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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Voluntarist

United States

#50819 Apr 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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He is talking about Communism, and his gift to our country on that issue was the initiation into involvement into Vietnam.
I dont get any link with that with anything going on now. Noone except Volunteerist is claiming additional government control due to the recent bombing.
Haven't seen the article about the tsa at the train station?

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#50820 Apr 17, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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Haven't seen the article about the tsa at the train station?
Sorry I dont waste time with looney media(tm)
Voluntarist

United States

#50821 Apr 17, 2013
Navy SEALs Spotted at
Boston Marathon Wearing
Suspicious Backpacks?
Savvy Internet sleuths have found
images taken from surveillance
cameras of members of the crowd
gathered at the Boston Marathon that
appear to identify Navy SEALs.
For comparison, below are a few
photos of late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle.
Note the skull logo on his baseball cap,
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Voluntarist

United States

#50822 Apr 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Sorry I dont waste time with looney media(tm)
I agree I try to ignore the Stamford advocate, but it's there today

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#50823 Apr 17, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I agree I try to ignore the Stamford advocate, but it's there today
I think I would have to agree with you on that one. That paper is pathetic.

Wasnt always the case.

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#50824 Apr 17, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
Navy SEALs Spotted at
Boston Marathon Wearing
Suspicious Backpacks?
Savvy Internet sleuths have found
images taken from surveillance
cameras of members of the crowd
gathered at the Boston Marathon that
appear to identify Navy SEALs.
For comparison, below are a few
photos of late Navy SEAL Chris Kyle.
Note the skull logo on his baseball cap,
his pants and his boots:
http://www.infowars.com/navy-seals-spotted-at...
To save all of us (including you) time, next time you have the impulse to post like that, simply post:

"baa baa..."
Voluntarist

United States

#50825 Apr 17, 2013
http://news.yahoo.com/report-us-resorted-tort...

NEW YORK (AP)— An independent
review of the U.S. government's anti-
terrorism response after the Sept. 11,
2001, attacks reported Tuesday that it
is "indisputable" the United States
engaged in torture and the George W.
Bush administration bears
responsibility.
The report by the Constitution Project ,
a non-partisan Washington-based
think-tank, is an ambitious review of
the Bush administration's approach to
the problems of holding and
interrogating detainees after the
attacks on the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon.
The report says brutality has occurred
in war before, "But there is no
evidence there had ever before been
the kind of considered and detailed
discussions that occurred after
September 11, directly involving a
president and his top advisers on the
wisdom, propriety and legality of
inflicting pain and torment on some
detainees in our custody."
The former U.S. ambassador to the
United Nations under President
George W. Bush , John Bolton, called
the report "completely divorced from
reality" and stressed that the
procedures were "lawyered, and
lawyered again, and lawyered again."
"The whole point of the Bush
administration's review of the
techniques was so that no one would
be tortured," he said. "The intention
was precisely the opposite."
The Constitution Project surveyed the
ways in which prisoners were held and
interrogated at Guantanamo Bay, in
Afghanistan and Iraq, and at secret
CIA "black prisons."

Since: Apr 13

Sao Paolo, Brazil

#50827 Apr 17, 2013
It's not only Messianic Jews who are persecuted in Israel. Christians and Muslims also get discriminated against.
Eric

La Grange Park, IL

#50828 Apr 17, 2013
Mariana DM 1989 wrote:
It's not only Messianic Jews who are persecuted in Israel. Christians and Muslims also get discriminated against.
really? Can we talk about persecution of women, gays and the physically challenged in Malawi?

Since: Apr 13

Sao Paolo, Brazil

#50829 Apr 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
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really? Can we talk about persecution of women, gays and the physically challenged in Malawi?
Yes we can talk about that if you want to but the only problem is that I'm not a Malawian =) I just live here. I'm originally from Brazil where people of all colors and groups are treated well unlike your israel

Since: Apr 13

Sao Paolo, Brazil

#50830 Apr 17, 2013
Eric wrote:
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really? Can we talk about persecution of women, gays and the physically challenged in Malawi?
You don't have a right to condemn me for a country's society if I do not come from that country. Let us compare my Brazil and your israel and israel will end up looking like the 4th reich

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#50831 Apr 17, 2013
Mariana DM 1989 wrote:
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Yes we can talk about that if you want to but the only problem is that I'm not a Malawian =) I just live here. I'm originally from Brazil where people of all colors and groups are treated well unlike your israel
Excuse me?

The land of the Amazon where all Indians are allowed to live according to ancestral rights, with no territorial infringement or discrimination by the state?

Charity begins at home. So does native rights. Then when your house is order, you will have the moral standing to opine on others.

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#50832 Apr 17, 2013
Mariana DM 1989 wrote:
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You don't have a right to condemn me for a country's society if I do not come from that country. Let us compare my Brazil and your israel and israel will end up looking like the 4th reich
Are you hopelessly naive? Or do you just hate Jews?

Persecution on Indians in Brazil

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-...

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#50833 Apr 17, 2013
http://www.yale.edu/gsp/amazon/arara_indians....

Arara Indians fight bullets and bulldozers

Arara Indians in Brazilian Amazonia are fighting for their survival against waves of armed loggers, ranchers and colonists who are destroying their forest homeland. The situation is so volatile that the Arara dare not hunt further than 10 kilometres from their village. Traditional hunting trips, where men go off for days in search of game, are impossible as the Indians will not risk sleeping in the forest at night. Imprisoned within their own land, one Arara described leading ëa life of terror' as the forest echoes to the constant roar of chainsaws felling mahogany and other valuable hardwoods.

Government officials have reportedly surveyed the Arara territory (called Cachoeira Seca) with the aim of reducing its size and handing out tracts of the land to loggers and settlers. It has not yet been demarcated (physically mapped out with markers) by the government. The Bannach logging company bulldozed a road through the territory in the 1980s and now land grabbers and loggers are opening up feeder roads and penetrating deeper into Arara land......

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#50834 Apr 17, 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil

The land now called Brazil was claimed by Portugal in April 1500, on the arrival of the Portuguese fleet commanded by Pedro Álvares Cabral.[30] The Portuguese encountered stone age natives divided into several tribes, most of whom spoke languages of the Tupi–Guarani family, and fought among themselves.[31] Though the first settlement was founded in 1532, colonization was effectively begun in 1534, when King Dom João III of Portugal divided the territory into twelve hereditary captaincies.[32][33]

This arrangement proved problematic, and in 1549 the king assigned a Governor-General to administer the entire colony.[33][34] The Portuguese assimilated some of the native tribes[35] while others were enslaved or exterminated in long wars or by European diseases to which they had no immunity.[36][37] By the mid-16th century, sugar had become Brazil's most important export[31][38] and the Portuguese imported African slaves[39][40] to cope with the increasing international demand.[36][41]....

Since: Apr 13

Sao Paolo, Brazil

#50835 Apr 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Excuse me?
The land of the Amazon where all Indians are allowed to live according to ancestral rights, with no territorial infringement or discrimination by the state?
Charity begins at home. So does native rights. Then when your house is order, you will have the moral standing to opine on others.
You can only rant and mask such rants using intellectual language but the truth is that you will not find any cases of ethnic discrimination between people in Brazil.

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#50836 Apr 17, 2013
Assessment for Amazonian Indians in Brazil
UNHCR

http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwm...

Indians are not considered full Brazilian citizens, which has allowed non-indigenous people to discriminate against them as "less than full people." Such social prejudices have contributed to violence between the two groups. Violence against the indigenous appears likely to persist, as does indigenous mobilization against ranchers and settlers on their territories. Likewise, non-indigenous people are mobilizing against the Indians in these areas.

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#50837 Apr 17, 2013
I think you get the idea

or you should...

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#50838 Apr 17, 2013
Voluntarist wrote:
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I agree I try to ignore the Stamford advocate, but it's there today
I havent seen the paper edition in years.

Every so often they give out freebies and it goes in the recycling bn along with the yearly free phonebooks

Since: Apr 13

Sao Paolo, Brazil

#50839 Apr 17, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
Assessment for Amazonian Indians in Brazil
UNHCR
http://www.refworld.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/rwm...
Indians are not considered full Brazilian citizens, which has allowed non-indigenous people to discriminate against them as "less than full people." Such social prejudices have contributed to violence between the two groups. Violence against the indigenous appears likely to persist, as does indigenous mobilization against ranchers and settlers on their territories. Likewise, non-indigenous people are mobilizing against the Indians in these areas.
My friend, I am not talking about small technical discrimination such as Indians in Brazil not being legally recognized as fully Brazilian. I am talking about racism. In Brazil you will not find this. A large portion of Brazil's population is mixed white and Indian, hence the nice brown skin color of many Brazilians. The fact that the government does not recognize Indians as full citizens is irrelevant to the fact that there is no racism in Brazilian society. Israel, on the other hand is well known for settler attacks against innocent Arab civilians in the west bank areas such as Hebron,let us not forget about the official poll which revealed that most Israelis would support apartheid policies against Arabs( check on google) and the discrimination against Ethiopians.

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