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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#52306 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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There are audio admissions that the irs agents do not care about evidence.
rabbee: yes they do circumvent, all your rights of a court trial. it's called, a dictatorship.

they and the cia were the only alleged as legalized, dictatorship in america untill homeland security. but the cia, got caught a while back. and are not supposed to operate, in america.

so now they the cia use their outside influences, to accomplish as much as possible.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52307 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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A long time ago I had a friend who worked as the chief acccount / budget officer for a large city. He told me they (the City) always knew who the democrats vs the republicans were, from who checked the voluntary donation box on their tax return. In a democratic presidential year, a democrat was more likely to make the donation to fund the political party system than a republican, and vice versa. I dont know how they got access to ones tax return, but it was an interesting comment....
Very interesting.

I bet dems are more likely to be organ donors too (on the driver's licenses).

Generally better people!

:))

(Though technically I'm an independent.)
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52308 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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how would you know - you claim you dont pay taxes
Why are you flirting back and forth with screen names?
What are you talking abour you clearly admitted that its pay or go to jail, they need no evidence
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52309 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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Very interesting.
I bet dems are more likely to be organ donors too (on the driver's licenses).
Generally better people!
:))
(Though technically I'm an independent.)
Anyone who believes in forcefully taking private property is not a good person.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#52310 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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There are audio admissions that the irs agents do not care about evidence.
So you extrapolate from the individual level to the group level to place blame?

WAIT!

Dont I remember something recently from you admonishing people who did that?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52311 May 13, 2013
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: trying to avoid, being profiled? with one screen name, wearing sun-glasses and a mustache.
chuckle

reminds me of Colonel Flag, once again (Mash)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#52312 May 13, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---"movement " suggests to me(Frijoles) EVASION
HughBe--- Thank you for your forthright opinion.
It explains, to me, the existence of the various MOVEMENTS in Judaism e.g. " All of the Orthodox MOVEMENTS are very similar in their observance and beliefs, differing only in the details that are emphasized. "
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/J ...
FRijoles---You remind me of a little kid who has to tantrum to make his presence known
HughBe--- Nothing has changed, I accept your words i.e. "movement suggests to me(Frijoles) EVASION".
All I have done is to make the observation that Judaism has various MOVEMENTS.
Tilt that windmill!

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#52313 May 13, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tilting_at_windm...

Tilting at windmills is an English idiom which means attacking imaginary enemies. The word “tilt”, in this context, comes from jousting.

The phrase is sometimes used to describe confrontations where adversaries are incorrectly perceived, or to courses of action that are based on misinterpreted or misapplied heroic, romantic, or idealistic justifications.

The phrase derives from an episode in the novel Don Quixote by Miguel de Cervantes. In the novel, Don Quixote fights windmills that he imagines to be giants. Quixote sees the windmill blades as the giant's arms, for instance. A relevant portion of the novel states:

Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, "Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless."

"What giants?" asked Sancho Panza.

"Those you see over there," replied his master, "with their long arms. Some of them have arms well nigh two leagues in length."

"Take care, sir," cried Sancho. "Those over there are not giants but windmills. Those things that seem to be their arms are sails which, when they are whirled around by the wind, turn the millstone."

—Part 1, Chapter VIII. Of the valourous Don Quixote's success in the dreadful and never before imagined Adventure of the Windmills, with other events worthy of happy record.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52314 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Anyone who believes in forcefully taking private property is not a good person.
Are you referring to taxation?
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52315 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So you extrapolate from the individual level to the group level to place blame?
WAIT!
Dont I remember something recently from you admonishing people who did that?
admissions is plural my friend
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52316 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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Are you referring to taxation?
Anytime someone uses force to extract property that is not theirs is wrong, dont you agree?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52317 May 13, 2013
In response, Congress proposed the Sixteenth Amendment (ratified by the requisite number of states in 1913),[40] which states:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#52318 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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chuckle
reminds me of Colonel Flag, once again (Mash)
rabbee: or like klinger, trying to not be recognized by the us army, either in the nude or with a dress on.

but in the army i did learn from another, you don't try to get out. by not being recognized in the army. by putting a bullet in your foot, with an m60 machine gun. without considering, your finger might just freeze from pain at the first round.

walking point who in the hell, can be afraid of an enemy. with all that, freindly fire behind you.

don't believe them, when they say they always let the point man go by. before they, pop an ambush.

or what happens when you spot the ambush, and then have both sides shooting at you. and artillery or napalm, does not read unit insignias first before detonation.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52319 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Anytime someone uses force to extract property that is not theirs is wrong, dont you agree?
Do you not believe in our Constitution?

See the 16th Amendment please.
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52320 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
In response, Congress proposed the Sixteenth Amendment (ratified by the requisite number of states in 1913),[40] which states:
The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.
Thanks for posting congressional authority over the federal government.
Still asking for the FACTS that the constitution and code are applicable, try doing it without invoking the gun.
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52321 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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Do you not believe in our Constitution?
See the 16th Amendment please.
Not without any facts that it is applicable to me, as much as you believe in religion.

And if it only requires me to believe, i would say not.

Im asking for the facts and you are telling me about some retarded law from almost 100 years ago.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52322 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Not without any facts that it is applicable to me, as much as you believe in religion.
And if it only requires me to believe, i would say not.
Im asking for the facts and you are telling me about some retarded law from almost 100 years ago.
The members of Congress were elected by the people.

In effect didn't "the people" vote for the 16 Amendment?

Don't the people have a right to vote to tax themselves?

They have chosen this path to fund the government.
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52323 May 13, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
To: ATF
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observati...
400 PPM: Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere Reaches Prehistoric Levels
Scientific American
That data was wrong.
Abolish The Fed

United States

#52324 May 13, 2013
former res wrote:
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The members of Congress were elected by the people.
In effect didn't "the people" vote for the 16 Amendment?
Don't the people have a right to vote to tax themselves?
They have chosen this path to fund the government.
Do people have a right to forcefully take others property?

Can armed robbery be voted on?

I didnt vote them in.

Still no facts? or are you claiming that those are facts?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#52325 May 13, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Thanks for posting congressional authority over the federal government.
What's going on now - Benghazi, the IRS/Tea Party thing - would suggest the Executive Branch is in control. The Citizens United decision and the election of Bush 43 would suggest the Supreme Court is in control.

Perhaps it is more as the framers intended:

"One of the theoretical pillars of the United States Constitution is the idea of "checks and balances" among the powers and responsibilities of the three branches of American government: the executive, the legislative and the judiciary."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_governme...
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Still asking for the FACTS that the constitution and code are applicable, try doing it without invoking the gun.
Not sure what you mean.

Perhaps you should ask a constitutional law professor.

I hear there's one in The Oval Office.

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