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“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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JOEL wrote:
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God is a being among several other beings.
Each archetypal being is God.
I don't worship any being/God.
The Ultimate Reality is a system or a unified field of consciousness-energy that in partial manifestation gives rise to the graduated cosmos and to the archetypal beings of the various cosmic planes like YHVH, Allah, Baal, Moloch, Vishnu, Shiva, Lucifer and others.
Laughably, each one of these archetypal beings styles itself as
G-d/God and warns its followers of dire consequences if they worship other beings (their rivals). LOL.
You are telling other people what they are worshipping.

With all due respect that is arrogant.

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How come?
Monotheism means the worship of just one being among numerous beings.
Don't YHVH, Allah and other inferior beings warn their respective followers of severe punishment if they happen to worship other gods/beings?
This clearly shows that YHVH and Allah with their anthropathetic traits wish to be the dominant being over and above their rivals (other beings).
Thats not the definition of monotheism

Definition of MONOTHEISM
: the doctrine or belief that there is but one God

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The punishment is for worshipping "beings" OTHER than God. God is not a being, or in the words of Green, God is BEING. Limits of language once again.

Sometimes I think you are not that different than Hughbe after all. Same literalistic approach.

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I shall be posting several excerpts from the writings and talks of FRITJOF CAPRA and J KRISHNAMURTI with detailed analysis where necessary.
I took the liberty of googling around a bit regarding your hero FRITJOF CAPRA and honestly, I think he has more of a grip on a lot of these ideas than you do.
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Refreshed. I missed Hugh - had Hugh been in the shower with me, he would have scrubbed my back with a loofah.

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Monotheism means the worship of one being among several others who are its rivals.
This is why we read in the monotheistic scriptures serious threats issued by a particular being against worshipping other gods (its rival beings).
"I am a jealous being (G-d)!".
These are the inferior cults of the world that have ensnared in their nets billions of myopic followers with each bunch of deluded followers believing that a particular being that it worships (to the exclusion of all other beings) is the Supreme God or whatever and the being worshipped loves arrogating to itself the grand title of the Supreme Ruler and Supreme Creator of the universe. LOL.
Judaism is not a monotheistic religion as you naively understood, but a monolastristic religion.

Monolatrism recognizes the existence of many gods, but it focuses only to worship one god out of many.

In Torah YHVH never said that other gods don't exist, but rather he has warned the Hebrews to not worship other gods, he's very jealous about it.
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NOTE:

I will be posting excerpts from the works/talks of Fritjof Capra and J Krishnamurti and correct all the errors in their views.
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Judaism is not a monotheistic religion as you naively understood, but a monolastristic religion.
That's mere play on words.

The exclusive worship of one God (being) who wants to be the only God over and above all its rivals (other beings) is my definition of monotheism.

Personally speaking, I have sufficient direct experience of this petty stand. This is another matter, however.
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Ya Ma.

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After, man, the mental being, who?
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The supramental being.
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After the supramental being, who?
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The being of bliss? Not sure.

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Refreshed. I missed Hugh - had Hugh been in the shower with me, he would have scrubbed my back with a loofah.
(smiles)
That one earned a chuckle

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STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Judaism is not a monotheistic religion as you naively understood, but a monolastristic religion.
Monolatrism recognizes the existence of many gods, but it focuses only to worship one god out of many.
In Torah YHVH never said that other gods don't exist, but rather he has warned the Hebrews to not worship other gods, he's very jealous about it.
Thanks for the term. My vocabulary is one word larger now.

From a theoretical perspective, you are correct. But from a practical perspective, Judaism is a monotheistic religion - i.e. I dont think you will find many modern practitioners that would actually follow the interpretation you offered.

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That's mere play on words.
The exclusive worship of one God (being) who wants to be the only God over and above all its rivals (other beings) is my definition of monotheism.
Personally speaking, I have sufficient direct experience of this petty stand. This is another matter, however.
You are now in Hughbes territory again. You are advancing the use of a private vocabulary.

Thats not how anyone else, or more significantly, how Rabbi Merriam-Webster would define the term.

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Just goes to show that even the great Zen Masters are not perfect.

Zen Groups Distressed by Accusations Against Teacher

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/12/world/asia/...
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SHIVA'S COSMIC DANCE AT CERN & FRITJOF CAPRA:



On June 18, 2004, an unusual new landmark was unveiled at CERN, the European Center for Research in Particle Physics in Geneva a 2m tall statue of the Indian deity Shiva Nataraja, the Lord of Dance. The statue, symbolizing Siva's cosmic dance of creation and destruction, was given to CERN by the Indian government to celebrate the research center's long association with India.

In choosing the image of Shiva Nataraja, the Indian government acknowledged the profound significance of the metaphor of Shiva's dance for the cosmic dance of subatomic particles, which is observed and analyzed by CERN's physicists.

The parallel between Shiva's dance and the dance of subatomic particles was first discussed by Fritjof Capra in an article titled "The Dance of Siva: The Hindu View of Matter in the Light of Modern Physics," published in Main Currents in Modern Thought in 1972. Shiva's cosmic dance then became a central metaphor in Capra's international best-seller The Tao of Physics, first published in 1975 and still in print in over 40 editions around the world.

A special plaque next to the Shiva statue at CERN explains the significance of the metaphor of Siva's cosmic dance with several quotations from The Tao of Physics.

Here is the text of the plaque:

Ananda K. Coomaraswamy, seeing beyond the unsurpassed rhythm, beauty, power and grace of the Nataraja, once wrote of it "It is the clearest image of the activity of God which any art or religion can boast of."

More recently, Fritjof Capra explained that "Modern physics has shown that the rhythm of creation and destruction is not only manifest in the turn of the seasons and in the birth and death of all living creatures, but is also the very essence of inorganic matter," and that "For the modern physicists, then, Siva's dance is the dance of subatomic matter."

It is indeed as Capra concluded: "Hundreds of years ago, Indian artists created visual images of dancing Sivas in a beautiful series of bronzes. In our time, physicists have used the most advanced technology to portray the patterns of the cosmic dance. The metaphor of the cosmic dance thus unifies ancient mythology, religious art and modern physics."

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Capra is wrong in equating the cosmic consciousness-force, Shiva, of the overmental plane, with the physical phenomena of particle-anti particle interactions and the seasons and the cycle of birth, decay and death in general.

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Where does Fritjof Capra err in his analysis? Why?
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That one earned a chuckle.
Yes, Papa.
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You are now in Hughbes territory again. You are advancing the use of a private vocabulary.

Thats not how anyone else, or more significantly, how Rabbi Merriam-Webster would define the term.
Ok, Papa.

No offence meant.

I was just conveying to the audience on this august forum the special meaning that I attach to the term based on yogic experiences and intellectual understanding.
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BEAUTY:

"Beauty is complete order. But most of us have not that sense of beauty in our lives. We may be great artists, great painters, expert in various things, but in our own daily life, with all the anxieties and miseries, we live, unfortunately, a very disordered life. It is a fact. You may be a great scientist, you may be a great expert in a subject, but you have your own problems, struggles, pain, anxieties and the rest of it. We are asking, is it possible to live in complete order within, not impose discipline, control, but to inquire into the nature of this disorder, what are the causes, and to dispel, move away, wash away the cause. Then there is a living order in the universe."

J Krishnamurti

QUESTIONS:

1) What is meant by the term beauty?

2) What is meant by order and disorder?

3) Is order the opposite of disorder? Explain.

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