so why not YOU?
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Again, goes to show that the educational system of your country is not up to par.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53176 May 24, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- Tell me the evidence that you have of a chap called Christopher Columbus. Demonstrate why your evidence is superior to the history of the Jewish people.
Former--I'll leave that to the historians.
HughBe--- Utter BS, dodger. You come here talking garbage and when confronted with basic logic you FAIL to handle it. You have been TRAPPED in your own STUPIDITY.
YOU have just demonstrated that your beliefs are based on FAITH.
Got to go.
Are you that academically challenged that you cant see the difference between accepted published peer reviewed history and your bible?

Do you believe that the earth is flat?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53177 May 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Again, goes to show that the educational system of your country is not up to par.
His Jamaican history books would probably only make the grade here in a handful of states, maybe, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama....

Places I would only go to for their BBQ.

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#53178 May 24, 2013
One dunce (Frijoles) calling another (Hugh) a dunce. LOL.

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#53181 May 24, 2013
Encore. Encore. Encore. Bye.

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#53186 May 24, 2013
AUROVILLE - the international city in South India established by the Mother, Sri-Aurobindo's Jewish spiritual collaborator - is one of the hippest places in the world to hang out in - what a great combination of yoga, philosophy, harmony, intellect, globalization, aesthetics, art, architecture, sustainable living and gastronomy. Its raison d'etre - infusion of the supramental state of consciousness into matter and enlightened community living sans religion, caste, language, nationality, scripture, rituals, racism and social status. Wow!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53188 May 24, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
AUROVILLE - the international city in South India established by the Mother, Sri-Aurobindo's Jewish spiritual collaborator - is one of the hippest places in the world to hang out in - what a great combination of yoga, philosophy, harmony, intellect, globalization, aesthetics, art, architecture, sustainable living and gastronomy. Its raison d'etre - infusion of the supramental state of consciousness into matter and enlightened community living sans religion, caste, language, nationality, scripture, rituals, racism and social status. Wow!
Who would of thought?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53189 May 24, 2013
former res wrote:
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His Jamaican history books would probably only make the grade here in a handful of states, maybe, Texas, Mississippi, Alabama....
Places I would only go to for their BBQ.
The irony I see in that is that these are all places where large portions of the populace probably share deep values and lifestyle with Huggy, but also probably hate him as well. Maybe that isnt an irony though. Maybe that is just a logical outcome of that shared mentality.

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#53190 May 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Who would of thought?
Hey, enjoy!

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#53191 May 24, 2013
Dr Aviram Rozin, an Israeli national and an Aurovilian, runs Sadhana Forest in Auroville. Aviram's so inspirational. He's a clinical psychologist by training. Yuval's another great guy in Auroville. There're score of very special people living and working there. Thumbs up!

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#53192 May 24, 2013
typo - there're SCORES of....
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53193 May 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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The irony I see in that is that these are all places where large portions of the populace probably share deep values and lifestyle with Huggy, but also probably hate him as well. Maybe that isnt an irony though. Maybe that is just a logical outcome of that shared mentality.
yeah these are the same nice folks who might like you until you forget to stand for the pledge of allegiance or you accidently go out without your flag pin on.

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#53194 May 24, 2013
Catholic Church in market for more exorcists

A spokesman for the archdiocese in Madrid says it has only one such priest and is considering a plan to train more

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/24/catholic_chur...

MADRID — The Catholic archdiocese in Madrid says it needs more exorcists to help some of its faithful cope with the devil.

An archdiocese spokeswoman said Friday that Madrid only has one exorcist priest and that it is considering a plan to train more. She spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with archdiocese policy.

“The devil exists. That’s a fact,” she told The Associated Press.

Only a priest authorized by a bishop can perform an exorcism and the brief rite involves blessings with holy water, prayers and an interrogation of the devil by the exorcist during which the demon is asked to leave the victim.

ReligionenLibertad, a Catholic website, blames the growing secularization of Spanish society for what it calls an increase in people asking for help with their demons.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53195 May 24, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Catholic Church in market for more exorcists
A spokesman for the archdiocese in Madrid says it has only one such priest and is considering a plan to train more
http://www.salon.com/2013/05/24/catholic_chur...
MADRID — The Catholic archdiocese in Madrid says it needs more exorcists to help some of its faithful cope with the devil.
An archdiocese spokeswoman said Friday that Madrid only has one exorcist priest and that it is considering a plan to train more. She spoke on condition of anonymity in keeping with archdiocese policy.
“The devil exists. That’s a fact,” she told The Associated Press.
Only a priest authorized by a bishop can perform an exorcism and the brief rite involves blessings with holy water, prayers and an interrogation of the devil by the exorcist during which the demon is asked to leave the victim.
ReligionenLibertad, a Catholic website, blames the growing secularization of Spanish society for what it calls an increase in people asking for help with their demons.
Wow. I would have thought after the Linda Blair movie many would have "flocked" (!) to the job.

Sort of like when dude ranch business increased after "City Slickers" came out.

I bet Huggy really believes in all this stuff!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#53196 May 24, 2013
former res wrote:
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Wow. I would have thought after the Linda Blair movie many would have "flocked" (!) to the job.
Sort of like when dude ranch business increased after "City Slickers" came out.
I bet Huggy really believes in all this stuff!
Yes, in a down economy this represents opportunity

I dont get the secular connection. More seculars causing more satanic activity? Or more seculars means an erosion of technical personnel capable of performing exorcisms?

Satan is so yesterday. Evidence ATF. The future is in demonizing the government.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53197 May 25, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Again, goes to show that the educational system of your country is not up to par.
HughBe--- I am my own god. Almighty God is in the history books, every IDIOT knows this so why not YOU?

Frijoles---Again, goes to show that the educational system of your country is not up to par.

HughBe--- It certainly is FAR SUPERIOR to what obtains in the US.

Now DUNCE this is your first set of lessons for today.

1. The bible has an awful lot of HISTORY.
2. The bible consists of many BOOKS with different writers.
3. Speaking for Jamaica, anyone here with a high school education knows that there are books in the bible that are HISTORICAL books. One example, the book of CHRONICLES.

I take it that Americans even those with a PhD like YOU and possessing a strong religious background do NOT know of the historical books of the bible.

Getting back, do YOU know what the word CHRONICLE means? Of course not you are a Judahite among other things. As a Judahite, you certainly know about LYING and HATING and DECEPTION.

Let me help you, CHRONICLE is a HISTORY.

Teach these things to your rabbis.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53198 May 25, 2013
My boy Frijoles, what do you call the book of Esther?

Is it a HISTORICAL book?
Is it a book of FICTION?

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