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Voluntarist

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Now they will spend the money for their expansion and for
increasing their importance. I will give you an example. Drug
smugglers from all over the world are in contact with the US
secret agencies. These agencies do not want to eradicate
narcotics cultivation and trafficking because their importance will
be diminished. The people in the US Drug Enforcement
Department are encouraging drug trade so that they could show
performance and get millions of dollars worth of budget. General
Noriega was made a drug baron by the CIA and, in need, he was
made a scapegoat. In the same way, whether it is President Bush
or any other US president, they cannot bring Israel to justice for
its human rights abuses or to hold it accountable for such
crimes. What is this? Is it not that there exists a government
within the government in the United Sates? That secret
government must be asked as to who made the attacks.
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#43998
Nov 26, 2012
 
Ummat: The losses caused in the attacks in New York and
Washington have proved that giving an economic blow to the US
is not too difficult. US experts admit that a few more such attacks
can bring down the American economy. Why is al-Qa’idah not
targeting their economic pillars?
Usamah: I have already said that we are not hostile to the
United States. We are against the system, which makes other
nations slaves of the United States, or forces them to
mortgage their political and economic freedom. This system is
totally in control of the American Jews, whose first priority is
Israel, not the United States. It is simply that the American
people are themselves the slaves of the Jews and are forced to
live according to the principles and laws laid by them. So, the
punishment should reach Israel. In fact, it is Israel, which is
giving a blood bath to innocent Muslims and the US is not
uttering a single word.
Ummat: Why is harm not caused to the enemies of Islam through
other means, apart from the armed struggle? For instance,
inciting the Muslims to boycott Western products, banks,
shipping lines, and TV channels.
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#43999
Nov 26, 2012
 
Usamah: The first thing is that Western products could only be
boycotted when the Muslim fraternity is fully awakened and
organized. Secondly, the Muslim companies should become self-
sufficient in producing goods equal to the products of Western
companies. Economic boycott of the West is not possible unless
economic self-sufficiency is attained and substitute products are
brought out. You see that wealth is scattered all across the
Muslim world but not a single TV channel has been acquired
which can preach Islamic injunctions according to modern
requirements and attain an international influence. Muslim
traders and philanthropists should make it a point that if the
weapon of public opinion is to be used, it is to be kept in the
hand. Today’s world is of public opinion and the fates of nations
are determined through its pressure. Once the tools for building
public opinion are obtained, everything that you asked for can be
done.
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#44000
Nov 26, 2012
 
Ummat: The entire propaganda about your struggle has so far
been made by the Western media. But no information is being
received from your sources about the network of Al-Qa’idah and
its jihadi successes. Would you comment?
Usamah: In fact, the Western media is left with nothing else. It
has no other theme to survive for a long time. Then we have
many other things to do. The struggle for jihad and the successes
are for the sake of Allah and not to annoy His bondsmen. Our
silence is our real propaganda. Rejections, explanations, or
corrigendum only waste your time and through them, the enemy
wants you to engage in things which are not of use to you. These
things are pulling you away from your cause.
The Western media is unleashing such a baseless
propaganda, which make us surprise but it reflects on what is
in their hearts and gradually they themselves become
captive of this propaganda. They become afraid of it and
begin to cause harm to themselves. Terror is the most
dreaded weapon in modern age and the Western media is
mercilessly using it against its own people. It can add fear and
helplessness in the psyche of the people of Europe and the
United States. It means that what the enemies of the United
States cannot do, its media is doing that. You can understand as
to what will be the performance of the nation in a war, which
suffers from fear and helplessness.
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#44001
Nov 26, 2012
 
Interview with Osama bin Laden.
Denies his Involvement in 9/11
Full text of Pakistani paper's Sept 01 "exclusive" interview

http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-o...
Frijoles

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Voluntarist wrote:
Interview with Osama bin Laden.
Denies his Involvement in 9/11
Full text of Pakistani paper's Sept 01 "exclusive" interview
http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-o...
Yep, a credible interview
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#44009
Nov 26, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Yep, a credible interview
More credible than the fake bin laden video for sure.
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#44015
Nov 26, 2012
 
Clayton Winton wrote:
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Mexicans are Native Americans too. America is not a country. It's a continant. There are/were Native Americans from the North Pole to the South Pole and everywhere in-between. Yes, it's a "melting pot," myself a 'mutt', a 'mix' of many different peoples, Scandanavian, Native American, French, English, Jewish/Hebrew, and probably a 'part' of me is 'african' too ...:)
rabbee: generally speaking, mexicans are not pure native americans. they are mostly spanish-indian semi-native half breeds. and some with french, jewish*, dutch, or german backgrounds.
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#44017
Nov 26, 2012
 
Clayton Winton wrote:
This thread has been hijacked. It's so far-out of Topic, I'm out. Kind regards.
rabbee: for a person that has been, out of topic all their life. you certainly are, only one critter to talk. if you don't think so, just listen to the mocking - birds.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

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#44018
Nov 26, 2012
 
Voluntarist wrote:
Following is the interview in full detail:
Ummat: You have been accused of involvement in the attacks in
New York and Washington. What do you want to say about this?
If you are not involved, who might be?
I have already said that I am not involved in the 11
September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try
my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these
attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women,
children, and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam
strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children,
and other people.
Such a practice is forbidden ever in the course of a battle. It is
the United States, which is perpetrating every maltreatment on
women, children, and common people of other faiths, particularly
the followers of Islam. All that is going on in Palestine for the
last 11 months is sufficient to call the wrath of God upon the
United States and Israel.
There is also a warning for those Muslim countries, which
witnessed all these as a silent spectator. What had earlier been
done to the innocent people of Iraq, Chechnya, and Bosnia?
rabbee: and just since when, do muslems consider all non-muslems innocent?
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#44019
Nov 26, 2012
 
Voluntarist wrote:
Interview with Osama bin Laden.
Denies his Involvement in 9/11
Full text of Pakistani paper's Sept 01 "exclusive" interview
http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-o...
rabbee: well then that conflicts, with what osama himself said. shortly after, the 9/11 attack.
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Fine - I will let you ignore what is conventionally accepted as the meaning of the label native-American. We will now call them the more objectively anthropological term of "indigenous" tribalfolk of Jamaica.
Now what happened to them?
I ate all the women and the male population eventually died put.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
MUQ wrote:
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I hope the "present day Crusaders" have not there with "True God" and they are expected to do better than the earlier ones.
Just wait and watch.
It took 100 odd years to beat back the Old Crusaders with false god, let us see how many years it takes to beat the ones with true god.
The true god followers however have their own history which does not go beyond 200 odd years and for most of that time, they were following false god.
Just wait and watch.
What????

Muslims and Christians have been following their false gods for a lot more than 200 years.
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I ate all the women and the male population eventually died put.
Doing your part to elevate the conversation I see.
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http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11...

Thomas E. Ricks, the veteran defense reporter and author, said he expected his Monday morning appearance on Fox News to last about three minutes. It ended, in fact, after 90 seconds — his last sentence was a description of the network as “a wing of the Republican Party.”

After the interview, a Fox News staffer told Mr. Ricks that he had been rude.

The strange and unusually short interview segment quickly gained the attention of media critics, because criticism of Fox News is rarely aired on Fox News. Mr. Ricks said in an e-mail message afterward that he did not think he was being rude.“I thought I was being honest,” he said.“They asked my opinion, and I gave it.”

The topic was the attack on the United States’s diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya. Before being thanked and sent on his way, Mr. Ricks said he thought the controversy around the attack was “hyped, by this network especially.”

Fox News has devoted far more airtime to the events in Benghazi, on Sept. 11, than other television news networks, with numerous suggestions that the Obama administration is engaged in a cover-up. Erik Wemple of The Washington Post and the anti-Fox group Media Matters, among others, have documented the ups and downs of Fox’s reporting on the subject.
“Right now, pressure mounting on the Obama administration over its response to the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi,” the Fox anchor Jon Scott said before tossing to Mr. Ricks, a former Washington Post and Wall Street Journal reporter whose latest book,“The Generals,” was published last month.

After Mr. Ricks said that he thought that “Benghazi generally was hyped, by this network especially,” Mr. Scott homed in on the word “hype,” asking,“When you have four people dead, including the first U.S. ambassador in more than 30 years, how do you call that hype?”

Mr. Ricks answered,“How many security contractors died in Iraq? Do you know?”

Mr. Scott said he did not know.

“Nobody does, because nobody cared,” Mr. Ricks said.“We know that several hundred died, but there was never an official count done of security contractors dead in Iraq. So when I see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, I think, No. 1, I’ve covered a lot of firefights, it’s impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican Party.”

That was the end of the segment.

“Alright, Tom Ricks, thank you very much for joining us today,” Mr. Scott said before his co-anchor tossed to a commercial break.

Mr. Ricks said in his e-mail that “I think the segment was about half as long as planned.” In the pre-interview with the producer in charge of the segment, Mr. Ricks expressed his point of view that the Benghazi controversy had been over-covered,“so they shouldn’t have been surprised when they pushed back on that, and I defended my position,” he said.

The producer, whom Mr. Ricks did not name, told him beforehand that he’d also have a chance to talk about the lack of combat readiness of some Army units, a subject he wrote a blog post about last Friday.“But they seemed to lose interest in that,” he said.

Mr. Ricks added,“One reason I spoke the way I did is that the hero of my new book is George Marshall, the Army chief of staff during World War II. He got his position by speaking truth to power, and I try to follow that example.”

A Fox News spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment about whether the interview segment was cut short.
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Frijoles wrote:
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nyti mes.com/2012/11/26/guest-on-fo x-news-to-discuss-benghazi-att ack-is-given-a-quick-exit/?smi d=tw-mediadecodernyt&seid= auto
Thomas E. Ricks, the veteran defense reporter and author, said he expected his Monday morning appearance on Fox News to last about three minutes. It ended, in fact, after 90 seconds — his last sentence was a description of the network as “a wing of the Republican Party.”
After the interview, a Fox News staffer told Mr. Ricks that he had been rude.
The strange and unusually short interview segment quickly gained the attention of media critics, because criticism of Fox News is rarely aired on Fox News. Mr. Ricks said in an e-mail message afterward that he did not think he was being rude.“I thought I was being honest,” he said.“They asked my opinion, and I gave it.”
The topic was the attack on the United States’s diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya. Before being thanked and sent on his way, Mr. Ricks said he thought the controversy around the attack was “hyped, by this network especially.”
Fox News has devoted far more airtime to the events in Benghazi, on Sept. 11, than other television news networks, with numerous suggestions that the Obama administration is engaged in a cover-up. Erik Wemple of The Washington Post and the anti-Fox group Media Matters, among others, have documented the ups and downs of Fox’s reporting on the subject.
“Right now, pressure mounting on the Obama administration over its response to the deadly attack on our consulate in Benghazi,” the Fox anchor Jon Scott said before tossing to Mr. Ricks, a former Washington Post and Wall Street Journal reporter whose latest book,“The Generals,” was published last month.
After Mr. Ricks said that he thought that “Benghazi generally was hyped, by this network especially,” Mr. Scott homed in on the word “hype,” asking,“When you have four people dead, including the first U.S. ambassador in more than 30 years, how do you call that hype?”
Mr. Ricks answered,“How many security contractors died in Iraq? Do you know?”
Mr. Scott said he did not know.
“Nobody does, because nobody cared,” Mr. Ricks said.“We know that several hundred died, but there was never an official count done of security contractors dead in Iraq. So when I see this focus on what was essentially a small firefight, I think, No. 1, I’ve covered a lot of firefights, it’s impossible to figure out what happens in them sometimes. And second, I think that the emphasis on Benghazi has been extremely political, partly because Fox was operating as a wing of the Republican Party.”
That was the end of the segment.
“Alright, Tom Ricks, thank you very much for joining us today,” Mr. Scott said before his co-anchor tossed to a commercial break.
Mr. Ricks said in his e-mail that “I think the segment was about half as long as planned.” In the pre-interview with the producer in charge of the segment, Mr. Ricks expressed his point of view that the Benghazi controversy had been over-covered,“so they shouldn’t have been surprised when they pushed back on that, and I defended my position,” he said.
The producer, whom Mr. Ricks did not name, told him beforehand that he’d also have a chance to talk about the lack of combat readiness of some Army units, a subject he wrote a blog post about last Friday.“But they seemed to lose interest in that,” he said.
Mr. Ricks added,“One reason I spoke the way I did is that the hero of my new book is George Marshall, the Army chief of staff during World War II. He got his position by speaking truth to power, and I try to follow that example.”
A Fox News spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment about whether the interview segment was cut short.
rabbee: well are we now just supposed call him, shorty from now on?
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Call him whatever you want just stop driving like a maniac with no concept of the steering wheel system.
rabbee: well your rack, seems to be a pinion short of a full steering column.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Doing your part to elevate the conversation I see.
I try my very best to do so. I would have thought that you would have appreciated my raising the bar so that more critical thinking could take place.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
Frijoles wrote:
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Doing your part to elevate the conversation I see.
I should mention that your association with me is making you sharper. You still have a long way to go.

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