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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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former res

Broomall, PA

#47559 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You do realize that probably just last week he went out of the way to call me one the smarter posters here.
They call it mania for a reason.
Hey....don't tell me I didn't make that list either!

(Not to make it all about me!:)))

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#47560 Jan 22, 2013
idgaf wrote:
Nope, I do that out of respect to a Higher Power. I am by no means agnostic. I fully believe in God, not like you may or others may.
I don't believe in god due to lack of evidence. I am an atheist.

I assumed you were agnostic based on your previous posts where you seemed to question the existence of god and/or his attributes, claiming it was unknowable. That is the text book definition of agnostic. Sorry if I misread your posts.
idgaf wrote:
My belief is that we (humans) don't understand what God is. My thoughts are that we are completely misguided and spend a lot of time and effort trying to follow a path that we do not know to be the correct path. We spend too much time and effort trying to get to heaven, not really understanding what it is.
So, how do you know god exists? How do you know heaven exists? Why waste any time at all preoccupied with trying to get into a place that may not exist? Why not just live a good life and let the chips fall where they may?
idgaf wrote:
I look at this as follows: 10 people are going to be given a test ... What is the test? That is the mystery.
- 1 studies mathematics
- 1 studies history
- 1 studies politics
- 1 fianance
- 1 ev olution
-...
- 1 studies nothing
Which is best prepared for the test?
The question is malformed and presents a false dichotomy.

Personally, I would refuse to take the test if the proctor of the exam is going to be a prick and not even tell me what's on it.

OTOH, I might still study one or more of the above topics in an effort to better educate myself, even if I don't intend to take any test.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#47561 Jan 22, 2013
idgaf wrote:
... I was raised in a home with a non-practicing Catholic father and a Catholic mother who converted to Christianity
What do you mean by "a Catholic mother who converted to Christianity". What she a non-Christian that converted to Catholicism? Or did you mean that she was Catholic and converted to some other branch of Christianity?
idgaf wrote:
... I personally never took up any of it ... From a young age I had too many simple questions that the grown-ups at church could not answer ... 2nd grade I asked the Sunday school teacher in reading Genesis ... IDGAF "How many Gods were there?"...FAE "Child of course there was only One" ...IDGAF "How come Genisis states ... Let's make man in Our image"... FAE "The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost"... I didn't quite buy that explanation and simply understood that she did not know ... She struggled ...
So, I went to Sunday school and all that good stuff, but somehow, I was never content with what people talked about ... Couldn't understand the blind faith ... I understand it now, people simply need something to believe in ... The thought of being born, living and dying couldn't have been without reason ...
Why can't your life have reason or purpose without a god? The only thing a god would provide is an externally determined purpose. You can still have an internally determined purpose(s) without a god. And why do we need childish stories of eternal reward or damnation to coerce us into being good. I certainly don't. Do you?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#47562 Jan 22, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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He can't quit you.
I bet he could if he found someone closer.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#47563 Jan 22, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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What do you mean by "a Catholic mother who converted to Christianity". What she a non-Christian that converted to Catholicism? Or did you mean that she was Catholic and converted to some other branch of Christianity?
Or maybe a Jewish mother who converted to Catholicism so as to make her husbands family happy.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#47564 Jan 22, 2013
former res wrote:
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Hey....don't tell me I didn't make that list either!
(Not to make it all about me!:)))
I actually thought long and hard about whether I wanted to respond at all (dont feed the troll rules) and then purposely decided on something that would deflect the conversation back to him.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#47565 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I bet he could if he found someone closer.
No. The two of you share a bond that could never be replaced.

JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47566 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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You do realize that probably just last week he went out of the way to call me one the smarter posters here.
You're smarter than Hugh, MUQ, Gtown71.

I'd hardly call that an achievement.

Anyway, peace to you.

How are you, Papa?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47567 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I actually thought long and hard about whether I wanted to respond at all (dont feed the troll rules) and then purposely decided on something that would deflect the conversation back to him.
Stop being so narrow, unclassy and mean.

Let the conservation flow freely instead of deciding who one should converse with or not.

Everyone should be free to communicate with anyone of his choice.

Understand, please?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47568 Jan 22, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--- poor Joel would have been exhausted by the time he reached your number.
LOL.

I am really surprised at the low level of intelligence, meanness, parochialism, clannishness and bigotry on this august forum.

I would like Topix to suspend this thread but then I doubt if Topix will do this as we posters bring in ad money. LOL.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47569 Jan 22, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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No. The two of you share a bond that could never be replaced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jwlYo8EYTWIXX
ouch

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#47570 Jan 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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I would like Topix to suspend this thread but then I doubt if Topix will do this as we posters bring in ad money. LOL.
JOEL wrote:
<quoted text>
Let the conservation flow freely instead of deciding who one should converse with or not.
Everyone should be free to communicate with anyone of his choice.
Understand, please?
which is it?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47571 Jan 22, 2013
former res wrote:
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By the same token, I am gratified for being overlooked.
You're smarter than Hugh, MUQ and Frijoles but you're being influenced by the low standards of your pal Frijoles who is out to decide who talks to whom and on what basis.

I pity such pathetic individuals who're heading for destruction if they don't clean up their act fast.

Anyone should be free to talk with anyone and on the contrary we should communicate more with our detractors to clarify matters or to to debate a point down to its fine details.

I am all for free debate and have no favorites as such and am open to even conversing intensely and regularly with my detractors.

Shunning people, instigating others to shun certain posters and forming a narrow coterie to target others are the signs of uncouth and unintelligent people.

FRIJOLES should improve his pathetic behaviour and stop behaving like a typical demon-worshipping Jew that he is. I pity him. He has absolutely no class and is only slightly more intelligent than nuts like MUQ, Hugh, Alex and Gtown71. He'd better grow up, soon.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47572 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I actually thought long and hard about whether I wanted to respond at all (dont feed the troll rules) and then purposely decided on something that would deflect the conversation back to him.
Incoherent reply.

You're an insignificant person from all angles.

Better grow up fast and display some class and use the little intelligence at your disposal in better ways.

Let there be free debate among posters without an ordinary guy like you deciding the rules.

Why are you behaving in this stupid manner? Hashem's commands? LOL. Hashem is a demon. Forget him. Move on

I expect better standards from you, Papa.

Please understand.

You should behave like a magnanimous person with class and not be blacklisting me or anyone else.

Lots of love and Best Regards,

Your son,

Joel.
UTICASUX

Colorado Springs, CO

#47573 Jan 22, 2013
UticaSux wrote:
Hmmm
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former res

Broomall, PA

#47574 Jan 22, 2013
Joel,

Why do you always post in great spasms?
former res

Broomall, PA

#47575 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I actually thought long and hard about whether I wanted to respond at all (dont feed the troll rules) and then purposely decided on something that would deflect the conversation back to him.
A method to your madness....

or is it

Crazy like a fox?

or both?

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#47576 Jan 22, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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FRIJOLES should improve his pathetic behaviour and stop behaving like a typical demon-worshipping Jew that he is. I pity him. He has absolutely no class and is only slightly more intelligent than nuts like MUQ, Hugh, Alex and Gtown71. He'd better grow up, soon.
Or else.....I'll hold my breath until I turn blue
.....I'll throw a tantrum
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47577 Jan 22, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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<quoted text>

which is it?
Thank you, Papa, for responding.

Actually speaking, if Topix shuts down this thread, it'll, in a way, be good as most posters are simply wasting electricity and consciousness by forming coteries, sticking to old thinking and targeting those we disagree with.

I doubt if Topix will suspend this thread as our postings, inane or sane, are a nice money-spinner for Topix.

At the same time, if the thread continues, it should be a free debate where everyone can participate without bar or without anyone dictating the pace or without anyone shunning anyone or asking others to do so.

You should know better than the others why I keep posting here regularly - I am using this forum as a field of action for cultivating detachment despite recently quitting the integral yoga when it turned life-threatening once again as it did a few weeks ago and to learn more about people and cultures.

I love you very much and respect you and wish I had a biological father like you. I mean it, seriously.

I am also using this thread to overcome my depression and mind-body damage......

I found in you a great critic and am thankful to you for bringing out some of the best in me.

I always make it a point to mention your name to close friends. Some of them adore you for being a sort of anchor or father figure to me when you're positive towards me.

When you ignore me or ask others to do so, I am at sea and feel sad despite the detachment that is growing in me.

I am a person of debate who may appear rude or merciless but within I love everyone and never try to shun people for long and even if I do so I am back, after some time, entering into debates with the same person.

Life is too short and too varied to hold grudges.

Lots of Love and Best Regards.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#47578 Jan 22, 2013
DO AWAY WITH THE "JUDGE IT" BUTTON:

It's being put to vindictive, rash and inaesthetic use by many immature posters here. I am against using the judging button. Let everyone have his/her say without being judgemental. Debate the point but resist the temptation to press the judge button. Freedom is the watchword, here.

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