Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Got me through the college years, particularly the weekends.

I preferred the more refined mac and cheese, with that "tasty" stuff that masqueraded as cheese dust.

[former res]

Mmmmm....chesse dust/donuts....

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Cult of Reason]

rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:

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rabbee: what does the word, christian mean. which is the greek word christ, with an ian suffix meaning like. so the question is, are they! are they really messiah/annointed like? or are they just delusionly, claiming to be christian?
do they really preach and teach, from out of TheTorah? since Benee Adam, did not have any new testament to preach and teach from. wasn't He just informing them then, your train is derailed again? and you need to get back, on TheTorah Track.

Nobody's perfect.

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

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Worship of natural phenomena as individual phenomena is paganism (though there are some that confuse it with pantheism). Worship of the organic whole as a whole is pantheism, or sometimes panentheism, depending on how important you see the whole from the whole.

Let's just call it Nature Worship...

Nature worship describes a variety of religious, spiritual and devotional practices that focus on natural phenomenon. A nature deity can be in charge of nature, the biosphere, the cosmos or the universe. Nature worship can be found in panentheism, pantheism, deism, polytheism, animism, totemism, shamanism and paganism where deities are viewed as the embodiment of natural forces. Common to most forms of nature worship is a spiritual focus on the individual's connection to the natural world and reverence towards it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_worship

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Let's just call it Nature Worship...
Nature worship describes a variety of religious, spiritual and devotional practices that focus on natural phenomenon. A nature deity can be in charge of nature, the biosphere, the cosmos or the universe. Nature worship can be found in panentheism, pantheism, deism, polytheism, animism, totemism, shamanism and paganism where deities are viewed as the embodiment of natural forces. Common to most forms of nature worship is a spiritual focus on the individual's connection to the natural world and reverence towards it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_worship

I can accept that.

Though a more thoughtful pantheist/panentheist/pagan et al might examine what the boundary between nature and man really is....To me, it seems like a false dichotomy. Arent us humans part of nature? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem
if so, what is nature? If not, what is nature?

[JOEL]

PLAGIARISM & JEWISH HYPOCRISY:

THOU SHALT NOT KILL is a hoary universal law of ethics that is anterior to the Tanakh and as such it is not Jewish in origin though it forms part of the Jewish teachings. Ironically, the Hebrew patriarch Moshe preached against non-killing but was himself a mass murderer. LOL.

[JOEL]

Not one of the ten sayings of Moshe/Moses is original.

[Eric]

JOEL wrote:

PLAGIARISM & JEWISH HYPOCRISY:
THOU SHALT NOT KILL is a hoary universal law of ethics that is anterior to the Tanakh and as such it is not Jewish in origin though it forms part of the Jewish teachings. Ironically, the Hebrew patriarch Moshe preached against non-killing but was himself a mass murderer. LOL.

That's not what it says. You have a bad translation.

[JOEL]

NATURE:

1) NATURE is the graduated manifestation of the source of the universe.

2) Nature has its objective and subjective sides depending on where the consciousness of the individual is stationed.

3) If the individual's consciousness is fully exteriorized as in the vast majority of people then a person feels cut off from the universal currents and thinks that he's separate from the others and from external nature despite knowing in theory that everything is a product of nature.

4) If the consciousness of the person is more sensitive or open then he directly perceives the causal links between his being and others and external nature.

5) The multiple aspects of nature are interconnected as per logic, Bell's Theorem, Systems' Theory and mystical perception.

6) Subjective and objective are mental constructs that depend on the state of consciousness of the individual.

7) There exists only one reality that has multiple aspects when it manifests.

[JOEL]

Eric wrote:

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That's not what it says. You have a bad translation.

Then what is it? Give the exact translation.

Wasn't Moshe a mass murderer like so many of the Hebrew "prophets"?

[JOEL]

Is there any difference between Moshe and Mao - both mass murdering psychopaths?

[Frijoles]

Joel - what happened to post 97?

[Frijoles]

JOEL wrote:

PLAGIARISM & JEWISH HYPOCRISY:
THOU SHALT NOT KILL is a hoary universal law of ethics that is anterior to the Tanakh and as such it is not Jewish in origin though it forms part of the Jewish teachings. Ironically, the Hebrew patriarch Moshe preached against non-killing but was himself a mass murderer. LOL.

hoary?

Do they really speak like that in India?

[Frijoles]

JOEL wrote:

Not one of the ten sayings of Moshe/Moses is original.

Neither is most of your stuff. Yet we still comment.

[Frijoles]

JOEL wrote:

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Then what is it? Give the exact translation.
Wasn't Moshe a mass murderer like so many of the Hebrew "prophets"?

Look it up

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

[JOEL]

Frijoles wrote:

Joel - what happened to post 97?

I dunno, Papa.

[Frijoles]

JOEL wrote:

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I dunno, Papa.

was it yours?

[JOEL]

I'm full, now.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Nobody's perfect.

rabbee: yeah but not even patheticly close, you must admit is highly rediculpous. and i do no accept the idea, that nobody can become perfect. since they have managed, to become the perfect opposite.

[rabbee yehoshooah adam]

JOEL wrote:

I'm full, now.

rabbee for more than a year, people have been telling you that same thing. and you, just now reaized it?