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HughBe---Jews had a Jewish IDENTITY before they got "Judaism". They had a Jewish IDENTITY when God made a covenant with them.
Frijoles--- Actually that is untrue
1. You have yet to specify WHICH covenant you meant
HughBe--- look here rabbinic moron my statement is true. I'm using Jew as it is currently used for the 12 tribes. Israel would be technically correct.
The FACT is God made a COVENANT with a people called Israel/JEWS. They were not NAMED at the time of making the covenant.They already had the name and the IDENTITY being descendants of Israel hence ISRAELITES. Get it moron?
Finally, rabbinic moron, it matters not which covenant what is important is that God made a covenant with Israel. Don't your masters teach you these basic things?
Which covenant? There were several.