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former res

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Nov 27, 2012
 

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HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>....A Jewish Christian is one who follows their Jewish Messiah, Jesus...
Poppycock.

If Jesus is your messiah, you are by definition, Christian.

End of story.

It's like if you enjoy showering with other men,
you are by definition, gay.

Hopefully you can come to terms with both of these issues.

I'll be here if you need moral support.
Frijoles

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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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No Rabbee I did not know and I would not be surprised given that the Israelites who left Egypt were AFRICANS. They were born in Africa and as a people lived there for hundreds of years.
It is an INCONVIENT fact for some but they will have to "CORRECT" this aspect of history.
How could they be Israelites if they were African? Pick one or the other.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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YOUR problem is that YOU embrace LIES and DECEPTION and that is why YOU don't know who is a Jewish Christian.
A Jewish Christian is one who follows their Jewish Messiah, Jesus.
All of the early Christians were JEWS. Your god-men CANNOT take away their IDENTITY. That is an UNCONDITIONAL guarantee from God Himself.
Now Pharaoh, release the first-born, Israel, and STOP enslaving their minds with your LIES and deception.
How many Jewish Christians reside on your island? Are you one of them? I had thought you were African or Israelite. Now you are confusing me. Do you like sushi? Maybe you are really Asian.

No wonder why you cant drum anymore.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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Poppycock.
If Jesus is your messiah, you are by definition, Christian.
End of story.
It's like if you enjoy showering with other men,
you are by definition, gay.
Hopefully you can come to terms with both of these issues.
I'll be here if you need moral support.
Whose definition? How does that take away from your Jewish DNA?
tell me dear.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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How could they be Israelites if they were African? Pick one or the other.
Pick one,are you American or Jewish
Eric

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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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A product of your limited understanding. This is what it means, go find out for yourself.
I love the double standard. I ask for proof (actually I asked for you to inform me because I was willing to learn) and you tell me to do it myself.

You, on the other hand, when I state that the Christians killed the indigenous population since you failed to support your original position, tell me that I must prove the negative to you.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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How many Jewish Christians reside on your island? Are you one of them? I had thought you were African or Israelite. Now you are confusing me. Do you like sushi? Maybe you are really Asian.
No wonder why you cant drum anymore.
distraction.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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distraction.
that pretty much sums you up
Frijoles

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Nov 27, 2012
 
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A state-run newspaper in China reported, accurately, that The Onion has named North Korea’s leader its Sexiest Man Alive for 2012. Left unsaid in the report, which was featured on the English-language home page of People’s Daily Online on Tuesday, is whether the editors of the Chinese Communist Party’s newspaper are in on the joke that the American publication is, well, kidding.
Frijoles

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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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Pick one,are you American or Jewish
I am Yankee
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Eric wrote:
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I love the double standard. I ask for proof (actually I asked for you to inform me because I was willing to learn) and you tell me to do it myself.
You, on the other hand, when I state that the Christians killed the indigenous population since you failed to support your original position, tell me that I must prove the negative to you.
Eric---you tell me to do it myself

HughBe--- nothing new, there.

Eric--You, on the other hand, when I state that the Christians killed the indigenous population since you failed to support your original position, tell me that I must prove the negative to you

HughBe--- I believe that those killed and history were more preoccupied with the RELIGIOUS aspects of those involved than in their race.

The research can be done.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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that pretty much sums you up
Are YOU an American or an Israeli?

Pick one,in keeping with your standard.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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Poppycock.
If Jesus is your messiah, you are by definition, Christian.
End of story.
It's like if you enjoy showering with other men,
you are by definition, gay.
Hopefully you can come to terms with both of these issues.
I'll be here if you need moral support.
Cocks man, I am waiting on you. Tell me how beliefs CANCEL a person Jewish DNA.

Tell me, did Jews existed before they got Judaism.

If Jews existed before Judaism reconcile your poppycock release with those facts of history and SCIENTIFIC reality.
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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I am Yankee
So, am I to understand that you live in America but you are NOT an American?

Should I be surprised?

Are you an Israeli?

select one.
former res

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Nov 27, 2012
 
HughBe wrote:
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Whose definition? How does that take away from your Jewish DNA?
tell me dear.
So you aren't arguing the gay thing?

That's good that you've come to terms with it.

Jewish DNA would remain, just not the relgion.

They do not believe in Christ as Messiah.

You know that.
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Cocks man, I am waiting on you. Tell me how beliefs CANCEL a person Jewish DNA.
Tell me, did Jews existed before they got Judaism.
If Jews existed before Judaism reconcile your poppycock release with those facts of history and SCIENTIFIC reality.
Do you know the difference between ones ethnic heritage
and his religion?

Two different things.

Sammy Davis Junior converted to Judaism but he sure didn't look like Woody Allen - did he?

You get it?
HughBe

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Nov 27, 2012
 
former res wrote:
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So you aren't arguing the gay thing?
That's good that you've come to terms with it.
Jewish DNA would remain, just not the relgion.
They do not believe in Christ as Messiah.
You know that.
Former---They do not believe in Christ as Messiah.

HughBe--- poppycock. You just said that the DNA would remain, so they are JEWS. Apart from that, JEWS started Christianity. Get it?

Tell me, what makes a convert to the RELIGION Judaism a JEW? Is it the DNA? What is DNA?

STOP the LIE that Jews don't believe in Christ. This is BS taught by the overlords who enslave the MINDS and MONOPOLIZE the lives of the Jewish people. Eric the Jew sister believes in Jesus, the ONLY Messiah.

Which fellow can take away her identity?
HughBe

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former res wrote:
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Do you know the difference between ones ethnic heritage
and his religion?
Two different things.
Sammy Davis Junior converted to Judaism but he sure didn't look like Woody Allen - did he?
You get it?
I know EVIL when I see it and it is EVIL to say that Jews cannot be Christians.

I KNOW that JEWS existed for hundreds of years BEFORE they Got Judaism. If you KNEW this and understood it YOU would not pursue the BS that you are talking.
HughBe

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former res wrote:
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Do you know the difference between ones ethnic heritage
and his religion?
Two different things.
Sammy Davis Junior converted to Judaism but he sure didn't look like Woody Allen - did he?
You get it?
STUDY this and UNDERSTAND that GOD Almighty called them JEWS even when they REJECTED Him and served idols. Pay attention to the very start i.e. "The word came to the JEWS"

I shall be quoting from the Complete Jewish Bible and the passages are taken from Jeremiah 44.

Bible---The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the JEWS dwelling in the land of Egypt,

HughBe--- The word came to the JEWS.

Bible--So said the Lord of Hosts, the God of ISRAEL

HughBe--- God cannot be a God of ISRAEL if Israel does not exist.

Bible--- because of their evil, which they did to provoke Me, to go to burn incense to worship OTHER gods, which they did not know,[neither did] you nor your forefathers.

HughBe--- Context is IDOLATRY

Bible--- And I sent to you ALL My servants the prophets, sending them betimes, saying: Now do not do this abominable thing which I hate.

5. But they did NOT hearken, nor did they incline their ear[s] to repent of their evil, not to burn incense to other gods.

HughBe--- God pleaded with them and the words speak of an extended period of time.

Bible-- And now, so said the Lord God of Hosts, the God of ISRAEL Why do you do this great evil to your souls, to cut off from you man and woman, child and suckling from the midst of Judah, not to leave over a remnant for yourselves,

HughBe--- Note, He is the God of ISRAEL in a context of IDOLATRY. If God did NOT regard IDOLATROUS Israel as Israel then He would not call Himself the God of Israel. Clear? surely yes.

Bible-- They were not crushed until this day, and they did not fear, and they did NOT WALK in My Law and in My statutes that I placed before you and before your forefathers.

HughBe--- Yet God called them ISRAEL and JEWS although they did NOT walk in His LAWS.

Bible--15. And ALL the men who knew that their wives burned incense to other gods and ALL the women standing [in] a great assembly, and ALL the people dwelling in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,

16. "The word that you spoke to us in the name of the Lord, we will NOT hearken to you.

HughBe--- The JEWS rejected God and His prophets but God did NOT strip them of their JEWISH IDENTITY.

Ask yourself this, how can the god-men of Judaism do differently? How can they strip you of your JEWISH identity. The fact is they cannot.

Bible--- But we will do everything that has emanated from our mouth, to burn incense to the queen of heaven and to pour libations to her, as we did, we, our forefathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem, and we were sated with bread, and we were well, and we saw no evil

HughBe--- Word of God came to these people and yet God called them JEWS.

Free yourselves. I have proven that religion does not make YOU a JEW. Here is more proof.

Israel existed long long before God gave them the LAW and so the LAW of God or god-men does NOT make you a JEW.

To Former, awake out of your sleep and world of make-belief. A Jew is a Jew regardless of what he or she believes. Any doctrine contrary to this is SATANIC and evil.
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HughBe wrote:
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The research can be done.
Then do it. Don't ask me to prove anything if that's your attitude.

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