Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53131 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Why do you spend energy on this?
Its past the point of absurd.
Explain - And the children of Dan set up the graven image: and Jonathan, the son of Gershom, the son of Manasseh, he and his sons were priests to the tribe of Dan until the day of the captivity of the land."

Give years involved and number them by HUNDREDS.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53132 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You aspire to be a zombie?
Really?
Clearly you are not a native speaker of the English Language.
Voluntarist

United States

#53133 May 23, 2013
former res wrote:
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I had heard somewhere that they looked into (and maybe even tried to) "seed" clouds to increase rain in areas that needed it.
Why would the gov't in your view only attempt destructive rather than constructive effects to the weather?
To what end?
Well if the government has the ability to decrease the potency of storms, why haven't they done it?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53134 May 23, 2013


Frijoles, explain 1 and 2 below. Reconcile the REJECTION of Jews as IDOLATERS because they embrace Jesus and the idea that ISRAEL must be left alone with IDOLS providing there is peace.

"There is even a sense that PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God. In response to Hosea 4:17 ("Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone."), the Midrash says, "even if Israel is tied to idols, leave him, as long as peace prevails within it" (Genesis Rabbah 38:6)."

1. PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God.

2."even if ISRAEL is tied to IDOLS, LEAVE HIM....

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issue...
Voluntarist

United States

#53135 May 23, 2013
former res wrote:
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You mean like when W enacted the Patriot Act after 9/11 and added the dept of Homeland Security, TSA etc?
The folks on the right all play on fear and ignorance.
The conspiracy nuts mostly just on the latter.
Yes that is correct so it doesnt matter if there is an r or a d next to their name.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53136 May 23, 2013
Frijoles,

A few minutes ago I wrote, your god-men have fabricated their own laws and have subordinated the laws of their Maker to their own laws.

I went searching for something and look what I found, CONFIRMATION or an example of my words.

What manner of MADNESS is taught and promoted in JUDAISM?

1. PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God.

2."even if ISRAEL is tied to IDOLS, LEAVE HIM....
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53137 May 23, 2013
"because the need to PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles--apparently even non&#8209;idolatrous Gentiles--is given by the Talmud as a further reason to forbid consumption of their wine, Rabbi Zemah ruled that Muslim wine was still unfit to be drunk by a Jew. "

1."PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles"

2. WHY?

3. Who benefits from the lack of SOCIALIZATION? RABBIS. They can then MISLEAD the people and the Jewish people will not know that they are being misled because there is no SOCIALIZATION and as such they will not truly know how others feel and think.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issue...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53138 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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What are my theological beliefs?
Do you know that they are found in the scriptures ONLY?
Had you embraced the scriptures ONLY then based on what you are saying YOU would be a Christian but alas your god-men have fabricated their own laws and have subordinated the laws of their Maker to their own laws.
What makes you feel that I have to accept anything that you and the ENTIRE world says?
As long as I am alive I shall REJECT all that is the world that I think are WRONG including labels and practices.
You are obsessed with Jesus and you want the rest of us to follow along

Thats pretty white bread Christian.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53139 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
"because the need to PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles--apparently even non&#8209;idolatrous Gentiles--is given by the Talmud as a further reason to forbid consumption of their wine, Rabbi Zemah ruled that Muslim wine was still unfit to be drunk by a Jew. "
1."PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles"
2. WHY?
3. Who benefits from the lack of SOCIALIZATION? RABBIS. They can then MISLEAD the people and the Jewish people will not know that they are being misled because there is no SOCIALIZATION and as such they will not truly know how others feel and think.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issue...
Jihad against the Rabbis continues

I guess its a slow day in Jamaica. No gays to beat up on.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53140 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Frijoles, explain 1 and 2 below. Reconcile the REJECTION of Jews as IDOLATERS because they embrace Jesus and the idea that ISRAEL must be left alone with IDOLS providing there is peace.
"There is even a sense that PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God. In response to Hosea 4:17 ("Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone."), the Midrash says, "even if Israel is tied to idols, leave him, as long as peace prevails within it" (Genesis Rabbah 38:6)."
1. PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God.
2."even if ISRAEL is tied to IDOLS, LEAVE HIM....
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/beliefs/Issue...
S uck me
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53141 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- WHY do you think that the Jewish people FABRICATED these FAIRY TALES? Why do YOU cast aspersion on the INTEGRITY of the Jewish people?
Never said that.

Folks are free to believe what they wish.

Somewhere along the line, someone began to believe the stories were true and a religion was born.

Many people feel the need for that in their lives.

“If God created us in his own image, we have more than reciprocated."
&#8213; Voltaire
HughBe wrote:
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We are NOT talking about religious dogmas that came out of the orifices of rabbis we are talking about actual EXPERIENCES of the Jewish people.
Do you have evidence to back up this statement?

Otherwise, I don't believe it.
HughBe wrote:
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Former--I also stopped being Catholic.
HughBe--- Are YOU ethno-religious?
I do not have that honor.

I am a shanty Irishman.
HughBe wrote:
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Former----People are free to cancel or change their beliefs.
HughBe--- And YOU have the right to INSIST that they are still RELIGIOUS even when they have rejected religion.
Read the line of mine to which you are responding and you will see how ass-backwards your statement is. Retard.
HughBe wrote:
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Former--Does not change the ethnoreligious history of the Jews.
HUghBe--- Your agenda is NOT TRUTH instead it consists of LIES and DECEPTION.
No back rub for you tonight. Bitch.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53142 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Or Gremlins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlins
Makes them multiply.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53143 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
Former---How does ones sexuality impact/affect you?
HughBe--- Question DODGED as usual. In many ways for example IDIOTS like you will tell lies on me because I DISAGREE with HOMOSEXUALITY.
"Disagreeing with homosexuality" is like disagreeing with brown eyes or brown skin.

It makes no sense. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality, just is.

Stop fighting gravity. Nature is what it is.

Wake up my kinky haired backward friend. You are a dinosaur.
HughBe wrote:
Example, calling me homophobic just because I don't accept the NASTY practice. I neither FEAR which is what a PHOBIA is nor HATE homosexuals. Recall your LYING words "You are a homophobe."
You're a homophobe.
HughBe wrote:
HughBe--- Gay fellow,I neither FEAR homosexuals nor do I DISCRIMINATE against them. I believe that the CRIMINAL minded nastiness that pushes these LIES on people should be LOCKED up.
Homophobes should be rounded up and put on an island in the West Indies.
HughBe wrote:
HughBe --However, HOMOSEXUALITY remains WRONG and a SIN.
Former--Says who? Prove who said this and explain
why you believe it.
HughBe--- I just said it. The proof is beyond the scope of your comprehension skills.
Cop out. You have not a leg to stand on in you beliefs.

"It's true 'casue I said so!" LOL!!!!!
HughBe wrote:
Former---Are you saying it is wrong BECAUSE you think it's a sin or is there also some other reason why you say it is wrong??
HughBe-- It is a SIN because it transgresses God's law.
Says who?

Who's god?

Why is this imaginary being's words so important to you that you will shun an entire segment of the worlds population on his say so?

Sounds a little shaky to me.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53144 May 23, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Well if the government has the ability to decrease the potency of storms, why haven't they done it?
Please share the evidence that they do have this ability.

Quality source, please - if you have any.

Thanks in advance.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#53145 May 23, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Yes that is correct so it doesnt matter if there is an r or a d next to their name.
Mistake on both sides.

But I still like our side better.

Smaller, much less significant mistakes.

Only FoxNews thinks otherwise.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53146 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You are obsessed with Jesus and you want the rest of us to follow along
Thats pretty white bread Christian.
BS is noted
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53147 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Jihad against the Rabbis continues
I guess its a slow day in Jamaica. No gays to beat up on.
Boy, am I the author of these words, "the need to PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles--apparently even non&#8209;idolatrous Gentiles--is given by the Talmud as a further reason to forbid consumption of their wine, Rabbi Zemah ruled that Muslim wine was still unfit to be drunk by a Jew. "

NO.

Your rabbis have waged a Jihad against themselves with their own STUPIDITY and EVIL. The quote came from a JEWISH site.

Again,
1."PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles"
2. WHY?
3. Who benefits from the lack of SOCIALIZATION? RABBIS
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53148 May 23, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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S uck me
The wisdom of your SAGES follow.

1. PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God.
2."even if ISRAEL is tied to IDOLS, LEAVE HIM...

Please explain their profound wisdom above.

I thought that once you are a Jew and you are into IDOLATRY your god-men says that you are no longer a Jew but here they CONTRADICT themselves. The CHRISTIAN Jews who have had their IDENTITY taken from them by the pharaohs must be comforted with #2 above. "LEAVE him" the sages say.

What an abusive and EVIL set of people your rabbis are. Can you imagine any SANE person however STUPID even at the level of the rabbis saying that " PEACE is MORE important THAN LOYALTY to God."

In my mind it takes MADNESS and or EVIL to ejaculate such a thing.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#53149 May 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Boy, am I the author of these words, "the need to PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles--apparently even non&#8209;idolatrous Gentiles--is given by the Talmud as a further reason to forbid consumption of their wine, Rabbi Zemah ruled that Muslim wine was still unfit to be drunk by a Jew. "
NO.
Your rabbis have waged a Jihad against themselves with their own STUPIDITY and EVIL. The quote came from a JEWISH site.
Again,
1."PREVENT SOCIALIZATION with the Gentiles"
2. WHY?
3. Who benefits from the lack of SOCIALIZATION? RABBIS
Jihad against the Rabbis continues

I guess its a slow day in Jamaica. No gays to beat up on.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#53150 May 23, 2013
former res wrote:
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"Disagreeing with homosexuality" is like disagreeing with brown eyes or brown skin.
It makes no sense. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality, just is.
Stop fighting gravity. Nature is what it is.
Wake up my kinky haired backward friend. You are a dinosaur.
<quoted text>
You're a homophobe.
<quoted text>
Homophobes should be rounded up and put on an island in the West Indies.
<quoted text>
Cop out. You have not a leg to stand on in you beliefs.
"It's true 'casue I said so!" LOL!!!!!
<quoted text>
Says who?
Who's god?
Why is this imaginary being's words so important to you that you will shun an entire segment of the worlds population on his say so?
Sounds a little shaky to me.
Former---"Disagreeing with homosexuality" is like disagreeing with brown eyes or brown skin.

HughBe--- I thought that you were NOT religious but I was wrong. What you have said is PURE faith it is NOT science.

Former---It makes no sense. Homosexuality, like heterosexuality, just is.

HUghBe--- Both are "just is" as you have said but HOMOSEXUALITY "just is" UNNATURAL and unclean while hetero.. "just is" is clean and natural.

Former---Stop fighting gravity. Nature is what it is.

HughBe--- Your lack of thinking skills account for your acceptance and no doubt PRACTISE of homosexuality. If people did not fight gravity there would be no space travel or research etc. Wake up you are living in the 21st century.

Former---Wake up my kinky haired backward friend.

HughBe--- I love my kinky hair I really do. Are YOU jealousy of it?

Former--You are a dinosaur.

HughBe--- It appears that you are not only having trouble identifying the different sexes but there is also a challenge in identifying species.

HughBe--- Gay fellow,I neither FEAR homosexuals nor do I DISCRIMINATE against them. I believe that the CRIMINAL minded nastiness that pushes these LIES on people should be LOCKED up.

Former---Homophobes should be rounded up and put on an island in the West Indies.

HughBe--- I see that you are tired of the white pencils and CRAVE chewing on some BIG BAMBOOS.

Former---Who's god?

HughBe--- I am god.

Former---Why is this imaginary being's words so important to you that you will shun an entire segment of the worlds population on his say so?

HughBe--- Meaningless and STUPID words.

Former---Sounds a little shaky to me.

HughBe--- Take your medications the shaky "sounds" that you speak of is only in your head.

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