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former res

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Former---Again, why do you go to church?
HughBe--- Pay close attention, I go because I am NOT "special" as you no doubt are.
You don't seem to want to tell me why you go to church or believe the way you believe.

Is it a religion you were born into or did you evaluate your beliefs and choose it on your own?

Did someone introduce you to the faith?

Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian?

Why or why not?
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Former---What is the name of your religion?
HughBe--- Some call it Christianity
Who only some?

Do you believe in Christ the Lord, son of God?

That he died for our sins?

The trilogy?
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Former---Do you tithe? How much $?
HughBe--- No and obviously NO for the second question.
You do not offer any sort of financial support for the church to which you belong?

I had understood that you were somewhat affluent (by local standards).

Your church has no financial needs or obligations?
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Why do you ask? Do you want to know how much to tithe?
What is tithing?
Who should collect tithes?
Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
I'm a nontheist who was raised Catholic. Probably not the best person to address these issue for you.
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#51993
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Same difference as between "signs and symptoms."
Wrong.

Expected.

Try again using the little intelligence that you have.
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Look it up.
Looking up what others have said on the subject is infantile and is certainly not the last word on any subject for the matter.

I may look up but usually I add more to what's been said on a subject and at times I bring in a totally new outlook/reasoning.

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#51995
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Next thing you'll be asking me...

"what if a church wants to arrest you?"
What if I say that your mental growth has been arrested by distorted heredity and serious personality defects? LOL.

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#51996
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What if I say that your mental growth has been arrested by distorted heredity and serious personality defects? LOL.
I would say that you are a delusional crank

(sorry, you asked)

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I dont care who you reject you are always speaking collectively , mr collectivist.
WE probably asked you this before, so pardon US if WE did, but did your mother breast feed or bottle feed you when you were young?

(WE dont care so much about your habits now)
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I would say that you are a delusional crank

(sorry, you asked)
Ok, Papa.
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#51999
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former res wrote:
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You don't seem to want to tell me why you go to church or believe the way you believe.
Is it a religion you were born into or did you evaluate your beliefs and choose it on your own?
Did someone introduce you to the faith?
Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian?
Why or why not?
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Who only some?
Do you believe in Christ the Lord, son of God?
That he died for our sins?
The trilogy?
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You do not offer any sort of financial support for the church to which you belong?
I had understood that you were somewhat affluent (by local standards).
Your church has no financial needs or obligations?
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I'm a nontheist who was raised Catholic. Probably not the best person to address these issue for you.
HughBe--- Pay close attention, I go because I am NOT "special" as you no doubt are.

Former---You don't seem to want to tell me why you go to church or believe the way you believe.

HughBe--- I have repeatedly TOLD YOU but you are not understanding it. I am using "special" in precisely the same way that YOU used it. Now if you understand your meaning then you should no difficulty in understanding my ANSWER.

Hint: try substitution

The other part about "believe the way you believe" is NEW. What exactly are you talking about, is it tithing?

Former---Is it a religion you were born into or did you evaluate your beliefs and choose it on your own?

HughBe--- My parents were Christians and I am called a Christian.

Former---Did someone introduce you to the faith?

HughBe--- YES, my parents. Who introduced you to atheism?

Former---Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian?

HughBe--- An EXCEPTIONAL person but not a good Christian. Note, exceptional is being used in the EXACT way that you are using GOOD.

Former---Why or why not?

HughBe--- no man is good in the eyes of God or God's standard.

Former---What is the name of your religion?

HughBe--- Some call it Christianity

Former--Who only some?

HughBe--- What is the number or percentage that you get from my some?

Former---Do you believe in Christ the Lord, son of God?

HughBe--- I believe in Jesus, the Christ, the Being who BECAME the Son of God, the CREATOR of this world and all that is in it.

Former--That he died for our sins?

HughBe--- Yes

Former--The trilogy?

HughBe--- I take it that you mean TRINITY which is NOT the same as TRILOGY. Lesson: TRILOGY is a SERIES of 3 whereas TRINITY is 3.

Former---Do you tithe? How much $?

HughBe--- No and obviously NO for the second question.

Former---You do not offer any sort of financial support for the church to which you belong?

HughBe--- Cite my words that confused you and led you to such a unfounded question.

Former--Your church has no financial needs or obligations?

HughBe--- I shall give you an account for you to make your contribution . Clearly you want to do so.

Please deal with the OUTSTANDING questions. Your disclaimer that you are "a nontheist" is a poor excuse in the CONTEXT of your detailed INTERROGATION plus you were a CATHOLIC.

Did you pay TITHES as a Catholic?

If not, why not?

Answer my questions.

Why do you ask? Do you want to know how much to tithe?
What is tithing?
Who should collect tithes?
Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
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Wrong.
Expected.
Try again using the little intelligence that you have.
What's the opposite of "above me?"
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Looking up what others have said on the subject is infantile and is certainly not the last word on any subject for the matter.
I may look up but usually I add more to what's been said on a subject and at times I bring in a totally new outlook/reasoning.
Yes, well, how nice for you.
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Dont pretend you are holier than sht. Houses of worships are often much more than just hovels that provide prayer space.
Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure maintenance costs, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low. Plus your churches probably dont have social service components. heck you probably RECEIVE aid. Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising revenue to keep your organizations like we do in the states.
Frijoles---Dont pretend you are holier than sht

HughBe--- Not only am I holier than you but I am sweeter in smell.

Before I deal with the remainder of your amusing post, please identify the questions that I have asked that have GREATLY upset YOU.
My guess is that it is the last one or number 4.


1.What is tithing?
2.Who should collect tithes?
3.Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
4.Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?

Frijoles---Living in Jamaica you dont have the infrastructure maintenance costs, and plus your standard and cost of living is amazingly low.

HughBe--- List the items that you call, "infrastructure maintenance costs"

Do you think that we have service in trees?

Frijoles---Plus your churches probably dont have social service components.

HughBe--- What an IDIOTIC utterance

Frijoles--heck you probably RECEIVE aid.

HughBe---But not from YOU.

Frijoles---Therefore you probably dont have to be concerned with raising revenue to keep your organizations like we do in the states.

HughBe--- It is an indictment on your education system that someone with a PhD could be so DUNCE.
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I was under the impression that there are many variations among the Christian denominations. I was merely curious to see how you viewed some of them.
If you want to answer with a mono-response that is fine, and I suppose that does tell me something about how you view the other sects. Though not as interesting than if you had an assortment of differing opinions.
Once again--

Frijoles---Are other churches special?

HughBe---- the church itself is not special and so there cannot be "OTHER" special churches.
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What's the opposite of "above me?"
I thought above and below are relative terms, mere conventions. Redundant logic.
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HughBe--- I have repeatedly TOLD YOU but you are not understanding it. I am using "special" in precisely the same way that YOU used it. Now if you understand your meaning then you should no difficulty in understanding my ANSWER.
Hint: try substitution
I don't do riddles.
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The other part about "believe the way you believe" is NEW. What exactly are you talking about, is it tithing?
No. I refer to your religious beliefs.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Is it a religion you were born into or did you evaluate your beliefs and choose it on your own?
HughBe--- My parents were Christians and I am called a Christian.
Nice to meet you, Christian.
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Former---Did someone introduce you to the faith?
HughBe--- YES, my parents. Who introduced you to atheism?
Being introduced to atheism is like being introduced to not liking ice cream.

I was raised Catholic and turned away as a teenager.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian?
HughBe--- An EXCEPTIONAL person but not a good Christian. Note, exceptional is being used in the EXACT way that you are using GOOD.
I see. You're certainly allowed to use your own words.
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Former---What is the name of your religion?
HughBe--- Some call it Christianity
Former--Who only some?
HughBe--- What is the number or percentage that you get from my some?
Fewer than 100%. Is it a controversial movement?

Churches in this country are fairly well defined for the most part.
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Former---Do you believe in Christ the Lord, son of God?
HughBe--- I believe in Jesus, the Christ, the Being who BECAME the Son of God, the CREATOR of this world and all that is in it.
You sound like a Christian to me.
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Former--The trilogy?
HughBe--- I take it that you mean TRINITY which is NOT the same as TRILOGY. Lesson: TRILOGY is a SERIES of 3 whereas TRINITY is 3.
I misspoke. Typical atheist.
HughBe wrote:
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Former---Do you tithe? How much $?
HughBe--- No and obviously NO for the second question.
Former---You do not offer any sort of financial support for the church to which you belong?
HughBe--- Cite my words that confused you and led you to such a unfounded question.
You either contribute financially to your church or you don't/

More riddles from you?
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Please deal with the OUTSTANDING questions. Your disclaimer that you are "a nontheist" is a poor excuse in the CONTEXT of your detailed INTERROGATION plus you were a CATHOLIC.
Did you pay TITHES as a Catholic?
No. I was a child.
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Answer my questions.
Why do you ask? Do you want to know how much to tithe?
What is tithing?
Who should collect tithes?
Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
I do not belong to any church or religion.

The subject of tithing is purely academic for me.
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Yes, well, how nice for you.
Yes, trend-setters don't follow the beaten track, get it?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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In the Dutch language, the letter v is pronounced as fe and so veld, a Dutch word, would be correctly pronounced as feld.
South Africa was ruled over by the Dutch colonists until recently.
rabbee: well i have been to several Deutch Hops, but never heard that. but i do know that the w, is pronounced like a v. because of vich vay, iz the menz room? and they worship, somebody called yesus. and then looked at me, as if puzzeled when i tried to say something in german. and then said someting, i suppose a correction laughingly. hard to tell, while they were laughing.
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Yes, trend-setters don't follow the beaten track, get it?
Your personal charm and warmth come across clearly.
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JOEL wrote:
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In the Dutch language, the letter v is pronounced as fe and so veld, a Dutch word, would be correctly pronounced as feld.
South Africa was ruled over by the Dutch colonists until recently.
rabbee: update; here is some info on weld county, named after the first state treasurer lucias weld.
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I thought above and below are relative terms, mere conventions. Redundant logic.
Yes and it rhymes with "show me."

No doubt you are skilled at the procedure.
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HughBe--- I have repeatedly TOLD YOU but you are not understanding it. I am using "special" in precisely the same way that YOU used it. Now if you understand your meaning then you should no difficulty in understanding my ANSWER.
Hint: try substitution

Former---I don't do riddles.

HughBe--- It is not a riddle, the hint was given because you are NOT understanding.

HughBe --The other part about "believe the way you believe" is NEW. What exactly are you talking about, is it tithing?

Former---No. I refer to your religious beliefs.

HughBe--- list my beliefs that you referred to.

HughBe--- Who introduced you to atheism?

Former--Being introduced to atheism is like being introduced to not liking ice cream.

HughBe--- explain. Should I take it that everybody likes ice cream?

Former--I was raised Catholic and turned away as a teenager.

HughBe--- luck you. Great freedom.

Former---Do you consider yourself to be a good Christian?

Former---What is the name of your religion?

HughBe--- Some call it Christianity

Former--Who only some?

HughBe--- What is the number or percentage that you get from my some?

Former--Fewer than 100%. Is it a controversial movement?

HughBe--- good answer. I have no idea.

Former---Do you believe in Christ the Lord, son of God?

HughBe--- I believe in Jesus, the Christ, the Being who BECAME the Son of God, the CREATOR of this world and all that is in it.

Former--You sound like a Christian to me.

HughBe--- good for you.

Former--The trilogy?

HughBe--- I take it that you mean TRINITY which is NOT the same as TRILOGY. Lesson: TRILOGY is a SERIES of 3 whereas TRINITY is 3.

Former--I misspoke. Typical atheist.

HughBe--- There is no disgrace in not knowing.:D

Former---Do you tithe? How much $?

HughBe--- No and obviously NO for the second question.

Former---You do not offer any sort of financial support for the church to which you belong?

HughBe--- Cite my words that confused you and led you to such a unfounded question.

Former--You either contribute financially to your church or you don't/

HughBe--- And you consider your utterance above as QUOTING my words. YOU were asking about TITHING and not about financial contributions.

HughBe---

Why do you ask? Do you want to know how much to tithe?
What is tithing?
Who should collect tithes?
Is it rabbis or LEVITICAL priests?
Suppose tithe means a tenth, do you think that collecting a tenth and renaming it changes the fact that you are collecting money fraudulently?
I do not belong to any church or religion.

Former---The subject of tithing is purely academic for me.

HughBe--- what prompted the question on tithing?

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