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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52112 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I reversed myself. I got curious as to what point you were trying to promote. So I decided to indulge you. And instead of you answering, this is what we get. More nonsense.
The post speaks for itself.

HughBer---You are in need of forgiveness and pity.
Recall, you said you were moving on and then almost immediately you seek to reengage the matter.

Frijoles---Yes, I reversed myself.

I got curious as to what point you were trying to promote. So I decided to indulge you. And instead of you answering, this is what we get. More nonsense.

HughBe--- Try PITY and forgiveness as you are not responsible for the things that you write.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52114 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
scroll back - I never limited the concept of aid to operating costs - in fact I actually stated it included charity to the congregants.
Reading comprehension seems to be an issue these days with you. what gives?
Frijoles---scroll back - I never limited the concept of aid to operating costs - in fact I actually stated it included charity to the congregants

HughBe--- Dear Anus at what point did you bring in congregants? It was NOT at the start. It was introduced as a means of JUSTIFYING your FOOLISHNESS.

Below is your FIRST post. Tell me the points that you made in it.

Quote the congregants part.

List the items that you mentioned in YOUR first post below # 51981 page 2334

Frijoles---"Dont pretend you are holier than sht. Houses of worships are often much more than just hovels that provide prayer space.

Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure MAINTENANCE COSTS, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low. Plus your churches probably DONT have social service components. heck you probably RECEIVE aid. Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising REVENUE to KEEP your organizations like we do in the states."
JOEL

Thane, India

#52116 May 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>

Contrary to what you may FEEL I do WORK very hard and that is a FACT.
I doubt it.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52117 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
tangent - go back and read ALL the posts
You do this often. You nit pick and ignore the gist of the conversation. Besides from being annoying, it is not honest.
What would Jesus say?
HughBe---Please answer this, What is your PRIVATE definition of MAINTENANCE?

Frijoles---TANGENT - go back and read ALL the posts

HughBe--- It is only a TANGENT to all of your introduced sideshows but NOT to the original point in your FIRST post below.

Frijoles, FIRST post---"Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure MAINTENANCE COSTS, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low. Plus your churches probably DONT have social service components. heck you probably RECEIVE aid. Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising REVENUE to KEEP your organizations like we do in the states."
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52118 May 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt it.
I don't care, I have stated the FACT. I work very hard.

Work is not ONLY with your hands dear Joel. There is something called BRAIN.

I work with BOTH hand and BRAIN.
Voluntarist

United States

#52120 May 9, 2013
Israel Rescues Al-Qaeda
Terrorists From Syria
Fighters being treated in field hospitals and
sent back to front lines
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 9, 2013
Israel is sending military vehicles into Syria
to pick up wounded Al-Qaeda terrorists
involved in the fight against the Syrian
Army before patching them up and sending
them back into battle, another startling
example of how the Zionist state is working
with its supposedly sworn enemies to topple
President Bashar Al-Assad.
That’s a not a claim being made by
Iranian or Syrian state media, it’s
calmly admitted in a report by the
staunchly pro-Israel DebkaFile.
“Israel has set up a large field
hospital near the Tel Hazakah
observation and military post on
Golan which overlooks southern
Syria and northern Jordan. There,
incoming Syrian war wounded are
vetted and examined by Israeli
army medics who decide whether
to patch them up and send them
back, or judge them badly hurt
enough for hospital care. The
seriously hurt are moved to one of
the the nearest Israeli hospitals in
Safed or Haifa,” states the report.
The report notes that the wounded fighters
are probably being rescued by unmarked
“Israeli army vehicles” that are “entering
Syria to pick up injured rebels.”
In addition to the latest information, an AFP
report from March also documented how
the IDF had set up a “military field
hospital” at army outpost 105 in the Golan
Heights in order to rescue and treat FSA
fighters.
By treating and rehabilitating wounded FSA
militants and Al-Qaeda terrorists, Israel is
aiding the very same rebels who
have burned Israeli flags in public and
vowed to crush the Zionist regime once they
are finished toppling Bashar Al-Assad.
Multiple reports now confirm that the
primary frontline militants in Syria fighting
against Assad’s forces are members of the
Al-Qaeda group Jabhat al-Nusra
which “killed numerous American troops in
Iraq,” and is now leading western-backed
rebel forces in Syria. After the organization
was declared a terrorist group by the US
State Department, 29 different US-backed
Syrian opposition groups pledged their
allegiance to al-Nusra.

http://www.infowars.com/israel-rescues-al-qae...
JOEL

Thane, India

#52121 May 9, 2013
Hugh and his family are financially supported by his cruffy church. All the poor cruffs who comprise the congregation are fleeced off their hard-earned money to support dear Hugh whose only duty, aside from administering to his flock on Sunday, is to push forward the charismatic agenda online. This is poor Hugh's source of income.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#52122 May 9, 2013
Hugh is a pastor with the charismatic movement.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52123 May 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe---Please answer this, What is your PRIVATE definition of MAINTENANCE?
Frijoles---TANGENT - go back and read ALL the posts
HughBe--- It is only a TANGENT to all of your introduced sideshows but NOT to the original point in your FIRST post below.
Frijoles, FIRST post---"Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure MAINTENANCE COSTS, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low. Plus your churches probably DONT have social service components. heck you probably RECEIVE aid. Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising REVENUE to KEEP your organizations like we do in the states."
I qualified the point in the second post, so NOW it is a tangent.

Why are you such a puss?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52124 May 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---scroll back - I never limited the concept of aid to operating costs - in fact I actually stated it included charity to the congregants
HughBe--- Dear Anus at what point did you bring in congregants? It was NOT at the start. It was introduced as a means of JUSTIFYING your FOOLISHNESS.
Below is your FIRST post. Tell me the points that you made in it.
Quote the congregants part.
List the items that you mentioned in YOUR first post below # 51981 page 2334
Frijoles---"Dont pretend you are holier than sht. Houses of worships are often much more than just hovels that provide prayer space.
Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure MAINTENANCE COSTS, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low. Plus your churches probably DONT have social service components. heck you probably RECEIVE aid. Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising REVENUE to KEEP your organizations like we do in the states."
baby step progress - now you acknowledge I had a second post

now why would I post a second time - could it to be to QUALIFY my first post?

Now WHY would I debate a point that I qualified a few post later? That would be a waste of time.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52125 May 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Hugh is a pastor with the charismatic movement.
Dont give him that much credit. He is the leader of a religion of one.

My guess is that no one can stand him at the churches he does attend. At some level his personality here HAS to translate into real life. And it is not pretty.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52126 May 9, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Israel Rescues Al-Qaeda
Terrorists From Syria
Fighters being treated in field hospitals and
sent back to front lines
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
May 9, 2013
Israel is sending military vehicles into Syria
to pick up wounded Al-Qaeda terrorists
involved in the fight against the Syrian
Army before patching them up and sending
them back into battle, another startling
example of how the Zionist state is working
with its supposedly sworn enemies to topple
President Bashar Al-Assad.
That’s a not a claim being made by
Iranian or Syrian state media, it’s
calmly admitted in a report by the
staunchly pro-Israel DebkaFile.
“Israel has set up a large field
hospital near the Tel Hazakah
observation and military post on
Golan which overlooks southern
Syria and northern Jordan. There,
incoming Syrian war wounded are
vetted and examined by Israeli
army medics who decide whether
to patch them up and send them
back, or judge them badly hurt
enough for hospital care. The
seriously hurt are moved to one of
the the nearest Israeli hospitals in
Safed or Haifa,” states the report.
The report notes that the wounded fighters
are probably being rescued by unmarked
“Israeli army vehicles” that are “entering
Syria to pick up injured rebels.”
In addition to the latest information, an AFP
report from March also documented how
the IDF had set up a “military field
hospital” at army outpost 105 in the Golan
Heights in order to rescue and treat FSA
fighters.
By treating and rehabilitating wounded FSA
militants and Al-Qaeda terrorists, Israel is
aiding the very same rebels who
have burned Israeli flags in public and
vowed to crush the Zionist regime once they
are finished toppling Bashar Al-Assad.
Multiple reports now confirm that the
primary frontline militants in Syria fighting
against Assad’s forces are members of the
Al-Qaeda group Jabhat al-Nusra
which “killed numerous American troops in
Iraq,” and is now leading western-backed
rebel forces in Syria. After the organization
was declared a terrorist group by the US
State Department, 29 different US-backed
Syrian opposition groups pledged their
allegiance to al-Nusra.
http://www.infowars.com/israel-rescues-al-qae...
I know, ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!!!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#52127 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Dont give him that much credit. He is the leader of a religion of one.

With all due respects to your opinion, I would say that Hugh is a promotion-cum-preaching kind of person for a breakaway/new age christian sect like the charismatics. He does not hold a regular job in an organization and before turning into a radical christian his job was most probably in sales or marketing. His English language skills - vocab, grammar, turn of phrases - ideas and logic reveal he's typical middle class and of below average intelligence. He's online most of the time lurking in the background.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#52128 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

My guess is that no one can stand him at the churches he does attend.

At some level his personality here HAS to translate into real life. And it is not pretty.
No, no, Papa.

It's a case of birds of a feather flock together.

He can easily deceive gullible, poorly educated, depressed, penurious and fanatical people with his persuasively sweet talk and superficial concern about their well-being.

He's into the sordid business of harvesting "lost souls" for that fool, Jesus.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#52129 May 9, 2013
typo - persuasive not persuasively
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52130 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
I qualified the point in the second post, so NOW it is a tangent.
Why are you such a puss?
You are a stray.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52131 May 9, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
baby step progress - now you acknowledge I had a second post
now why would I post a second time - could it to be to QUALIFY my first post?
Now WHY would I debate a point that I qualified a few post later? That would be a waste of time.
Stop the self-deception. Your sideshows are not the focal points.

You are just a self-deceiving creature.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#52132 May 9, 2013

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#52133 May 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop the self-deception. Your sideshows are not the focal points.
You are just a self-deceiving creature.
Deception? AM I the one who keeps IGNORING the subsequent posts?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#52134 May 9, 2013
Why do people believe in God when the evidence indicates that only consciousness, energy and matter that form a unified field are real?

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