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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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former res

Broomall, PA

#45099 Dec 10, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!

Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
former res

Broomall, PA

#45100 Dec 10, 2012
Huggy,

You have 3 responses to me yet outstanding:

Saturday, page 2048, Postings # 45030, 1, 2,(3 postings in a row)

Affectionately,

former res
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45102 Dec 10, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!
Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
Dont forget the scrumptious serving of lunch she is sitting on.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45103 Dec 10, 2012
I would like to take a minute out and thank my sponsor, Judging Fan, for his continued support and attention.

Without him I would be just another poorly read, poorly appreciated poster on this forum.

Thank you!
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#45104 Dec 10, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Ten thousand posts later and you actually post something I agree with.
Judging Fan would be proud
:)
rabbee: well i can only hope, that your both not on the same wrong side of any more issues that much. if your both going to be wrong, i prefer your not on the same side. kind of hard to award the no-bell peace prize, to both side wanting their own piece.

so frijoles - you did not see, any thing wrong with his post? do you have any idea, how embarassing it is? for G-D to see a lying jew, in agreement with a lying christian or even worse lying muslem.

ten thousands posts, without one actual truth. is just too normal, for this world to get excited about.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45105 Dec 10, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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so frijoles - you did not see, any thing wrong with his post?.
Historically, his post was not inaccurate. There are settlers/Jews that want a "greater" Israel. There are also many (maybe most)Jews that are not as expansionist, and would live with a Palestinian state side by side, assuming security guarantees are granted. And there are many Palestinians that want to throw all the Jews into the sea, from the 1880s on to this present day.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45107 Dec 10, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
Huggy was right! She's gorgeous!
Such velvety skin. Now I see why she stares at herself all day long.
My dear Former, take your medicine, you are still delusional.

The person is UGLY.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45108 Dec 10, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont forget the scrumptious serving of lunch she is sitting on.
I'm not surprised by your comment. I have known for a long time that you are served from the buttocks or what she is sitting on.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45109 Dec 10, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not surprised by your comment. I have known for a long time that you are served from the buttocks or what she is sitting on.
Who are your friends that tell you that you are reincarnated?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45110 Dec 10, 2012
and dont forget to address FR outstanding comments. We would hate to see him grumpy.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45111 Dec 10, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt. They are not my Rabbis. I guess that concept is difficult for a bird brain to follow. Lets try it this way: Do you follow the pope?
HughBe--- history and the record shows that YOU called your rabbis NUTTY and CORRUPT.

Frijoles---They are not my Rabbis.

HughBe--- I do not blame YOU to disown them they would do the same to you, if it suits their interest.

Frijoles---Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt.

HughBe--- Well scrolling back does not support your claim. Post 44787 P2037 reveals that YOU called the Israeli RABBINATE two things; NUTS and CORRUPT.

What is the meaning of RABBINATE? could it be RABBIS collectively?

What is the meaning of Israeli?

Actual post below.

Frijoles---Its more complicated I think these days. Your spouse has to be recognized as a Jew by the Israeli rabbinate I think. The Israeli rabbinate is NUTS.(Rightwing and CORRUPT).

HughBe--- Accepted. YOUR TRUTHS are reflected in their man-made doctrines which are NUTS and utterly CORRUPT and is a fulfilment of the prophecy of Moses.

Frijoles---Do you follow the pope?

HughBe--- How many sects are there in Christianity? well over
37, 000. How many sects are there is Judaism? Could it be 3 MAJOR groups? YES i.e.Reformed,Conservative and Orthodox.

The point is YOUR religion which you always speak about using US and WE is practically HOMOGENOUS, not so for Christianity. I could NEVER speak about Christianity as you do given the HIGHLY significane differences in the 37,000 and many hundreds of sects.

Take your pope example, I go to church on the Sabbath the pope on a Sunday. I don't eat unclean meat the pope does. I believe in the appointed feasts of the bible the pope does not. The pope believes in a trinity I KNOW that there is no trinity. I believe that men ought to grow beards the pope does not. I can go on and on.

Now, stop playing with yourself and deciving your peanut brain.

Finally, I take it that when you speak about your rabbis you mean them and not the Jewish people. Please adopt something NEW i.e. this principle and extend this principle to others.

PS---Until you have coorected my belief I will take it that YOU were not calling the Jewish people CORRUPT and NUTTY but were calling your masters/rabbis CORRUPT
Scott

UK

#45112 Dec 10, 2012
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HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45113 Dec 10, 2012
former res wrote:
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You are saying that you do in fact regard SOMEBODY as superior to you.
Ever heard of a "double negative?"
Sloppy thinking leads to sloppy communication.
I know you will strive to do better.
Former--The Nazis thought those with blue eyes and blonde hair were superior. Traits one has no control over. Do you also believe this?

HughBe--- I don't have "blue eyes and blonde hair " so HOW COULD I BELIEVE THAT BS especially since I don't regard NOBODY as superior to me?

Former---You are saying that you do in fact regard SOMEBODY as superior to you.

HughBe---I'm aware that you read my post but as usual it went over your head. Let me explain the complex word NOBODY for you. Recall I said " I don't regard NOBODY as superior to me? "

NOBODY=no person; not anyone; no one

Your comment above is befitting your limitations.

Former---Ever heard of a "double negative?"
Sloppy thinking leads to sloppy communication.
I know you will strive to do better.

HughBe--- as above so below, your words are nonsense.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45114 Dec 10, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?
I have no idea what you're saying about reincarnation. How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.
You don't seem to be making sense.
HughBe---I am reincarnated and yet I have no knowledge of it yet others know about MY OWN experience/reincarnation.

Former--So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?

HughBe--- I don't agree and I have the evidence.

Former--- How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.

HughBe--- Good question, Former. Now, I don't know about being REINCARNATED. Case closed.

Former---You don't seem to be making sense.

HughBe--- Take your time it will eventually make sense even if it when you are reincarnated next time.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45115 Dec 10, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe--- history and the record shows that YOU called your rabbis NUTTY and CORRUPT.
Frijoles---They are not my Rabbis.
HughBe--- I do not blame YOU to disown them they would do the same to you, if it suits their interest.
Frijoles---Incorrect. Scroll back. I called the state Rabbinate nutty and corrupt.
HughBe--- Well scrolling back does not support your claim. Post 44787 P2037 reveals that YOU called the Israeli RABBINATE two things; NUTS and CORRUPT.
What is the meaning of RABBINATE? could it be RABBIS collectively?
What is the meaning of Israeli?
Actual post below.
Frijoles---Its more complicated I think these days. Your spouse has to be recognized as a Jew by the Israeli rabbinate I think. The Israeli rabbinate is NUTS.(Rightwing and CORRUPT).
HughBe--- Accepted. YOUR TRUTHS are reflected in their man-made doctrines which are NUTS and utterly CORRUPT and is a fulfilment of the prophecy of Moses.
You spend enormous amounts of energy on this. Wasted time, IMO

We have been thru this a few times before.

There is less separation of Synagogue and State in Israel than in the US. In Israel, there is a certain degree of power given to the state sponsored Rabbis, with regard to conversion and marriage in particular. There are other Rabbis within the country that are not part of the state system as well.

It is a well accepted fact that the state sponsored Rabbis do not always serve the interest of the Israeli public. There are current efforts to reform the system.

That was what i was referring to.

Anything else is just Hughbe the Christian proselytizer, again.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45116 Dec 10, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe---I am reincarnated and yet I have no knowledge of it yet others know about MY OWN experience/reincarnation.
Former--So you agree that you worship your god without a shred of evidence?
HughBe--- I don't agree and I have the evidence.
Former--- How would "others" know if you were reincarnated? I've never heard of this.
HughBe--- Good question, Former. Now, I don't know about being REINCARNATED. Case closed.
Former---You don't seem to be making sense.
HughBe--- Take your time it will eventually make sense even if it when you are reincarnated next time.
that made NO sense
former res

Broomall, PA

#45117 Dec 10, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
and dont forget to address FR outstanding comments. We would hate to see him grumpy.
Twas me who "judged" this one!(Not the others...)
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45118 Dec 10, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Frijoles---Do you follow the pope?
HughBe--- How many sects are there in Christianity? well over
37, 000. How many sects are there is Judaism? Could it be 3 MAJOR groups? YES i.e.Reformed,Conservative and Orthodox.
The point is YOUR religion which you always speak about using US and WE is practically HOMOGENOUS, not so for Christianity. I could NEVER speak about Christianity as you do given the HIGHLY significane differences in the 37,000 and many hundreds of sects.
Take your pope example, I go to church on the Sabbath the pope on a Sunday. I don't eat unclean meat the pope does. I believe in the appointed feasts of the bible the pope does not. The pope believes in a trinity I KNOW that there is no trinity. I believe that men ought to grow beards the pope does not. I can go on and on.
Now, stop playing with yourself and deciving your peanut brain.
Finally, I take it that when you speak about your rabbis you mean them and not the Jewish people. Please adopt something NEW i.e. this principle and extend this principle to others.
PS---Until you have coorected my belief I will take it that YOU were not calling the Jewish people CORRUPT and NUTTY but were calling your masters/rabbis CORRUPT
I guess from that long winded diatribe that you dont follow the pope.

Then why would I be espected to follow any Israeli rabbi - state or private?
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#45119 Dec 10, 2012
Former--I believe we have lawmakers in Washington DC and that some of them are sentient and intelligent.

HughBe--- Focus, we are talking about the laws of nature and the making of nature e.g. planets.

Former--So you can't really talk to dead people or imaginary beings (such as god) then - correct?

HughBe--- Have you ever seen people talking to graves or people in a coffin?

PROVE to me that the person in the coffin cannot hear.

gods are indeed imaginary but NOT the Creator God. I talk to Him everday.

Former---In your own mind, of course you can do or be whatever you want.

HughBe-- Such an approach would reduce my mind to your level.


Former-- What do you mean by spititual existence?

HughBe--- a lifeforce that imparts life to people and is their true essence.

In your mind, are you merely physical?

HughBe--- You don't hear many things. The Jewish people are NOT Frijoles people or that of the overlords. They are mere members of that RACE. The enslavement of the Jewish people by their overlords is a matter of FACT whether or not YOU or anyone else likes it. There is no disrespect to call it for what it is and if it is considered disrespectful by some to speak TRUTH then to HELL with them.

Former---I realize in history that Jews were enslaved. Is this what you mean?

HughBe--- how could I mean that? I speak of today and for a long time they have had those who have lord it over them and would DARE to think that they can strip them of their identity IF they don't comply with their LYING teachings.

The Jewish people need to challenge the DECEIVERS and LIARS. Use history, the FACTS of the BIBLE etc. and LIBERATE themselves from MENTAL slavery.

Former--What is a Jewish "overlord"? I don't know this term.

HughBe--- rabbis/masters

HughBe-- Plus I accept the account of the Jewish people. THINK before you open your mouth again.

Former--You don't care about the source of your information.

HughBe--- Are you really casting ASPERSIONS on the Jewish people? That is certainly very good and RESPECTFUL of you.

Former--If I believed everyone else's RELIGIOUS beliefs, then my beliefs would not be my own, would they?

HUghBe--- beliefs noted. Share the. The real issue was YOU casting ASPERSIONS on the Jewish people. My question remains, above.

Former--I do not see this as disrespectful.

HughBe-- it is. You question their INTEGRITY. They hold it up as FACTS.

HughBe-- A lot of religious teachings are pure BS.
Is this another example of you showing respect?

Former--How about YOUR religion is BS?! What do you think of that?

HughBe--- my words are going OVER your head

HughBe-- Again, do you hold a view as to how man came into existence?

Former--3rd time - NO, I not.

HughBe--- STRANGE.

Former--I also don't hold a view as to what you had for breakfast today.

HughBe--- Strange comparison and strange position above.

HughBe --Why are some people SMARTER than others? Is it PHYSICAL traits?

Former---Combination of things.

HughBe--- tell me the combination.

Former--You have that in common with the Nazis.

HughBe-- Your country has that in common with the Nazis where whites to a large extent and for centuries felt themselves BETTER than blacks.

Former--Racism is real. No argument here.

HughBe--- People need to move away from such an approach it only breeds hostility and other negatives.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#45120 Dec 10, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is YOUR religion which you always speak about using US and WE is practically HOMOGENOUS, not so for Christianity. I could NEVER speak about Christianity as you do given the HIGHLY significane differences in the 37,000 and many hundreds of sects.
The main and major difference is that Judaism is the religion of an ethnic tribal PEOPLE (hence the oft used 'we") while Christianity is the religion of INDIVIDUALS (there is no such thing as the Christian people in an ethnic sense).

Now you can disagree with that in your head. But that is how the system is.

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