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Frijoles

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Nov 30, 2012
 
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I'm not asking you to pay for anything and I am the last Guy to build a nativity scene, so should Halloween be removed from the school?
You dont have kids, do you? It already has been removed in many schools. The born again Christians stirred up such a fuss that a lot of schools just dont want to deal.
Frijoles

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So government is an idea, a way of life. Something you believe in you certainly believe in the political process, but it doesn't exist beyond an idea, so how is that any different than believing in God and/or the Bible?
When Hughbe has sex with his donkey, he might feel guilty the next morning when he does the walk of shame from the paddock back to his house, but the actual "spiritual" consequences are impossible to verify.

But if you dont pay your taxes, or forget to shovel your front sidewalk after a snow storm, or forget to return your library book, then the potential consequences are real.
HughBe

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I ask you again, have you discussed this with her. I have. What is her opinion. Isn't her opinion the most important?
1.Are you really saying that your sister is denying that she is a Jew?

2. FACTS are far more important than a person's PERSONAL opinion. For example, you may hold the view that you are tall when the FACT is you are SHORT. The TRUTH is what counts and not YOUR personal opinion.

3. The ONLY opinion that matters is that of God and He calls her a JEW. He God made a covenant with her JEWISH forefathers and gave THEM the law. Do you understand that God gave the law to a people called JEWS? This means that their Jewish IDENTITY is NOT related to the law.
HughBe

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Nov 30, 2012
 
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Now you are just rambling.
Let us know when you have something to say.
I understand your comment but my RAMBLING questions remain.

What is genealogy about? Is it about religion?

Why are DNA tests being done on various persons? Is it about religion?

What do Jews mean when they speak about the patriarchs Abraham etc.?
HughBe

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Nov 30, 2012
 
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Relax.
Get a boyfriend.
I take that as an offer but no thanks, I love the cat.
Frijoles

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I understand your comment but my RAMBLING questions remain.
What is genealogy about? Is it about religion?
Why are DNA tests being done on various persons? Is it about religion?
What do Jews mean when they speak about the patriarchs Abraham etc.?
I called it rambling because your questions are unrelated to any conversation we were happening, or more to the point, unrelated to the notion of conversation in general.
Frijoles

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I take that as an offer but no thanks, I love the cat.
Is it love or just a fling?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DOWzZEz9HAA/T5GduGi...
HughBe

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Frijoles wrote:
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When Hughbe has sex with his donkey, he might feel guilty the next morning when he does the walk of shame from the paddock back to his house, but the actual "spiritual" consequences are impossible to verify.
But if you dont pay your taxes, or forget to shovel your front sidewalk after a snow storm, or forget to return your library book, then the potential consequences are real.
Frijoles---When Hughbe has sex with his donkey

HughBe--- I shall speak FACTUALLY and not in a joking manner. YOU and your rabbis are FAR closer to having sex with donkeys than I am.

WHY?

I CLEAVE to the commandments of God and I don't seek to TWIST and justify perverted sexual practices. Both you and a significant number of your rabbis JUSTFY homosexuality. I believe ALL of them teach that there is no command against lesbianism.

Based on these FACTS both of YOU are far closer to screwing donkeys than I am. In fact I am not even close.
HughBe

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I called it rambling because your questions are unrelated to any conversation we were happening, or more to the point, unrelated to the notion of conversation in general.
They are central to my conversation with you but I understand that your lack of capacity is the challenge that you are having.

Prove that they are unrelated to ANY conversation that we are having.
HughBe

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Is it love or just a fling?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DOWzZEz9HAA/T5GduGi...
Affection has ALWAYS been a part of it. I am not into the FLING thing.
former res

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So government is an idea, a way of life. Something you believe in you certainly believe in the political process, but it doesn't exist beyond an idea, so how is that any different than believing in God and/or the Bible?
As I said:

People, places and things related to gov't.

They certainly exist. Drive around Washington DC.

Any persons or things from the bible exist?

Again: What does gov't mean to you?

(You're getting a reputation for not answering repeated questions.)
Frijoles

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They are central to my conversation with you but I understand that your lack of capacity is the challenge that you are having.
Prove that they are unrelated to ANY conversation that we are having.
If they are central to "your" conversation than cut to the chase and state your points for ALL to read instead of using this stupid condescending pseudeo-intellectual socractic garbage inquisition.

Note - both I and MANY others have suggested to this to you before.
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Affection has ALWAYS been a part of it. I am not into the FLING thing.
Information is appreciated, but please cut me out of the loop as the middleman.
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I'm not asking you to pay for anything and I am the last Guy to build a nativity scene, so should Halloween be removed from the school?
I saw you questioning Cult of Reason over the nativity scene issue.

What was your problem with his postion?

He seemed reasonable to me.

If you want to remove Halloween, Thanksgiving or anything else, bring it up for a vote.
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HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>...YOU are far closer to screwing donkeys than I am...
But clearly, the thought of screwing a donkey has crossed your mind.

Self-loathing gay Jamaican

or

Donkey screwer

Either moniker will work
HughBe

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If they are central to "your" conversation than cut to the chase and state your points for ALL to read instead of using this stupid condescending pseudeo-intellectual socractic garbage inquisition.
Note - both I and MANY others have suggested to this to you before.
I have simplified it many many times. Your inabilty to grasp is why I shall not be pursuing it with you.

This is the point. The qustions speak to RACE. Look at each one and hopefully you will see that it is about RACE.

The Jews are a RACIAL group and currently have MANY different nationalities e.g. American, Jamaican etc. They also live in different continents e.g. Europe so you have the European Jews as opposed to the African Jews etc.

Now to my questions. They ALL deal with RACE.

What is genealogy about? Is it about religion?

Why are DNA tests being done on various persons? Is it about religion?

What do Jews mean when they speak about the patriarchs Abraham etc.?
HughBe

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But clearly, the thought of screwing a donkey has crossed your mind.
Self-loathing gay Jamaican
or
Donkey screwer
Either moniker will work
False words from a false mind reader.
Eric

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1.Are you really saying that your sister is denying that she is a Jew?
2. FACTS are far more important than a person's PERSONAL opinion. For example, you may hold the view that you are tall when the FACT is you are SHORT. The TRUTH is what counts and not YOUR personal opinion.
3. The ONLY opinion that matters is that of G-d and He calls her a JEW. He God made a covenant with her JEWISH forefathers and gave THEM the law. Do you understand that God gave the law to a people called JEWS? This means that their Jewish IDENTITY is NOT related to the law.
It's still a question of intent. Why would you question her opinion?

And, G-d gave the covenant to the Hebrews.
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Nov 30, 2012
 
Bye Frijoles,

in essence one cannot change their RACE and in this case JEWISH but they can change their RELIGION as is seen in the bible and today. Jews REJECTED God and did NOT follow the law BUT God called them Jews.

So get behind me EVIL, DECEIVING god-men and Frijoles.

Jews are JEWS and will always be.
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It's still a question of intent. Why would you question her opinion?
And, G-d gave the covenant to the Hebrews.
1.answer my question. Does she deny that she is a Jew.
2. "Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel; I made a COVENANT with your fathers in the day that I brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondmen, saying"

3. God's opinion matters NOT yours, your rabbis or hers.

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