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Voluntarist

United States

#51727 May 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Straw position.
That wasnt your assertion. Your assertion was that the law and the state did not exist. Will proves it does. How it does was never in dispute.
No my question was what facts do you rely on that the constitition and code are applicable.
Voluntarist

United States

#51728 May 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
IOW you concede on the issue of the practicality, and therefore the reality, of your ideas....
An hoa is an example of a voluntary government.
Voluntarist

United States

#51729 May 4, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact he had to settle anything indicates that there was a structure....
You are obsessed with the minutia - but that isnt the point. The point is - DOES the state exist or does it not? Obviously it does. And it doesnt care what you think, only that you act in accordance.
No that wasnt the question but now that you mention it, factually what is the state?
Voluntarist

United States

#51730 May 4, 2013
Report: U.S. Government and NATO
Worked with Bin Laden and His Top
Lieutenant 3 Months AFTER 9/11
Posted by WashingtonsBlog
FBI Translator Alleges that Bin Laden and His
Number 2 Worked as Part of Operation Gladio
Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds has been
deemed credible by the Department of
Justice’s Inspector General, several senators
(free subscription required), and a coalition of
prominent conservative and liberal groups.
The ACLU described Edmonds as:
The most gagged person in the history of the
United States of America.
And famed Pentagon Papers whistleblower
Daniel Ellsberg says that Edmonds possesses
information “far more explosive than the
Pentagon Papers”.
Edmonds translated terror-related
communications for the FBI right after 9/11.
In that capacity, she read communications
between terrorists and other radicals.
Edmonds said last week that Bin Laden – and
his number 2 Al Qaeda lieutenant – Ayman
al-Zawahiri – worked with the U.S.
government for 3 months after 9/11 to
coordinate destablization in the Caucus
region:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/report...
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51731 May 4, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
As long as it is consensual.
If you don't believe in democracy, what form of gov't DO you believe in?

It seems you're saying only 100% consensus is acceptable. How do you get 100% to agree on ANYTHING?

Again, what form of gov't do you propose?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51732 May 4, 2013
Democracy is veiled autocracy.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51733 May 4, 2013
Laws and the state are mental constructs enforced through physical means.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51734 May 4, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>

No that wasnt the question but now that you mention it, factually what is the state?
What is will?

A mental energy directed through the motor nerves that affects the effector muscles or organs.

You first conceive, then execute.

So, the state is not a mere abstraction, but a mental model with constitution, laws, rights, etc, that have their physical equivalents when applied or materialized through the physical instrumental parts. Even a geo-political border is first conceived in the mind and then the physical markers are laid out in precisely the same fashion as envisioned or desired by the mind.

To begin with everything is a mental construct that's later executed through the physical energy or via the physical instrumental parts when they become concrete facts.

You're a dunce.
Voluntarist

United States

#51735 May 4, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't believe in democracy, what form of gov't DO you believe in?
It seems you're saying only 100% consensus is acceptable. How do you get 100% to agree on ANYTHING?
Again, what form of gov't do you propose?
A voluntary society
Voluntarist

United States

#51736 May 4, 2013
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
What is will?
A mental energy directed through the motor nerves that affects the effector muscles or organs.
You first conceive, then execute.
So, the state is not a mere abstraction, but a mental model with constitution, laws, rights, etc, that have their physical equivalents when applied or materialized through the physical instrumental parts. Even a geo-political border is first conceived in the mind and then the physical markers are laid out in precisely the same fashion as envisioned or desired by the mind.
To begin with everything is a mental construct that's later executed through the physical energy or via the physical instrumental parts when they become concrete facts.
You're a dunce.
Thanks for your input, unfortunetely its irrelevant.

If its a mental construct then it has no standing in a court of law.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51737 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>

If its a mental construct then it has no standing in a court of law.
ROFL.

So, you've proven that you're a double dunce.

You failed to understand my post.

You've not understood an iota of the logic I provided.

I elucidated the issue under consideration in my previous post and in general it explains every facet of human activity using the mind-matter model - mind conceives, physical instrumentation executes under guidance from the mind. Without the mind there will be no materialization of ideas.

Go back, if interested, and re-read my previous post.

You've got the IQ of a moron.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51738 May 5, 2013
WHAT AILS INDIA?

1) Religion

2) Population

3) Corruption

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51739 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
An hoa is an example of a voluntary government.
HOAs are not full governments.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51740 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
No my question was what facts do you rely on that the constitition and code are applicable.
I am sorry, sir, but you seem to be the only one preoccupied with debating that issue. The rest of us have moved well past that, for the reasons we have posted time and time again.

You are living in your own private Idaho.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51741 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
An hoa is an example of a voluntary government.
What if the HOA is formed AFTER you move in but formed by a majority of the homeowners with rules that apply to all?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51742 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
A voluntary society
Anarchy.

Everybody does what they want, when they want, how they want.

You think everyone in society would do well with this sort of system?

You think every single one of us is a good, decent, hardworking person who only wants to do the right thing at all times?

And you also believe in the Easter Bunny?

Don't you think you sound a little on the silly side?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51743 May 5, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
As his popularity increases "main stream" media decreases.
Why do you assume that negative correlation?

There's never been a shortage of dummies in this society.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51744 May 5, 2013
Ideas should materialized at the earliest and in the most efficient manner, otherwise we'll remain stuck forever in the world of abstractions or turn into arm-chair philosophers. Remember, we first conceive, then execute on any scale. The mentation precedes and at times it goes hand-in-hand with the materialization of ideas.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51745 May 5, 2013
The mind-matter model applies to everything in life.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51746 May 5, 2013
Our emotional states, too, are not mere sensations or feelings. They have a cognizing mental aspect as well as physical symptoms.

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