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Voluntarist

United States

#51331 Apr 29, 2013
Female DNA Found on Bomb in Boston Attack
Evan Perez and Devlin Barrett
Wall Street Journal
April 29, 2013
Investigators have found female DNA on at least one of the bombs
used in the Boston Marathon attacks, though they haven’t
determined whose DNA it is or whether that means a woman
helped the two suspects carry out the attacks, according to U.S.
officials briefed on the probe.
The officials familiar with the case cautioned that there could be
multiple explanations for why the DNA of someone other than the
two bombing suspects—Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger
brother, Dzhokhar—could have been found on remnants of the
exploded devices. The genetic material could have come, for
example, from a store clerk who handled materials used in the
bombs or a stray hair that ended up in the bomb.
On Monday, Federal Bureau of Investigation agents were seen
leaving the Rhode Island home of the parents of Katherine Russell,
the widow of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. The elder brother died after a
shootout with police four days after the April 15 bombings.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788 ...
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51332 Apr 29, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautiful poetry.
How are you?
Did you miss me while you were off the forum?
Hello Huggybear.

Of course I missed you.

You are like a clean, fresh breath of
Blue Mountain air, mon!:))
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#51333 Apr 29, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Huggybear.
Of course I missed you.
You are like a clean, fresh breath of
Blue Mountain air, mon!:))
Former---Hello Huggybear.
Of course I missed you.
You are like a clean, fresh breath of
Blue Mountain air, mon!:))

HughBe--- Greetings my friend. I am aware that I am like a breath of fresh air like the pure air of the Blue Mountains.

I missed you too. I am sentimental.
Voluntarist

United States

#51334 Apr 29, 2013
Climate scientists come to terms with the lack of
global warming
Michael Bastasch
Daily Caller
April 28, 2013
Despite the heated rhetoric from the Obama administration and
environmental groups about the urgency of global warming,
climate scientists have begun to come to terms with the lack of
evidence of catastrophic global warming over the last decade.
“While some climate scientists continue to resist the obvious that
the climate system is more complex than they assumed, others are
starting to accept that the multi-decadal climate projections
provide very incomplete simulations has to how the real climate
system works,” Roger Pielke, Jr., environmental studies professor
at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the
University of Colorado at Boulder, told The Daily Caller News
Foundation.
Establishment media outlets have been reporting about the
unexpected stabilizing global surface temperatures over at least
the last decade, and even former NASA scientist and
environmental activist James Hansen has recognized the decade-
long lull.
This has frustrated some environmentalists who recently sent a
letter to major news networks urging them to have more coverage
on global warming, and to stop portraying the issue as a “two-
sided debate” by featuring global warming skeptics.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/26/climate-sci...
Voluntarist

United States

#51335 Apr 29, 2013
THE HOCKEY SCHTICK
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Saturday, April 27, 2013
MS at 11:38 AM
New paper demonstrates temperature drives CO2
levels, not man-made CO2
Affiliations Contributions Corresponding authors
A recent paper published in Nature Climate Change finds a disconnect
between man-made CO2 and atmospheric levels of CO2,
demonstrating that despite a sharp 25% increase in man-made CO2
emissions since 2003, the growth rate in atmospheric CO2 has slowed
sharply since 2002/2003. The data shows that while the growth rate
of man-made emissions was relatively stable from 1990-2003, the
growth rate of atmospheric CO2 surged up to the record El Nino of
1997-1998. Conversely, growth in man-made emissions surged ~25%
from 2003-2011, but the change in the growth rate of atmospheric
CO2 has flatlined since 1999 along with global temperatures. The
data demonstrates temperature drives CO2 levels due to ocean
outgassing, man-made CO2 does not drive temperature, and that man
is not the primary cause of the rise in CO2 levels.
From the prior post: Single graph demonstrates man-made CO2 is
not the driver of global warming
Roger J. Francey, Cathy M. Trudinger, Marcel van der Schoot, Rachel
M. Law , Paul B. Krummel, Ray L. Langenfelds , L. Paul Steele, Colin E.
Allison, Ann R. Stavert, Robert J. Andres & Christian Rödenbeck
Nature Climate Change 3, 520–524 (2013) doi:10.1038/
nclimate1817
Man-made CO2 emissions shown in black, growth rate of
atmospheric CO2 shown in blue
Plot for yourself here a single graph that simultaneously
demonstrates the clear observational evidence that
temperature drives CO2
CO2 does not drive temperature
man is not the primary cause of the rise in CO2 levels
The effect follows the cause; the cause does not follow the effect.
Short-term global temperature changes precede CO2 levels by about
1 year as shown by observations, and by 800+ years in ice core
data.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51336 Apr 29, 2013
Hugh, the grand chhakka (eunuch) from voodoo-land, Jamaica, is online. LOL.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51339 Apr 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---One cannot in my mind say that he is held to standards of a by-gone era if it's a belief system he subscribes to in the here and now.
Frijoles--I disagree. Religion is a subculture and as so has its own rules and standards, and internal logic which is based upon that.
HughBe--- I agree with Former about the here and now and bygone.
What is RELIGION a subculture of, Frijoles?
Frijoles---Even in the modern era there are more than one systems of standards. Scientific definition of evidence is very different from the legal definition.
HughBe--- Is MURDER a standard of bygone days?
Frijoles---Just like legal evidentiary standards and definitions of what is evidence are different from scientific standards and definitions of evidence, some organized religions can define on their own what is considered evidence and what is not, and what the standards for evaluating are.
HughBe--- Define religious EVIDENCE, Frijoles.
Frijoles---The problem is when they apply their standards to your world, and vice versa. That is what you are getting at. You dont buy their definition, and they shouldnt assume that you should. But among themselves, they have an internal logic.
HughBe--- Share their INTERNAL logic.
nope

If you want to join our big boy conversation, suggest a view

pointless psuedo-socratic questions will be ignored

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51340 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Religion is based on faith as it can be based on nothing else. Feelings etc mean faith. "I know god is in my life because I FEEL it is so." You may call this evidence but it is in fact faith. "Internal logic" etc is simply code for faith. It can be nothing else.
Saying otherwise (even repeatedly) does not make it so.
<quoted text>
Sorry, as usual I didnt make the rules

"Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion. This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51341 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
This sounds so harsh and I am so lovable in real life.
Never said that you werent. Chuckle.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51342 Apr 30, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Climate scientists come to terms with the lack of
global warming
Michael Bastasch
Daily Caller
April 28, 2013
Despite the heated rhetoric from the Obama administration and
environmental groups about the urgency of global warming,
climate scientists have begun to come to terms with the lack of
evidence of catastrophic global warming over the last decade.
“While some climate scientists continue to resist the obvious that
the climate system is more complex than they assumed, others are
starting to accept that the multi-decadal climate projections
provide very incomplete simulations has to how the real climate
system works,” Roger Pielke, Jr., environmental studies professor
at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the
University of Colorado at Boulder, told The Daily Caller News
Foundation.
Establishment media outlets have been reporting about the
unexpected stabilizing global surface temperatures over at least
the last decade, and even former NASA scientist and
environmental activist James Hansen has recognized the decade-
long lull.
This has frustrated some environmentalists who recently sent a
letter to major news networks urging them to have more coverage
on global warming, and to stop portraying the issue as a “two-
sided debate” by featuring global warming skeptics.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/26/climate-sci...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller

The Daily Caller is a news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States, with a focus on original reporting, in-depth investigations, commentary and breaking news.

Founded by libertarian conservative political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney, The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010.

....Although the site states it is neutral in regard to ideology,[citation needed] some observers have commented that it is influenced by the libertarian views of its founders.

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Dick Cheney? lol
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#51343 Apr 30, 2013
FORMER RES is "lovable" since he's got the intelligence of a 3 year old and also because he laughs a lot at the silliest of things. He can't be taken seriously and his opinions count for nothing. Anyway, he's nice to have around when one needs to laugh at someone silly. His online friends are like him - birds of a feather flock together! ROFL.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51344 Apr 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Former---Hello Huggybear.
Of course I missed you.
You are like a clean, fresh breath of
Blue Mountain air, mon!:))
HughBe--- Greetings my friend. I am aware that I am like a breath of fresh air like the pure air of the Blue Mountains.
I missed you too. I am sentimental.
Speaking of the Blue Mountains, we brought some Blue
Mountain coffee home with us when we visited your
island nation several years ago.

The coffee was very tasty, dark and strong - much the way I
imagine you to be.

:))
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51345 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, as usual I didnt make the rules
"Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion. This support may be strong or weak. The strongest type of evidence is that which provides direct proof of the truth of an assertion..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence
Even though polls say close to 90% of Americans support background checks for gun purchases, I FEEL deep inside me that most Americans really don't support background checks. This is true because it is how I feel.

The evidence to support this notion are my feelings and that is also my internal logic.

Sorry. I don't make the rules.

And don't call this truthiness. And don't hold me to your standards of evidence either.

Ok?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51346 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
FORMER RES is "lovable" since he's got the intelligence of a 3 year old and also because he laughs a lot at the silliest of things. He can't be taken seriously and his opinions count for nothing. Anyway, he's nice to have around when one needs to laugh at someone silly. His online friends are like him - birds of a feather flock together! ROFL.
How are the gang rapes going over there?
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51347 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Daily_Caller
The Daily Caller is a news and opinion website based in Washington, D.C., United States, with a focus on original reporting, in-depth investigations, commentary and breaking news.
Founded by libertarian conservative political pundit Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel, former adviser to former Vice President Dick Cheney, The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010.
....Although the site states it is neutral in regard to ideology,[citation needed] some observers have commented that it is influenced by the libertarian views of its founders.
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Dick Cheney? lol
I always say, scratch the surface of a libertarian, and you find a conservative republican who doesn't want to pay his taxes.

Event though this is a religious forum, ATF won't say whether or not he is an atheist.

Of course that's his right, but I find it a little curious.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51348 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Even though polls say close to 90% of Americans support background checks for gun purchases, I FEEL deep inside me that most Americans really don't support background checks. This is true because it is how I feel.
The evidence to support this notion are my feelings and that is also my internal logic.
Sorry. I don't make the rules.
And don't call this truthiness. And don't hold me to your standards of evidence either.
Ok?
Your evidence is weak.

See?

Thats all one has to say.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51349 Apr 30, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
I always say, scratch the surface of a libertarian, and you find a conservative republican who doesn't want to pay his taxes.
Event though this is a religious forum, ATF won't say whether or not he is an atheist.
Of course that's his right, but I find it a little curious.
\
He did say short while past that he found the atheists militaristic in their zeal (my choice of words)

Scratch the surface of the climate change denial movement and you will find Darth Vador (aka Dick Cheney), tool for the nonrenewable energy industry.(But no conspiracy here....)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51350 Apr 30, 2013
JOEL wrote:
FORMER RES is "lovable" since he's got the intelligence of a 3 year old and also because he laughs a lot at the silliest of things. He can't be taken seriously and his opinions count for nothing. Anyway, he's nice to have around when one needs to laugh at someone silly. His online friends are like him - birds of a feather flock together! ROFL.
Why are you so jolly this morning(night)?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#51351 Apr 30, 2013
Your honor, I submit this for the record....
Voluntarist wrote:
<quoted text>
You dont have to believe in religion but dont be so ignorant as to believe that you know everything.
I dont have an opinion on the matter but i find athiests aggressive anti-religion sermons to be as boring and annoying as religious zealots rhetoric.
former res

Cheshire, CT

#51352 Apr 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
He did say short while past that he found the atheists militaristic in their zeal (my choice of words)
I hate that. Bill Maher was really annoying the pisx out of me the other night with all that. He was blaming every problem in the world on religion (when we all know it's only responsible for 90% of the world's problems!:)). And he wouldn't let the other guy talk. Any group or movement (regardless of the cause) can get out of hand.

Chances are if ATF believes in conspiracy theories, he believes in god too.

:)
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Scratch the surface of the climate change denial movement and you will find Darth Vador (aka Dick Cheney), tool for the nonrenewable energy industry.(But no conspiracy here....)
It's all about the threat to their wallets.

How else can you explain the differences in the stance on climate change from that side of the isle?

I just can't accept (as much as I want to) that conservatives are inherently dumber than liberals.

More like willful ignorance. Based on economics - which is in itself wrong and short-sighted.

Note how China is kicking our axs on the green economy.

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