Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Frijoles

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1. I am happy to learn that you will "welcome" a Palestinian state existing alongside Isreal.
You see that you are "disturbed" when HAMAS chief says that they will throw all Jews into the sea…..how would Palestinian feel when they hear "Palestine belongs to the Jews".
These are rhetorics and such people are on both side. You should not forget that PLO and HAMAS and HIZBOLLAH are all the "products of Israel's Expansion Policy" from 1948-1973!!
When they wanted to create a "Greater Isreal" and be not content with what they got from UNO.
People get overambitious when some "powerful friends" put their hands on their back.
You have some good points (maybe you are on a roll)

In terms of accuracy, the arab discontent was rooted well before 1948, there were violent riots in 1910s, and the 30s. But I concede you could argue is was still a response.

I should note that the radical Israeli views you state are in the minority within the Jewish people - most Israelis want peace of some type.

We would like to think the same about the Palestinians, but it is VERY hard to argue this when we see photos of thousands and thousands of them demonstrating in support of Hamas, or when the PA president refuses to condemn such remarks. ANd then there is the issue of the textbooks...
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03. If we are good Jews, Good Christians or Good Muslims, there will not be any fighting between them, because they will be on the same platform.
I am not convinced of that.

The latter two religions have evangelical focuses. They dont promote leaving people alone.

This sets up an inherent conflict and promotes intolerance in the name of being a good "______".

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2. You complain frequently of my answers being rhetoric, while you forget to see how many of your own replies come under that category?
Unless I label my post as opinion, I can back up any assertion with fact. I spend a certain amount of time here demonstrating that you have not done the same. Thats what I meant.
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Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!

Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
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Huggy,

You have 3 responses to me yet outstanding:

Saturday, page 2048, Postings # 45030, 1, 2,(3 postings in a row)

Affectionately,

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Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!
Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
Dont forget the scrumptious serving of lunch she is sitting on.
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I would like to take a minute out and thank my sponsor, Judging Fan, for his continued support and attention.

Without him I would be just another poorly read, poorly appreciated poster on this forum.

Thank you!
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Ten thousand posts later and you actually post something I agree with.
Judging Fan would be proud
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rabbee: well i can only hope, that your both not on the same wrong side of any more issues that much. if your both going to be wrong, i prefer your not on the same side. kind of hard to award the no-bell peace prize, to both side wanting their own piece.

so frijoles - you did not see, any thing wrong with his post? do you have any idea, how embarassing it is? for G-D to see a lying jew, in agreement with a lying christian or even worse lying muslem.

ten thousands posts, without one actual truth. is just too normal, for this world to get excited about.
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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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so frijoles - you did not see, any thing wrong with his post?.
Historically, his post was not inaccurate. There are settlers/Jews that want a "greater" Israel. There are also many (maybe most)Jews that are not as expansionist, and would live with a Palestinian state side by side, assuming security guarantees are granted. And there are many Palestinians that want to throw all the Jews into the sea, from the 1880s on to this present day.
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Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!
Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
My dear Former, take your medicine, you are still delusional.

The person is UGLY.
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Dont forget the scrumptious serving of lunch she is sitting on.
I'm not surprised by your comment. I have known for a long time that you are served from the buttocks or what she is sitting on.
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I'm not surprised by your comment. I have known for a long time that you are served from the buttocks or what she is sitting on.
Who are your friends that tell you that you are reincarnated?
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and dont forget to address FR outstanding comments. We would hate to see him grumpy.
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Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt. They are not my Rabbis. I guess that concept is difficult for a bird brain to follow. Lets try it this way: Do you follow the pope?
HughBe--- history and the record shows that YOU called your rabbis NUTTY and CORRUPT.

Frijoles---They are not my Rabbis.

HughBe--- I do not blame YOU to disown them they would do the same to you, if it suits their interest.

Frijoles---Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt.

HughBe--- Well scrolling back does not support your claim. Post 44787 P2037 reveals that YOU called the Israeli RABBINATE two things; NUTS and CORRUPT.

What is the meaning of RABBINATE? could it be RABBIS collectively?

What is the meaning of Israeli?

Actual post below.

Frijoles---Its more complicated I think these days. Your spouse has to be recognized as a Jew by the Israeli rabbinate I think. The Israeli rabbinate is NUTS.(Rightwing and CORRUPT).

HughBe--- Accepted. YOUR TRUTHS are reflected in their man-made doctrines which are NUTS and utterly CORRUPT and is a fulfilment of the prophecy of Moses.

Frijoles---Do you follow the pope?

HughBe--- How many sects are there in Christianity? well over
37, 000. How many sects are there is Judaism? Could it be 3 MAJOR groups? YES i.e.Reformed,Conservative and Orthodox.

The point is YOUR religion which you always speak about using US and WE is practically HOMOGENOUS, not so for Christianity. I could NEVER speak about Christianity as you do given the HIGHLY significane differences in the 37,000 and many hundreds of sects.

Take your pope example, I go to church on the Sabbath the pope on a Sunday. I don't eat unclean meat the pope does. I believe in the appointed feasts of the bible the pope does not. The pope believes in a trinity I KNOW that there is no trinity. I believe that men ought to grow beards the pope does not. I can go on and on.

Now, stop playing with yourself and deciving your peanut brain.

Finally, I take it that when you speak about your rabbis you mean them and not the Jewish people. Please adopt something NEW i.e. this principle and extend this principle to others.

PS---Until you have coorected my belief I will take it that YOU were not calling the Jewish people CORRUPT and NUTTY but were calling your masters/rabbis CORRUPT
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former res wrote:
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You are saying that you do in fact regard SOMEBODY as superior to you.
Ever heard of a "double negative?"
Sloppy thinking leads to sloppy communication.
I know you will strive to do better.
Former--The Nazis thought those with blue eyes and blonde hair were superior. Traits one has no control over. Do you also believe this?

HughBe--- I don't have "blue eyes and blonde hair " so HOW COULD I BELIEVE THAT BS especially since I don't regard NOBODY as superior to me?

Former---You are saying that you do in fact regard SOMEBODY as superior to you.

HughBe---I'm aware that you read my post but as usual it went over your head. Let me explain the complex word NOBODY for you. Recall I said " I don't regard NOBODY as superior to me? "

NOBODY=no person; not anyone; no one

Your comment above is befitting your limitations.

Former---Ever heard of a "double negative?"
Sloppy thinking leads to sloppy communication.
I know you will strive to do better.

HughBe--- as above so below, your words are nonsense.
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So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?
I have no idea what you're saying about reincarnation. How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.
You don't seem to be making sense.
HughBe---I am reincarnated and yet I have no knowledge of it yet others know about MY OWN experience/reincarnation.

Former--So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?

HughBe--- I don't agree and I have the evidence.

Former--- How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.

HughBe--- Good question, Former. Now, I don't know about being REINCARNATED. Case closed.

Former---You don't seem to be making sense.

HughBe--- Take your time it will eventually make sense even if it when you are reincarnated next time.
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HughBe--- history and the record shows that YOU called your rabbis NUTTY and CORRUPT.
Frijoles---They are not my Rabbis.
HughBe--- I do not blame YOU to disown them they would do the same to you, if it suits their interest.
Frijoles---Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt.
HughBe--- Well scrolling back does not support your claim. Post 44787 P2037 reveals that YOU called the Israeli RABBINATE two things; NUTS and CORRUPT.
What is the meaning of RABBINATE? could it be RABBIS collectively?
What is the meaning of Israeli?
Actual post below.
Frijoles---Its more complicated I think these days. Your spouse has to be recognized as a Jew by the Israeli rabbinate I think. The Israeli rabbinate is NUTS.(Rightwing and CORRUPT).
HughBe--- Accepted. YOUR TRUTHS are reflected in their man-made doctrines which are NUTS and utterly CORRUPT and is a fulfilment of the prophecy of Moses.
You spend enormous amounts of energy on this. Wasted time, IMO

We have been thru this a few times before.

There is less separation of Synagogue and State in Israel than in the US. In Israel, there is a certain degree of power given to the state sponsored Rabbis, with regard to conversion and marriage in particular. There are other Rabbis within the country that are not part of the state system as well.

It is a well accepted fact that the state sponsored Rabbis do not always serve the interest of the Israeli public. There are current efforts to reform the system.

That was what i was referring to.

Anything else is just Hughbe the Christian proselytizer, again.
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HughBe---I am reincarnated and yet I have no knowledge of it yet others know about MY OWN experience/reincarnation.
Former--So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?
HughBe--- I don't agree and I have the evidence.
Former--- How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.
HughBe--- Good question, Former. Now, I don't know about being REINCARNATED. Case closed.
Former---You don't seem to be making sense.
HughBe--- Take your time it will eventually make sense even if it when you are reincarnated next time.
that made NO sense
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and dont forget to address FR outstanding comments. We would hate to see him grumpy.
Twas me who "judged" this one!(Not the others...)

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