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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52514 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Let me rephrase, a consumption tax at retail not one at every stage of the creating of a product, that is what is being proposed.
And you can't trust politicians to get rid of income tax.
The irs should be abolished.
Why? I dont see any harm done.

"...On the IRS mess, the day closed with the release of the inspector general’s report on the improper review of applications by Tea Party-related groups for tax-exempt “social welfare” status. The report blamed “inadequate management” for the review process, which began under Bush-appointed leadership, and it reads like everyone’s worst nightmare of incompetent government. But it finds no evidence that anyone higher than middle management was responsible for the review. Moreover, although it’s clear that groups with Tea Party or Patriot in their names came in for more scrutiny and delay than most liberal groups, more than two-thirds of the groups flagged for review had nothing to do with the Tea Party. And none of the conservatives were denied tax-exempt status, though many faced long delays. Ironically, the only group that saw its status denied (for 10 of its chapters) was Emerge America, which works to elect Democratic women to office..."

http://www.salon.com/2013/05/15/two_scandals_...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52515 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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The communist is in the Whitehouse
Thats kind of amusing considering Obama is governing from the center-right. He is not even a liberal. Let alone a socialist. Or a communist.

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#52516 May 15, 2013
Yawn. Tired. Bored.

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#52517 May 15, 2013
Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability. LOL.

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#52518 May 15, 2013
Ok, then.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52519 May 15, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability. LOL.
But when I shake someones hand I dont tremble for 5 hours afterwords
Voluntarist

United States

#52520 May 15, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You are redefining the what the system is. To us Americans the system includes the court of laws.
You have more in common with Timothy McVeigh than any of us real American patriots.
I am not redefining anything, the constiution not me, not the court not up for interpreting.

To demonstrate the merits of this argument,
an examination of the evidence uncovered by
Bill is essential. The federal government
claims that the State of Kentucky was the
second state to ratify the amendment, such
action taking place on February 8, 1910. But,
the records of the State of Kentucky reveal a
far different picture. These records show that
the Kentucky House proposed a resolution to
adopt the amendment and then sent that
resolution to the Senate in early February
1910. On February 8, 1910, the Kentucky
Senate voted upon that resolution, but
rejected it by a vote of 9 in favor and 22
opposed. The Kentucky Senate never did ratify
that amendment, but federal officials, being in
possession of documents showing this
rejection, fraudulently claimed otherwise.
Voluntarist

United States

#52521 May 15, 2013
A second interesting situation involves the
State of Oklahoma. Here, this proposed
amendment was passed by the Oklahoma
House and the language of the resolution
perfectly matched the one passed by
Congress. However, the Oklahoma Senate
obviously disliked what Congress had
proposed, so it amended the language of the
16th Amendment in such a fashion as to have
a precisely opposite meaning. After all was
settled and done in Oklahoma, the Oklahoma
Legislature wanted an amendment which
meant something entirely different than that
which was proposed by Congress.
What happened in California reveals a comedy
of errors. That legislative assembly never
recorded any vote upon any proposal to adopt
the amendment proposed by Congress.
However, assuming that a nonexistent vote
was taken, whatever California did adopt bore
no resemblance to what Congress had
proposed. And many states engaged in the
unauthorized activity of amending the
language of the amendment proposed by
congress, a power that these states

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#52522 May 15, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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But when I shake someones hand I dont tremble for 5 hours afterwords.
That's because you're as insensitive and dense as a rock LOL.
Voluntarist

United States

#52523 May 15, 2013
Article V of the U.S. Constitution controls the
amending process, which requires that three-
fourths of the States ratify any amendment
proposed by Congress. In 1913, there were 48
States in the American Union, so to adopt any
amendment required the affirmative act of 36
states. In February 1913, Knox issued a
proclamation claiming that 38 states had
ratified the amendment, including Kentucky,
California and Oklahoma. But, as previously
shown, Kentucky had rejected the amendment,
California had not voted on it and Oklahoma
wanted something entirely different. If just
these 3 states are excluded from the court of
those which ratified, then the amendment was
not legally adopted, the number of ratifying
States being only 35. But, then again, a total
of 11 states failed to vote on the amendment,
33 changed the language of the amendment
and Minnesota sent in nothing. If the process
of the adoption of the amendment is subjected
to strict legal scrutiny the amendment was
adopted by none.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52524 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not redefining anything, the constiution not me, not the court not up for interpreting.
To demonstrate the merits of this argument,
an examination of the evidence uncovered by
Bill is essential. The federal government
claims that the State of Kentucky was the
second state to ratify the amendment, such
action taking place on February 8, 1910. But,
the records of the State of Kentucky reveal a
far different picture. These records show that
the Kentucky House proposed a resolution to
adopt the amendment and then sent that
resolution to the Senate in early February
1910. On February 8, 1910, the Kentucky
Senate voted upon that resolution, but
rejected it by a vote of 9 in favor and 22
opposed. The Kentucky Senate never did ratify
that amendment, but federal officials, being in
possession of documents showing this
rejection, fraudulently claimed otherwise.
Dont make us post the mantra again

move on...

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#52525 May 15, 2013
I wonder how Papa can continue discussing the silliest of topics for hours with brainless, stupid and uncultured posters like Voluntarist and Former Res. They shamelessly keep discussing the most inane topics. I hope Papa leaves these human dregs and moves to greener pastures where the standards are much higher. I rate Papa far higher in terms of intelligence and poise than those 2 fools - Voluntarist and Former Res. Hugh is a poster who keeps us entertained and cannot be taken seriously as he seriously lacks intelligence and class.

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#52526 May 15, 2013
ON HUGH:

What really surprises me about HUGH is his constant sexual talk and fervent desire to see me lose my virginity by getting a female to sit on my face followed by intercourse et al.

His pet agenda is fanatical Christian propaganda but for a man of religion he's surprisingly obsessed with perverse sexual acts and can't hold himself from making constant references to sex.

Hugh exhibits not the least common sense nor decency.

His manner of sexual talk gives me the creeps and makes me cringe since they're explicit in a very abnormal way.

He comes across as a sexual pervert.

His vibes reek of sexual perversion.

Once, I could not hold myself from gagging after being assaulted by his vibes whose stench was so bad - the typical smell of a man who's heavily into sexual perversions.

It's evident he's deep into abnormal sexual acts with a string of partners mainly young guys.

I can only imagine what he'll do to me - since I'm physically very attractive - if he ever manages to corner me when I'm in a defenseless state.

Hugh covers his perversity with layers of artificial polite manners and sweet talk about God. Shame.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52527 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Case law states that the 16th amendment gave congress no new taxing authority.
So again, you're only good with case law when you agree with it.

Case laws says the income tax is ok.

What say you now?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52528 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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You either agree with the system or not if you are going to enforce law you have to do so fully.
The 16th amendment was not properly ratified, as per the US constitution, that is not up for interpreting.
Above you wrote: "You either agree with the system or not..."

The Supreme Court said the 16th was ratified and that is now the law of the land.

Get with the program.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52529 May 15, 2013
Story of a loser - William Benson:

Benson appealed that decision, and the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit also ruled against Benson. The Court of Appeals stated:

Benson knew or had reason to know that his statements were false or fraudulent. 26 U.S.C.[section] 6700(a)(2)(A). Benson's claim to have discovered that the Sixteenth Amendment was not ratified has been rejected by this Court in Benson's own criminal appeal.... Benson knows that his claim that he can rely on his book to prevent federal prosecution is equally false because his attempt to rely on his book in his own criminal case was ineffective.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_Si...
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52530 May 15, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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That's not answering the question.
Is it subsidized
are the prices fixed?
How is it funded?
Payroll taxes paid by most employees, employers, and people who are self-employed
Other sources, like income taxes paid on Social Security benefits, interest earned on the trust fund investments, and Medicare Part A premiums from people who aren't eligible for premium-free Part A

http://www.medicare.gov/about-us/how-medicare...

Are you asking about payments to providers?

All insurance providers cap these payments.

So the answer is yes.

You would rather provide blank checks?
Voluntarist

United States

#52531 May 15, 2013
First, the judiciary. Ah, the judiciary. The
inferior Federal courts, I'm not saying that
to be derogatory, that's the constitutional
term, right? The inferior courts ... say that
the invalidity of the "16th Amendment"
raises a "political question" which is not
justiciable, but belongs exclusively to
Congress. Well, that's rather a highly
questionable, you know, or even question-
begging conclusion. As many as you
probably know, the term "political
question", or even any words or phrases
that intimate that kind of a doctrine, do not
appear in the Constitution. The doctrine of
political questions is another of those rather
imaginative patterns that the courts have
cut from whole cloth in order to avoid
being confronted with issues that they
would rather not hear.

http://www.constitution.org/col/vieiraspeech....
Voluntarist

United States

#52532 May 15, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
So again, you're only good with case law when you agree with it.
Case laws says the income tax is ok.
What say you now?
No what I am saying is that if you want to use case law the very first case determined that the 16th amendment gave congress no new taxing power.
Voluntarist

United States

#52533 May 15, 2013
former res wrote:
Story of a loser - William Benson:
Benson appealed that decision, and the United States Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit also ruled against Benson. The Court of Appeals stated:
Benson knew or had reason to know that his statements were false or fraudulent. 26 U.S.C.[section] 6700(a)(2)(A). Benson's claim to have discovered that the Sixteenth Amendment was not ratified has been rejected by this Court in Benson's own criminal appeal.... Benson knows that his claim that he can rely on his book to prevent federal prosecution is equally false because his attempt to rely on his book in his own criminal case was ineffective.[21]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_Si...
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