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former res

Newtown Square, PA

#49060 Feb 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
If you like Mexican, and you feel like slumming over the OG border into the lesser healed parts of my city, I can share with you my super secret best Mexican hole-in-the-wall. Parking, traffic safety, and sometimes personal safety is often an issue, though still worth the expedition.
Mex is one our favorites. Please do share.

Lived in phila for 20 years. i'm good w/ cities.

Did your snow shovel hold out or did u get a new one?

i heard possibly more snow next weekend??

JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49061 Feb 11, 2013
To remain forever confined on the gross level of rituals, thoughts and scripture is a sure sign of inferiority.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49062 Feb 11, 2013
To talk in terms of my faith and yours is ignorance and bigotry.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49063 Feb 11, 2013
Imitation is mediocrity.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49064 Feb 11, 2013
LIMITATIONS OF SCIENCE:

The greatest limitations of science are:

1) Its incapacity to enter into the core of an object under investigation and to know its true nature by identification with it in consciousness.

2) Inability to cogently answer questions related to the origins of existence.

3) Its incapacity to uplift or regenerate nature and individual.

4) Its incapacity to engineer life from scratch.

5) Its inability to predict the future or to know the past of an individual/person.

6) Its incapacity to prevent death.

7) Its inability to revive the dead.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49065 Feb 11, 2013
Excerpt From UNCOMMON WISDOM By FRITJOF CAPRA:

Page 97:

R D Laing in no way denied the existence of mental illness. But he insisted that, in order to understand a patient, the psychiatrist had to understand him in the context of his relations with other human beings, which included very centrally the relationship between the patient and psychiatrist himself. Traditional psychiatry, by contrast, has followed a Cartesian approach in which the patient is isolated from his or her environment - conceptually and physically - and labeled in terms of a well-defined mental disease. Laing emphasized that no one has schizophrenia like having a cold and went on to make the radical assertion that in many of the classic psychiatric texts the very psychopathology projected on to the person called "patient" can clearly be seen manifested in the mentality of the psychiatrist.

QUESTION:

Where lies the flaw in psychiatry/psychiatric methods as described above by Capra?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49066 Feb 11, 2013
Excerpt From UNCOMMON WISDOM By FRITJOF CAPRA - PART 2:

Page 97

Conventional psychiatry is plagued by a confusion that lies at the very center of the conceptual problems of all modern, scientific medicine: the confusion between disease process and disease origins. Instead of asking why a mental illness occurs, medical researchers try to understand the biological mechanism through which the disease operates. These mechanisms, rather than the true origins, are seen as the causes of the illness. Accordingly, most current psychiatric treatments are limited to suppressing symptoms with psychoactive drugs. Although they have been very successful in doing so, this approach has not helped psychiatrists understand mental illness any better, nor has it allowed their patients to solve the underlying problems.

QUESTION:

What is meant by the biological basis of a mental illness?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49067 Feb 11, 2013
Excerpt From UNCOMMON WISDOM By FRITJOF CAPRA - PART 3 - LSD:

Page 100

What is LSD and what is its effect on the human mind and body?

"This is a key question I asked myself for many years," replied Stan Grof. "The search for typical, mandatory pharmacological effects of LSD was an important aspect of my early analytical work on the LSD data.....After analyzing 3000 records from LSD sessions, I have not found a single symptom that would be an absolutely mandatory and invariant component of the LSD experience. The absence of any distinct drug-specific effects and the enormous range of phenomena that occur during these sessions have convinced me that LSD is best understood as a powerful unspecific amplifier, or catalyst, of mental processes, which facilitates the emergence of unconscious material from different levels of the human psyche. The richness and enormous variability of the LSD experience can be explained in this way by the fact that the entire personality of the subject and the structure of his or her unconscious play a decisive role. I realized that rather than studying the specific effects of a psychotic drug on the brain, I would be able to use LSD as a powerful research tool for the exploration of the human mind. When you compare material from consecutive LSD sessions of the same person, it becomes evident that there is a definite continuity, a successive unfolding of deeper and deeper levels of the unconscious. On this inner journey a person may first move through a Freudian phase, then pass through a death-rebirth experience that can be loosely referred to as Rankian, and the advanced sessions of the same person may have a mythological and religious quality that can best be described in Jungian terms. All these psychotherapeutic systems can therefore be useful for certain stages of LSD process."

QUESTIONS:

1) What is the unconscious as compared to the subconscious and the subliminal?

2) Why does a chemical like LSD confer on us these experiences in consciousness?

3) What is at the root of the LSD experiences?

4) What is the mind?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49068 Feb 11, 2013
NEXT UP FOR REVIEW - ENTROPY IN PHYSICAL & BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS - Fritjof Capra, THE WEB OF LIFE.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#49069 Feb 11, 2013
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Mex is one our favorites. Please do share.
Lived in phila for 20 years. i'm good w/ cities.
Did your snow shovel hold out or did u get a new one?
i heard possibly more snow next weekend??
Casa Villa on W Main - park on Stillwater and walk briskly (Do not stare or gawk at the gang members, do not spend an extraordinary long time locking your car or otherwise attracting attention).(Once inside do NOT stare excessively at the cutie behind the register either, if you value yourself mostly intact...)

I did buy a new one, a lot lighter. But I learned that flimsy plastic shovels do not fracture ice so well. Black ice was the issue this morning. Slush is the issue now.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49070 Feb 11, 2013
EVOLUTION OF MATTER OR OF CONSCIOUSNESS?

Evolution means the successive emergences in matter of the involved grades of consciousness with each gradation engineering its unique material form. To imagine that sentience emerged from insentient chemicals and that life-forms of superior information content evolved from life-forms of inferior information content is outrageously paradoxical and a shocking assault on the human intelligence.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#49071 Feb 11, 2013
JOEL wrote:
LIMITATIONS OF SCIENCE:
The greatest limitations of science are:
1) Its incapacity to enter into the core of an object under investigation and to know its true nature by identification with it in consciousness.
2) Inability to cogently answer questions related to the origins of existence.
3) Its incapacity to uplift or regenerate nature and individual.
4) Its incapacity to engineer life from scratch.
5) Its inability to predict the future or to know the past of an individual/person.
6) Its incapacity to prevent death.
7) Its inability to revive the dead.
Do we REALLY want people running around engineering life from scratch OR reviving the dead?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49072 Feb 11, 2013
*

To imagine that sentience emerged from insentient chemicals and that life-forms of superior information content evolved from life-forms of inferior information content ARE outrageously paradoxical and shocking assaults on the human intelligence.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49073 Feb 11, 2013
EVOLUTION is an act of VOLITION of the inherent consciousness in a system as it emerges from a state of involution with the materialization of its concomitant energy content.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#49074 Feb 11, 2013
Give your proof reader a lollipop
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49075 Feb 11, 2013
The words "pure" and "impure" as applied to sentient entities are misnomers since being is a mixture of many states or gradations of existence. The parts and planes of a sentient entity can exist in either of the two states - "balance" or "imbalance".
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49076 Feb 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>

Do we REALLY want people running around engineering life from scratch OR reviving the dead?
Obviously, Papa, these feats cannot be engineered using material means and spell one of the major limitations - if not the major limitation - of science.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49078 Feb 11, 2013
PERFECT BALANCE among the various parts and planes of being means perfect immunity from wear and tear and decomposition with the result being physical immortality. The stupendous feat of attaining to a state of perfect balance cannot be executed via the ordinary consciousness.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49079 Feb 11, 2013
MONEY is not a hollow convention; it carries with it a universal consciousness-force (of garnering material resources) that manifests in those who can efficiently galvanize their faculties and adjust these with the environment to yield the best results (within their innate capacity) in terms of material or financial gains. Dishonest means of earning money involve perverse universal mechanisms at work.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#49080 Feb 11, 2013
EXALTED HUMAN ACTIVITY involves making serious, passionate and sustained attempts at moving into the next plane of consciousness and manifesting that in matter to refine its workings. Oh! enough of unregenerate matter and enough of moving in mindless circles around the same set of puerile and evanescent material goals.

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