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former res

Cheshire, CT

#52780 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
You can not lien without a judicial order, and liens could and have been removed.
So?!

Al Capone.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52781 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I am glad that you agree that there is a gun to your head to pay taxes.
Nothing new if you've been paying attention.

I've repeatedly made reference to the force of law and negative consequences of failing to pay one's tax bill.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#52782 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Simple chemistry as the basic idea is simple. But you complexify it in order to make people think you are gifted or educated.

And you miss the point, and in this case, the whole basis of the problem. Even Time Magazine does a better treatment of the issue.
MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED DUNCE WITH ZERO REASONING SKILLS.

Why are any of the equations out of place when actually they put the topic on a firm footing by stating the processes in mathematical equations which is the correct way to approach the subject.

You're like that fool and ill-educated Seeker who talks about MOTION OF A BODY without specifying the frame of reference - inertial or non-inertial - and the kind of motion - translational, rotational etc. Even his definition and understanding of the Newton's 1st law is flawed and highly incomplete and then my mathematical explanation of the 1st law placed it in the correct perspective.

Things are not as simple as you think they are.

I can't talk chem or physics with an low IQ poster like you who knows nothing about the fundamentals/advanced laws of science except for indulging in verbal gymnastics.

You don't even know how to calculate the equivalent mass of a molecule in a redox equation. LOL.

I can't imagine studying physics or chem without math since math is the basis of these subjects.

Everything has to be accompanied by mathematical equations to brings out the dynamics/laws at work.

Anyway, it doesn't matter since you are extremely low down the intellectual scale.

Take care, Papa.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#52783 May 19, 2013
Ya Ma.

(smiles)
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52784 May 19, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---You're a Jew of color like Sammy Davis, Jr.
HughBe--- I am NOT a Jew. I am here on earth in part because of Jewish biology. I am Jet-black in colour and beautiful.
Former---I had thought you were Christian.
HughBe--- Some Jews are Christians. Some Jews are into Eastern religions. Many Jews are into Judaism. Many Jews are like you and are NOT into any god or God.
Jews are RACE. Jews are NOT religion.
Christians consider Sunday to be the Sabbath.

Do you believe JC was your savior?

Do you believe in the trinity?

I think you're saying you have Jewish blood in you. But not religiously Jewish. OK - I understand.

We did cover all this. You deny the ethnoreligious nature of Jews. Not sure why. Why?

This concept is widely known and accepted.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52785 May 19, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---Well then you agree more with the other fellow, Voluntarist.
HughBe--- Perhaps but I believe that I am in agreement with you but I have chosen different words. Read the posts below again.
Former---I pay them because it's a DEBT and
if one does not pay he is subject to legal proceeding/entanglements
which would result in fines, high legal costs and possible imprisonment.
HughBe--- I would use the word DUTY instead of DEBT even if legally it is called a DEBT.
I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input.
I am also inclined to see it as COVETOUSNESS by those who have power to take my money against my will.
In essence it is a type of extortion.
"I am inclined to see it as FORCED payments that are determined by others without my input.
I am also inclined to see it as COVETOUSNESS by those who have power to take my money against my will.
In essence it is a type of extortion. "

As stated, I don't agree with this part.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#52786 May 19, 2013
Biology? LOL.

Biology these days - even something as fundamental as photosynthesis - is increasingly being explained in terms of QM and as known the laws of thermodynamics are important underlying principles of biology. These thermodynamic principles govern the chemical processes in all biological systems.....Dunces with poor grasp of the basics of science and with zero math skills won't know and won't understand any of this.

(grins)

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#52787 May 19, 2013
Just some time back, I rushed to the loo to make su su. A few drops had stained my pristine white cotton-silk pajamas. Aha, I'm relieved now. I'm siting here in a fresh pajama suit.

(smiles)
Voluntarist

United States

#52788 May 19, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Can words on a paper constitute a contract?
I would say very clearly yes.
Tort? Not sure where you're getting that from.
As usual don't know what your point is if in fact you have one.
Not if they don't have all of the necessary elements of a contract, there are 4.
Voluntarist

United States

#52789 May 19, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing new if you've been paying attention.
I've repeatedly made reference to the force of law and negative consequences of failing to pay one's tax bill.
So then you can conclude that government is just a group of men and women providing a service from the barrel of a gun.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52790 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
So then you can conclude that government is just a group of men and women providing a service from the barrel of a gun.
I think you mean YOU conclude. Other people conclude otherwise.

Private conclusion.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52791 May 19, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
MATHEMATICALLY CHALLENGED DUNCE WITH ZERO REASONING SKILLS.
Why are any of the equations out of place when actually they put the topic on a firm footing by stating the processes in mathematical equations which is the correct way to approach the subject.
You're like that fool and ill-educated Seeker who talks about MOTION OF A BODY without specifying the frame of reference - inertial or non-inertial - and the kind of motion - translational, rotational etc. Even his definition and understanding of the Newton's 1st law is flawed and highly incomplete and then my mathematical explanation of the 1st law placed it in the correct perspective.
Things are not as simple as you think they are.
I can't talk chem or physics with an low IQ poster like you who knows nothing about the fundamentals/advanced laws of science except for indulging in verbal gymnastics.
You don't even know how to calculate the equivalent mass of a molecule in a redox equation. LOL.
I can't imagine studying physics or chem without math since math is the basis of these subjects.
Everything has to be accompanied by mathematical equations to brings out the dynamics/laws at work.
Anyway, it doesn't matter since you are extremely low down the intellectual scale.
Take care, Papa.
all of that but still

1) You thought your notion about generation vs transference was actual original

2) you couldnt even recognize that the seas are a SINK for carbon, or why that might just matter


Like I said, unimpressed.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52792 May 19, 2013
Hughbe

Do you vote?
Voluntarist

United States

#52793 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you mean YOU conclude. Other people conclude otherwise.
Private conclusion.
No, former has admitted that he pays taxes by force.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52794 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
No, former has admitted that he pays taxes by force.
I believe he said he pays them out of a sense of obligation with awareness of what might happen if he doesnt pay.

But we will let him answer that

Your world is very black and white.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52795 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
So then you can conclude that government is just a group of men and women providing a service from the barrel of a gun.
Government is the name we give those things we have decided to do together.

I can already hear your simple mind working....so....

No, not every single one of us has to agree, given the form of government we have.

This to me goes without saying. But clearly not for you.

You prefer to focus on our differences rather than our similarities. Too bad.

Government is us.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52796 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
No, former has admitted that he pays taxes by force.
I don't let it get to that point.

Do you not speed in your car due to force?

Or to keep from getting a ticket and increased insurance premiums?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52797 May 19, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
So then you can conclude that government is just a group of men and women providing a service from the barrel of a gun.
The major difference between your view and mine (and probably 98% of the rest of society) is that you feel an injustice because there is some type of implicit contract between the government and the people of which you never consented to.

Therefore, in your view, that contract is invalid (or, in your words - never a contract in the first place since it lacked articulation and/or your participation in all 4 crucial elements)

Others such as me understand that contract as a public contract, not a private contract. That is we subcontract (no pun intended) portions of the articulation AND acceptance to our agents (i.e. our elected officials and our staff (agencies such as IRS, legal system etc etc).

So it is not a question of contract, its the fundamental question of whether you recognize our form of government or not. So far, the vibes I get from you is that you do not.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52798 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The major difference between your view and mine (and probably 98% of the rest of society) is that you feel an injustice because there is some type of implicit contract between the government and the people of which you never consented to.
Therefore, in your view, that contract is invalid (or, in your words - never a contract in the first place since it lacked articulation and/or your participation in all 4 crucial elements)
Others such as me understand that contract as a public contract, not a private contract. That is we subcontract (no pun intended) portions of the articulation AND acceptance to our agents (i.e. our elected officials and our staff (agencies such as IRS, legal system etc etc).
So it is not a question of contract, its the fundamental question of whether you recognize our form of government or not. So far, the vibes I get from you is that you do not.
Not unlike nice folks like Timothy McVeigh.

He isn't with us anymore.

Ted Kaczynski seemed a smart fellow but felt an "otherness" and
preferred to live off the grid and to march to his own drummer.

Many of these folks also seem to hold a lot of resentment against society, the government, technology, whatever.

Reminds of a quote from "The Wild One" (1953) with Marlin Brando:

Mildred: Hey Johnny, what are you rebelling against?

Johnny: Whadda you got?
Voluntarist

United States

#52800 May 19, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe he said he pays them out of a sense of obligation with awareness of what might happen if he doesnt pay.
But we will let him answer that
Your world is very black and white.
Says nothing here about obligation;

former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Nothing new if you've been paying
attention.
I've repeatedly made reference to the force
of law and negative consequences of failing
to pay one's tax bill.

"awareness of what might happen", is the gun that I as referring to.

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